• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:35
CEST 17:35
KST 00:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 213ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes37Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 HomeStory Cup 29 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8454 users

Do you play Blizzard's Balance Test maps? - Page 2

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
sCnInfinity
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany82 Posts
May 19 2014 19:47 GMT
#21
I don't play Balance Maps because it doesn't really help at all. Most of the time I join the maps I'm matched against gold league players. No offence, but since I'm a diamond player i do not really see that as representative for balance.

I would love the idea of using the PTRs for a little ladder system with a matchmaking system similar to the normal one.

The way it is just doesn't make any sense i.m.o..
Long live the King Of Wings
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
May 20 2014 01:32 GMT
#22
Good lord, and yet people bitch at Blizzard for not trying things out more in balance test maps...
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 12:04:40
May 20 2014 12:04 GMT
#23
Blizzard could maybe organise something like a monthly PTR tournament, with a small prize. That might encourage people to play it more, if they would like that. What I think would give the best result is if GM only could access the balance maps, but I understand they have something better to than test balance all day.
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
May 22 2014 16:01 GMT
#24
On May 19 2014 16:33 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 07:50 NKexquisite wrote:
On May 17 2014 02:58 DinoMight wrote:
On May 17 2014 01:38 NKexquisite wrote:
A balance map seems pretty unnecessary for a change as trivial as the hellions transforming to hellbats w/o an upgrade that rarely ever gets used.


You have no idea what you're talking about. This allows Terran to produce Hellions before the armory is finished and tranform them into Hellbats immediately. It also makes the Hellbats arrive at the Zerg base MUCH faster because of how fast Hellions are. There will be really strong timing pushes that come with this.


I think the reason most people don't play these is that there are just too many things we do wrong anyway for the balance to "really" be a factor for us.

IMO only at the pro level can they really be **effectively testing these patches for balance.

I just see the patches as something that happens and I deal with, knowing that if I just improve my play I'll win regardless of this patch.


Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about... You don't even know what this current test patch notes are!

1) Terran can already make hellions before an Armory, the game has always been this way.

2) You still need an Armory to transform Hellions to Hellbats.


You are the one who doesn't understand, T can make helions early and the second the armory is done they can make the helions into BH. Before they actually needed an upgrade for this, if you didn't know. Thats why like the previous poster stated, the timings will be faster.


Yes. What part of that did I not cover? It rewards good hellion control by making them viable into the mid-game.
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
Aber
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden332 Posts
May 24 2014 04:20 GMT
#25
On May 19 2014 16:33 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 07:50 NKexquisite wrote:
On May 17 2014 02:58 DinoMight wrote:
On May 17 2014 01:38 NKexquisite wrote:
A balance map seems pretty unnecessary for a change as trivial as the hellions transforming to hellbats w/o an upgrade that rarely ever gets used.


You have no idea what you're talking about. This allows Terran to produce Hellions before the armory is finished and tranform them into Hellbats immediately. It also makes the Hellbats arrive at the Zerg base MUCH faster because of how fast Hellions are. There will be really strong timing pushes that come with this.


I think the reason most people don't play these is that there are just too many things we do wrong anyway for the balance to "really" be a factor for us.

IMO only at the pro level can they really be **effectively testing these patches for balance.

I just see the patches as something that happens and I deal with, knowing that if I just improve my play I'll win regardless of this patch.


Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about... You don't even know what this current test patch notes are!

1) Terran can already make hellions before an Armory, the game has always been this way.

2) You still need an Armory to transform Hellions to Hellbats.


You are the one who doesn't understand, T can make helions early and the second the armory is done they can make the helions into BH. Before they actually needed an upgrade for this, if you didn't know. Thats why like the previous poster stated, the timings will be faster.

no, YOU dont understand...[insert reason]... sry i just wanted in on the "you dont understand" fun
Trying is the first step towards failure
phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
May 25 2014 06:42 GMT
#26
On May 17 2014 02:58 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 01:38 NKexquisite wrote:
A balance map seems pretty unnecessary for a change as trivial as the hellions transforming to hellbats w/o an upgrade that rarely ever gets used.


You have no idea what you're talking about. This allows Terran to produce Hellions before the armory is finished and tranform them into Hellbats immediately. It also makes the Hellbats arrive at the Zerg base MUCH faster because of how fast Hellions are. There will be really strong timing pushes that come with this.


I think the reason most people don't play these is that there are just too many things we do wrong anyway for the balance to "really" be a factor for us.

IMO only at the pro level can they really be **effectively testing these patches for balance.

I just see the patches as something that happens and I deal with, knowing that if I just improve my play I'll win regardless of this patch.


Hmmmm that's an interesting idea. Build two factories, build a bunch of helions, armory, drive over, transform, win. I'm going to try that right now.
To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own - Lincoln
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 26 2014 00:30 GMT
#27
brilliant poll
starleague forever
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
May 26 2014 21:10 GMT
#28
I rarely even play SC2
phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
May 27 2014 01:56 GMT
#29
On May 27 2014 06:10 robih wrote:
I rarely even play SC2

WHY WOULD YOU WASTE YOUR LIFE LIKE THAT???
To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own - Lincoln
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany614 Posts
May 27 2014 16:22 GMT
#30
We played the test maps all the time, when we still did custom games. But anybody of my dudes plays starcraft anymore - no fun paying test maps against yourself (or strangers)
Gamlet
Profile Joined December 2012
Ukraine336 Posts
May 28 2014 12:33 GMT
#31
I tested only tempest buff.but only 1 map (
Kiev
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1963 Posts
June 01 2014 21:06 GMT
#32
Im very curious about reading which changes might happen, and the test maps do their job...but

Unless something totally changes my playstyle, why should a gold/plat player like me bother to play balance testers? Even the pros need months to ajust to some patches! I let them figure out the eventual new styles and copy them.

I like to try hipster maps, though, nowdays Foxtrot Labs and Kamala Park, which should be in for ladder next season.
Buff the siegetank
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
June 04 2014 07:52 GMT
#33
On May 20 2014 21:04 Anacreor wrote:
Blizzard could maybe organise something like a monthly PTR tournament, with a small prize. That might encourage people to play it more, if they would like that. What I think would give the best result is if GM only could access the balance maps, but I understand they have something better to than test balance all day.

...through a new ingame tournament system! FTW!
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
Hot_Ice
Profile Joined January 2013
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-07 09:35:41
June 07 2014 09:34 GMT
#34
--- Nuked ---
aeligos
Profile Joined January 2013
United States172 Posts
June 07 2014 20:15 GMT
#35
No but I would really like to map test.

How can I opt in?
libera te tvtemet ex inferis A.'.A.'.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 10 2014 07:00 GMT
#36
I think I tested it once or twice.

However, as I very rarely play Starcraft as is and haven't played the test maps for years, I voted no.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
June 11 2014 22:27 GMT
#37
--- Nuked ---
TheSayo182
Profile Joined September 2012
Italy243 Posts
June 13 2014 15:53 GMT
#38
i wonder the rusult if the question was: Do you play starcraft 2?
"Remember: Probes & Pylons and when behind Dark Shrine!"
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
June 17 2014 16:23 GMT
#39
Wait, there's a balance patch that allows hellions to transform into hellbats the moment the armory is finished? I have to look at the date and time stamp of these posts because, correct me if i'm wrong, that's exactly how hellbats used to work. They added the upgrade to the tech lab of the factory at some point. Looks like they are reverting it??
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
June 17 2014 16:24 GMT
#40
On June 14 2014 00:53 TheSayo182 wrote:
i wonder the rusult if the question was: Do you play starcraft 2?


I'd be interested in that TL poll
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:00
XXIX - Group Stage Day 2
TaKeTV3662
ComeBackTV 923
TaKeSeN 403
SteadfastSC356
IndyStarCraft 263
Rex144
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 356
IndyStarCraft 263
Rex 144
SHIN 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1886
EffOrt 1459
Hyuk 945
Soma 500
actioN 290
ZerO 254
hero 197
Sharp 108
Dewaltoss 94
JYJ 84
[ Show more ]
Pusan 48
Aegong 47
ToSsGirL 43
sorry 35
NaDa 23
Terrorterran 21
yabsab 20
Rock 19
IntoTheRainbow 17
Yoon 16
Bale 14
Noble 11
Dota 2
qojqva1706
Dendi1615
XaKoH 458
420jenkins356
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_49
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor222
Other Games
singsing2983
B2W.Neo1228
DeMusliM392
XcaliburYe278
Hui .228
KnowMe109
QueenE63
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 1127
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream156
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 69
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 136
• EnkiAlexander 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3151
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 25m
HomeStory Cup
19h 25m
OSC
21h 25m
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.