EPTTime Machine Tournament Winner? - Page 8
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
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OmniShoT
United States4 Posts
In his own environment, Boxer revolutionized Starcraft and virtually created the term "micro". He's almost like the Michael Vick of Starcraft (without the dog shit lol.) Many observers say his style was just a show, and with all of his crazy moves, wacky micro, and unreasonable build orders, he won vs almost any top player who confronted him | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On November 17 2007 13:22 OmniShoT wrote: Hmm, cmon guys did you ever take changes in the game itself into account? sure the mid-late game has become more essential, but have you thought that maybe the sunkens going up 100 hp, or one of the other factors might have contributed to that? No balance changes have occurred since early 2001... | ||
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
the game hasn't changed much, its the maps | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On November 17 2007 20:43 oneofthem wrote: pah, boxer revolutionized really nothing. besides starcraft as a whole? | ||
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i.play.ZERG
Canada276 Posts
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines1093 Posts
 but boxer, boxer's plays were innovative and reached new grounds far beyond everyone. if a boxer at his prime and mindset could learn and catch up, his brilliance will still think of innovative ways to defeat his people with royalty and elegance. but savior... the evil dark guy who wore black with creepy eyes that say everything going on in the game... he who beat the terran gods 1 by 1... boxer... nada... oov... ect.. not to mention the top protoss'.... his reign was ruthless and royal, sheer dominance.... but there was this chart thing i found analyzing people's reigns, and savior and oov were both off the charts, far beyond everyone else. but if you look closely at the chart, oov is 200 points above savior. savior of course gets knocked down by bisu | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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b(O.o)p
699 Posts
On November 18 2007 16:52 oneofthem wrote: this would be true if it were, true. but it is not. sadly for you...it defenitly is true! | ||
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yunicyarblejellythou
United States77 Posts
For example, what if you warped Barry Bonds to Babe Ruth's era? Well he actually would never even step foot on the field because blacks could not play professional baseball at that time. Semantical I know but the logic transitions to the current dilemma between starcraft players. Obviously future generations in a vacuum are going to be stronger, as they are going to expand on old techniques and evolve newer, superior abilities. So in the end, trying to answer this question is circuitous and therefore people will tend to vote for their favorite players. | ||
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t0wel
Kyrgyz Republic58 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On November 18 2007 12:09 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: July destroyed Bisu 1-0 while "not as his prime" and so did boxer, when bisu was at his prime, (though bisu claims he idolizes the two so maybe he threw the game or shit himself?) if they had their skill level and mind set as their dominant era, i'd have to say oov, boxer, nada, or savior. nada was a genious, and he won 3 consecutive OSL's. do you know how hard it is to do that? do you? and he has the highest apm out of the whole poll No, he didn't. | ||
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i.play.ZERG
Canada276 Posts
SOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT CONSECUTIVE MEANS! | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On November 12 2007 03:48 Aesop wrote: As I understand this poll it is about "What would happen if the most dominant players of broodwar would play in a single tournament, everyone with the abilities he had while on his peak". Still I do not see how this poll is interesting: I would assume that it is commonly assented that the level of play has risen considerably during the last years, so the average level nowadays is higher than before. Thus I do not see how a 2001 Boxer would be able to defeat a 2007 Bisu or 2006 Savior. A 2001 Boxer won with strategies that no opponents could possibly imagine (and thus counter). So It's fairly obvious that neither would Bisu nor Savior (who actually RELY on the predictability of their opponents most of the times) could beat him. Had there been strats that are still undiscovered, which there aren't. But had there been, boxer would do them. And win. (i know there are 8 more pages of comments since that one but I'm bored and I don't wanna read them). | ||
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gravity
Australia2330 Posts
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