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sCnInfinity
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany82 Posts
May 19 2014 19:47 GMT
#21
I don't play Balance Maps because it doesn't really help at all. Most of the time I join the maps I'm matched against gold league players. No offence, but since I'm a diamond player i do not really see that as representative for balance.

I would love the idea of using the PTRs for a little ladder system with a matchmaking system similar to the normal one.

The way it is just doesn't make any sense i.m.o..
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
May 20 2014 01:32 GMT
#22
Good lord, and yet people bitch at Blizzard for not trying things out more in balance test maps...
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Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 12:04:40
May 20 2014 12:04 GMT
#23
Blizzard could maybe organise something like a monthly PTR tournament, with a small prize. That might encourage people to play it more, if they would like that. What I think would give the best result is if GM only could access the balance maps, but I understand they have something better to than test balance all day.
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
May 22 2014 16:01 GMT
#24
On May 19 2014 16:33 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 07:50 NKexquisite wrote:
On May 17 2014 02:58 DinoMight wrote:
On May 17 2014 01:38 NKexquisite wrote:
A balance map seems pretty unnecessary for a change as trivial as the hellions transforming to hellbats w/o an upgrade that rarely ever gets used.


You have no idea what you're talking about. This allows Terran to produce Hellions before the armory is finished and tranform them into Hellbats immediately. It also makes the Hellbats arrive at the Zerg base MUCH faster because of how fast Hellions are. There will be really strong timing pushes that come with this.


I think the reason most people don't play these is that there are just too many things we do wrong anyway for the balance to "really" be a factor for us.

IMO only at the pro level can they really be **effectively testing these patches for balance.

I just see the patches as something that happens and I deal with, knowing that if I just improve my play I'll win regardless of this patch.


Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about... You don't even know what this current test patch notes are!

1) Terran can already make hellions before an Armory, the game has always been this way.

2) You still need an Armory to transform Hellions to Hellbats.


You are the one who doesn't understand, T can make helions early and the second the armory is done they can make the helions into BH. Before they actually needed an upgrade for this, if you didn't know. Thats why like the previous poster stated, the timings will be faster.


Yes. What part of that did I not cover? It rewards good hellion control by making them viable into the mid-game.
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Aber
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden332 Posts
May 24 2014 04:20 GMT
#25
On May 19 2014 16:33 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 07:50 NKexquisite wrote:
On May 17 2014 02:58 DinoMight wrote:
On May 17 2014 01:38 NKexquisite wrote:
A balance map seems pretty unnecessary for a change as trivial as the hellions transforming to hellbats w/o an upgrade that rarely ever gets used.


You have no idea what you're talking about. This allows Terran to produce Hellions before the armory is finished and tranform them into Hellbats immediately. It also makes the Hellbats arrive at the Zerg base MUCH faster because of how fast Hellions are. There will be really strong timing pushes that come with this.


I think the reason most people don't play these is that there are just too many things we do wrong anyway for the balance to "really" be a factor for us.

IMO only at the pro level can they really be **effectively testing these patches for balance.

I just see the patches as something that happens and I deal with, knowing that if I just improve my play I'll win regardless of this patch.


Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about... You don't even know what this current test patch notes are!

1) Terran can already make hellions before an Armory, the game has always been this way.

2) You still need an Armory to transform Hellions to Hellbats.


You are the one who doesn't understand, T can make helions early and the second the armory is done they can make the helions into BH. Before they actually needed an upgrade for this, if you didn't know. Thats why like the previous poster stated, the timings will be faster.

no, YOU dont understand...[insert reason]... sry i just wanted in on the "you dont understand" fun
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phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
May 25 2014 06:42 GMT
#26
On May 17 2014 02:58 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 01:38 NKexquisite wrote:
A balance map seems pretty unnecessary for a change as trivial as the hellions transforming to hellbats w/o an upgrade that rarely ever gets used.


You have no idea what you're talking about. This allows Terran to produce Hellions before the armory is finished and tranform them into Hellbats immediately. It also makes the Hellbats arrive at the Zerg base MUCH faster because of how fast Hellions are. There will be really strong timing pushes that come with this.


I think the reason most people don't play these is that there are just too many things we do wrong anyway for the balance to "really" be a factor for us.

IMO only at the pro level can they really be **effectively testing these patches for balance.

I just see the patches as something that happens and I deal with, knowing that if I just improve my play I'll win regardless of this patch.


Hmmmm that's an interesting idea. Build two factories, build a bunch of helions, armory, drive over, transform, win. I'm going to try that right now.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 26 2014 00:30 GMT
#27
brilliant poll
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robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
May 26 2014 21:10 GMT
#28
I rarely even play SC2
phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
May 27 2014 01:56 GMT
#29
On May 27 2014 06:10 robih wrote:
I rarely even play SC2

WHY WOULD YOU WASTE YOUR LIFE LIKE THAT???
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shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
May 27 2014 16:22 GMT
#30
We played the test maps all the time, when we still did custom games. But anybody of my dudes plays starcraft anymore - no fun paying test maps against yourself (or strangers)
Gamlet
Profile Joined December 2012
Ukraine336 Posts
May 28 2014 12:33 GMT
#31
I tested only tempest buff.but only 1 map (
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
June 01 2014 21:06 GMT
#32
Im very curious about reading which changes might happen, and the test maps do their job...but

Unless something totally changes my playstyle, why should a gold/plat player like me bother to play balance testers? Even the pros need months to ajust to some patches! I let them figure out the eventual new styles and copy them.

I like to try hipster maps, though, nowdays Foxtrot Labs and Kamala Park, which should be in for ladder next season.
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Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
June 04 2014 07:52 GMT
#33
On May 20 2014 21:04 Anacreor wrote:
Blizzard could maybe organise something like a monthly PTR tournament, with a small prize. That might encourage people to play it more, if they would like that. What I think would give the best result is if GM only could access the balance maps, but I understand they have something better to than test balance all day.

...through a new ingame tournament system! FTW!
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Hot_Ice
Profile Joined January 2013
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-07 09:35:41
June 07 2014 09:34 GMT
#34
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aeligos
Profile Joined January 2013
United States172 Posts
June 07 2014 20:15 GMT
#35
No but I would really like to map test.

How can I opt in?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 10 2014 07:00 GMT
#36
I think I tested it once or twice.

However, as I very rarely play Starcraft as is and haven't played the test maps for years, I voted no.
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JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
June 11 2014 22:27 GMT
#37
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TheSayo182
Profile Joined September 2012
Italy243 Posts
June 13 2014 15:53 GMT
#38
i wonder the rusult if the question was: Do you play starcraft 2?
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OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
June 17 2014 16:23 GMT
#39
Wait, there's a balance patch that allows hellions to transform into hellbats the moment the armory is finished? I have to look at the date and time stamp of these posts because, correct me if i'm wrong, that's exactly how hellbats used to work. They added the upgrade to the tech lab of the factory at some point. Looks like they are reverting it??
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
June 17 2014 16:24 GMT
#40
On June 14 2014 00:53 TheSayo182 wrote:
i wonder the rusult if the question was: Do you play starcraft 2?


I'd be interested in that TL poll
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
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