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How do you feel about Casy's move to FOX?

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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
September 07 2007 23:33 GMT
#1
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
September 07 2007 23:48 GMT
#2
Yeah; I never thought that pros could actually get REJECTED from the Air Force team :O

I hope Casy does well
^-^
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
September 07 2007 23:51 GMT
#3
Excellent!

Getting things worked out just before the Proleague season start is the best thing that could have happened to him anyways.

Hey wtf too many votes for "I don't give a crap about Casy". No <3 T_T
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
September 07 2007 23:53 GMT
#4
good
not the ideal team i want him to go to but it saved his ass
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
September 07 2007 23:58 GMT
#5
I'm glad for him and I hope he feels he's getting better treatment in his new home.
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
TomciO
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland414 Posts
September 08 2007 00:20 GMT
#6
"I never thought that pros could actually get REJECTED from the Air Force team"

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that he've meant that the can get rejected from the Air Force, not from the Air Force team?
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
September 08 2007 00:26 GMT
#7
On September 08 2007 08:33 Wasabi wrote:
Better than moving to the Army.
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
September 08 2007 00:27 GMT
#8
Good, I guess? I dont really feel strongly either way for him; Im just glad a good player isnt tossed out to fend for himself.
Moonlight Shadow
Dahlia...
Profile Joined September 2005
United States409 Posts
September 08 2007 00:34 GMT
#9
Silver
Nada
Rock
Casy

Predicting top 4 in PL
Gaetele
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Esper760 Posts
September 08 2007 00:35 GMT
#10
WeMade/Pantech definitely needs some new Terran life in their team and Casy's just the person to bring it.
aka Ghostclaws
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
September 08 2007 01:09 GMT
#11
Sounds like a good addition to WeMade, a nice way to brush up his TvP at least a small bit and a cool bunch of people too (Rock!).
O_o
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
September 08 2007 03:21 GMT
#12
wemade needs all the capable players they can get
AUSSIESCUM
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
September 08 2007 05:05 GMT
#13
their line up is like how american basketball teams are lined up....like 3 good players and the support crew....
And btw why is nada doing worse than he has been before? like i dont see him on the top 10 on Power Rank.
im deaf
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 08 2007 07:03 GMT
#14
As good a situation as we could have hoped for I think.

Casy gets a decent pay, seems like there's a good chance he'll rededicate himself, and gets quality practice partners in every mu (alright, maybe not zerg, at least for now). He's no longer the "big dog" of the team, and should control his cockiness if he did have any.

Wemade gets another potential ace and a solid 1v1 card they sorely needed, and it also gives them a good rep with the fans as they start anew. Whether Nada helps Casy significantly is debatable, as he is known for his individualism inside the team.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
September 08 2007 07:20 GMT
#15
I'm really glad for Casy. He's able to continue his dream of being a progamer and he gets to play under the former best terran in the world. He's got to learn something.
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Ready2[ESC]
Profile Joined October 2002
Hungary1436 Posts
September 08 2007 10:19 GMT
#16
That's a really great news. Seems like things are working out for him afterall. There are times like this when the media actually helps.
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mrscheng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden658 Posts
September 08 2007 12:14 GMT
#17
On September 08 2007 08:53 Pressure wrote:
good
not the ideal team i want him to go to but it saved his ass


agree, good.
SKT Hyuk is my homeboy
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
September 08 2007 14:21 GMT
#18
On September 08 2007 08:53 Pressure wrote:
good
not the ideal team i want him to go to but it saved his ass


Precisely.

But Pantech/WeMade really needed a good player other than Nada, who is not enough by himself in PL.

gl Casy!
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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
September 08 2007 17:03 GMT
#19
Whoever voted "I don't give a crap about Casy" should die.
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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-08 19:08:54
September 08 2007 19:08 GMT
#20
I was trying to vote for this poll while I was on the Rank Icon thread.

Effin thing took like 5 clicks cause I kept running into monkeys

Voted Good. I really dont care for Casy that much, but it is better to see him find a team rather than join the Airforce just so he could play starcraft.
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
September 08 2007 19:09 GMT
#21
fuck, I didnt see the option I dont give a crap about casy. That's the one I woulda chose!
w/e
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
September 08 2007 20:42 GMT
#22
Excellent for wemade, good for casy.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 09 2007 00:28 GMT
#23
On September 09 2007 02:03 Wizard[pl] wrote:
Whoever voted anything other than"I don't give a crap about Casy" should die.


QFT
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
September 09 2007 01:37 GMT
#24
On September 09 2007 09:28 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2007 02:03 Wizard[pl] wrote:
Whoever voted anything other than"I don't give a crap about Casy" should die.


QFT


I see what you did there
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
September 09 2007 02:14 GMT
#25
Charlie
Casy is a god. don't disrespect him
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5180 Posts
September 09 2007 02:53 GMT
#26
well it certainly worked out well for casy and wemade, i just hope OGN can cope with the sour grapes they ended up with
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
September 09 2007 03:34 GMT
#27
how the hell is casy gonna get any practice in that team
vstar
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Korea (South)693 Posts
September 09 2007 17:24 GMT
#28
Feels good that he's going to a team, at least
TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway385 Posts
September 09 2007 22:59 GMT
#29
wemade is a crap sounding name :X why they change it? Something with sponsor? Pantech is much cooler!
“Approved attributes and their relation to face make every man his own jailer; this is a fundamental social constraint even though each man may like his cell.” -Goffman
Ambergris_sTarTer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines166 Posts
September 10 2007 03:15 GMT
#30
Casy? I don't know much about him...
If there would be a proleague in the Philippines, we from Ambergris will take it!
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
September 10 2007 17:16 GMT
#31
The real question is: Just how much has Sparkyz shot itself in the foot by letting Casy go?
O_o
grez_kr
Profile Joined September 2007
Korea (South)7 Posts
September 11 2007 14:33 GMT
#32
NaDa & Casy should be able to carry WeMade on their back.
Trinidad and Tobago
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
September 11 2007 14:41 GMT
#33
I had to look up who WeMade FOX was... :S

Casy . . . hmm...
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
September 11 2007 16:37 GMT
#34
Excellent!

I love Casy!! =D
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
September 12 2007 08:46 GMT
#35
Whatever...
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
September 12 2007 15:51 GMT
#36
I don't like Casy at all because he is a one-Matchup wonder. No way he deserved that OSL-win, he got lucky several times. First he already was eliminated from his group, but managed somehow to get a wildcard to the play-offs, where he only met Zerg.

That's not a Champ for me, that's one one-time wonder that will never repeat.

In my opinion he stole that OSL championchip from another player who would have more deserved it than him.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
September 12 2007 17:14 GMT
#37
Somewhat agreed with polarwolf. YellOw deserved that SL

However, his TvZ is still so fun to watch. Plus, no progamer deserves to be abused like that. Their pay is bad enough already.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
September 12 2007 18:30 GMT
#38
On September 13 2007 00:51 polarwolf wrote:
I don't like Casy at all because he is a one-Matchup wonder. No way he deserved that OSL-win, he got lucky several times. First he already was eliminated from his group, but managed somehow to get a wildcard to the play-offs, where he only met Zerg.

That's not a Champ for me, that's one one-time wonder that will never repeat.

In my opinion he stole that OSL championchip from another player who would have more deserved it than him.

Thats is bs.

Casy is not a one matchup wonder. He had very good TvT up untill the last several games where he was obviously in a slump. And i do not believe in shit like " player X didn't deserve an SL just because he got lucky." A huge part of being a champion is luck. If you win a Starleague, you ARE a champion by definition. No matter how lucky he got, he still needed to be clutch like any champion to get out of the wildcards and carry on.

Yellow btw is by far my favourite player but I don't think he would have beat Chojja. Man, Yellow, always choaking up T.T. I believe Chojja by that point beat Savior in Cyon MSL.

I'm surprised how many people on TL don't like Casy. Casy is the best Terran since Oov's domination and the most exciting player by far imo.



Sturm1Toss
Profile Joined September 2007
Finland4 Posts
September 12 2007 22:30 GMT
#39
they got good stable team there, and it saved his ass aye, btw how is that ACE team doing ?
Winners never quit & quitters never win
greatmeh
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1964 Posts
September 13 2007 04:11 GMT
#40
oh come on..... casy is teh pwnzor !
i think its excellent.. he never really belonged with OGN imo
TeHTerraNAeriAL
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada87 Posts
September 13 2007 17:46 GMT
#41
"I dont give a crap about Casy" Perfect option.
TvP TvZ PvT
polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-13 18:50:48
September 13 2007 18:43 GMT
#42
On September 13 2007 03:30 TheTyranid wrote:
I'm surprised how many people on TL don't like Casy. Casy is the best Terran since Oov's domination and the most exciting player by far imo.


post of the week. Best Terran since OOV? And you are telling me that I post BS...

I wonder why people always tell about his "great TvZ and TvT". His TvT winrate is slowly above 50%, and out of the last 13 games he won 2. Wow, great, looks really like "the best terran since OOV" R O F L - not to comment on his atrocious TvP.

For me Casy is lke the Silver of Terran. Silver has one good matchup - ZvP and luckboxed his way to a final as well, for luck he didn't win it.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
September 13 2007 19:16 GMT
#43
On September 14 2007 03:43 polarwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2007 03:30 TheTyranid wrote:
I'm surprised how many people on TL don't like Casy. Casy is the best Terran since Oov's domination and the most exciting player by far imo.


post of the week. Best Terran since OOV? And you are telling me that I post BS...

I wonder why people always tell about his "great TvZ and TvT". His TvT winrate is slowly above 50%, and out of the last 13 games he won 2. Wow, great, looks really like "the best terran since OOV" R O F L - not to comment on his atrocious TvP.

For me Casy is lke the Silver of Terran. Silver has one good matchup - ZvP and luckboxed his way to a final as well, for luck he didn't win it.


The fact that Casy's TvT has beeen this bad lately is because of his slump not because he inherently sucks at it. I suspect he would be loosing even TvZ if he played more of that mu lately. Just look at his game vs. GGPlay.
I believe that the whole conflict he had with OGN demoralized him. I just don't think he could have been focused on his game with all these problems around. Hell he was being scolded by his coach and team for a match he didn't even play in.

Now that he has transferred to Wemade he SHOULD be able to redeem himself but only if he WANTS to. I unfortunately don't cnow the details of what team rules he was breaking in OGN. If he truely was clubbing or even doing drugs and has lost his basic progamer mind, as his OGN coach said, then that was his choice. Regardless of that he is still one of the most talented terrans ever.

Now the part that you wrote that was bullshit- " he stole that OSL championship from another player". Sorry man but there is no such thing as stealing titles. There is WINNING titles.

Would you say that Bisu stole the MSL from Savior? No, he won it with perfect counter and execution. And despite the fact that I am a big Savior fan, I understood that with the kind of hubrous attitude and gameplay that Savior showed that day he did not deserve it more.
You know, STEALING a title would be going up to his team house, grabbing the title, and rewriting the tournament chart.

Casy WON the title by beating Zergman, Yellow, and Chojja. His mnm control was mesmorising in those series. I would argue that it was the best ever.

About his atrocious TvP. I personally like flawed players and IMO a player does not need to be solid in every matchup, or face every race in a starleague to be a champion.
This is like the consistent vs. champion argument, and I prefer champions over consistent players ( except YellOw).

If you read this post please tell me which Terran was better and more successful since Oov.



sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
September 14 2007 08:04 GMT
#44
On September 14 2007 04:16 TheTyranid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2007 03:43 polarwolf wrote:
On September 13 2007 03:30 TheTyranid wrote:
I'm surprised how many people on TL don't like Casy. Casy is the best Terran since Oov's domination and the most exciting player by far imo.


post of the week. Best Terran since OOV? And you are telling me that I post BS...

I wonder why people always tell about his "great TvZ and TvT". His TvT winrate is slowly above 50%, and out of the last 13 games he won 2. Wow, great, looks really like "the best terran since OOV" R O F L - not to comment on his atrocious TvP.

For me Casy is lke the Silver of Terran. Silver has one good matchup - ZvP and luckboxed his way to a final as well, for luck he didn't win it.


The fact that Casy's TvT has beeen this bad lately is because of his slump not because he inherently sucks at it. I suspect he would be loosing even TvZ if he played more of that mu lately. Just look at his game vs. GGPlay.
I believe that the whole conflict he had with OGN demoralized him. I just don't think he could have been focused on his game with all these problems around. Hell he was being scolded by his coach and team for a match he didn't even play in.

Now that he has transferred to Wemade he SHOULD be able to redeem himself but only if he WANTS to. I unfortunately don't cnow the details of what team rules he was breaking in OGN. If he truely was clubbing or even doing drugs and has lost his basic progamer mind, as his OGN coach said, then that was his choice. Regardless of that he is still one of the most talented terrans ever.

Now the part that you wrote that was bullshit- " he stole that OSL championship from another player". Sorry man but there is no such thing as stealing titles. There is WINNING titles.

Would you say that Bisu stole the MSL from Savior? No, he won it with perfect counter and execution. And despite the fact that I am a big Savior fan, I understood that with the kind of hubrous attitude and gameplay that Savior showed that day he did not deserve it more.
You know, STEALING a title would be going up to his team house, grabbing the title, and rewriting the tournament chart.

Casy WON the title by beating Zergman, Yellow, and Chojja. His mnm control was mesmorising in those series. I would argue that it was the best ever.

About his atrocious TvP. I personally like flawed players and IMO a player does not need to be solid in every matchup, or face every race in a starleague to be a champion.
This is like the consistent vs. champion argument, and I prefer champions over consistent players ( except YellOw).

If you read this post please tell me which Terran was better and more successful since Oov.




Nada
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polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
September 14 2007 14:55 GMT
#45
well, NaDa has been doing better than him and there is a gap between skill and success although they are related of course. However, Casy's win was statistical excursion in my opinion, because you cannot expect him to do well in the long run.

If i was leader of a team, there would be tons of terrans i would prefer over Casy: Midas, Hwasin, FBH, NaDa, Iris - because they are more consistent and simply more well rounded players than him.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-14 16:43:45
September 14 2007 16:43 GMT
#46
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-14 16:46:59
September 14 2007 16:44 GMT
#47

I meant new player since Oov. Nada's prime was before his so in that sence he was "before" Oov.

edit: lol can't even quote properly today.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
September 15 2007 00:07 GMT
#48
On September 14 2007 03:43 polarwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2007 03:30 TheTyranid wrote:
I'm surprised how many people on TL don't like Casy. Casy is the best Terran since Oov's domination and the most exciting player by far imo.


post of the week. Best Terran since OOV? And you are telling me that I post BS...

I wonder why people always tell about his "great TvZ and TvT". His TvT winrate is slowly above 50%, and out of the last 13 games he won 2. Wow, great, looks really like "the best terran since OOV" R O F L - not to comment on his atrocious TvP.

For me Casy is lke the Silver of Terran. Silver has one good matchup - ZvP and luckboxed his way to a final as well, for luck he didn't win it.


You don't luck box two semis. 2-3 losses to Oov and Nada respectively.
And win a OSL in 3 consecutive OSLs without having major talent.
If you can't see that, Yoohs stoopid.

The wildcard was a bit lucky, but that was 32man OSL. Take away 2007. Casy was a beast.
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Asakura
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Germany471 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-15 15:45:45
September 15 2007 15:44 GMT
#49
On September 14 2007 02:46 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote:
"I dont give a crap about Casy" Perfect option.

Well, I do give a crap (voted don't, though) but I don't care in which team he is as long as he provides good games like once versus July.
Man is disturbed not by things, but by the views he takes of them. (Epictetus)
Kassios
Profile Joined May 2006
France1424 Posts
September 16 2007 12:16 GMT
#50
that's great, lot better than ACE imo
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GMer[TOp]
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada118 Posts
September 16 2007 14:52 GMT
#51
I think in the world of Pro Gaming @ korea, being on any team and still a good player is a bonus. They need their jobs, or they'll have to live the less luxurious life. Meaning work, school, chores, etc.....
Money is everything
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
September 19 2007 16:39 GMT
#52
casy provided the most entertaining games ever in the shinhan osl against zerg.
it was the best micro i have ever seen in starcraft marines
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
September 20 2007 04:55 GMT
#53
what is FOX?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
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