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Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
December 16 2012 00:23 GMT
#101
I think its up to players and teams to decide when they take breaks. Its not the events responsibility.
Graphix
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States208 Posts
December 16 2012 01:47 GMT
#102
i would always like to be able to watch esports but the players need a break
~Jaedong Forever~
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
December 16 2012 03:05 GMT
#103
I think a lot of people in this thread don't understand what an off-season would entail. Players would still be streaming, and it's not a rest period. It's a time in which player transactions would take place, and various things like this.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
aifranchise
Profile Joined June 2011
United States83 Posts
December 16 2012 03:26 GMT
#104
This doesn't relate to an off season but only thing i find annoying about tourneys is when they are all packed in one month...November was annoying as hell. Way too many big tournaments, and they all took place in the final month of my semester. They need to spread out the events better.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
December 16 2012 04:12 GMT
#105
I would like a better organized / more structured format, but the problem is that
1: too many parties want a piece of pie
2: pros need enter a ton of tournaments to sustain living condition
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
S8on
Profile Joined August 2011
United States11 Posts
December 16 2012 09:56 GMT
#106
Esports, Starcraft especially is imo very comparable to tennis in that it is individuals competing. Team leagues=Davis Cup sort of thing. One difference though is that Tennis has a governing ATP distributing points, organizing events, and it is centered around 4 major "Grand Slam" tournaments which receive much more coverage within a month or so of play. Also some matches may occur at the same times for tennis and because there are so many more viewers and fans so they can still do this to shorten the tournament span. Another difference is that the rest days between matches is to rest the body and there is little preparation for the next match. On the other hand, for tournaments such as GSL, there is usually a week of time to prepare in between rounds.

Having an offseason allows the gamer to have more time in between "big tournaments" to rest, refine their mechanics and practice new builds. It also gives viewers some time to "rest" knowing they aren't missing out on anything big and to "hype up" the bigger tournaments when they arrive. However to achieve this "big tournaments" (GSL for the most part atm) first need to be better defined and the number of tournaments needs to be reduced. This also probably decreases revenue however which is a huge factor. Also do the tournaments want to reduce preparation time and make the game based more on quickly planned strategies combined with stronger mechanics or do they want it to be a game of a well thought out strategies and builds which a combination of decent mechanics.

I'm in favor of less tournaments,
don't get hit
wsamunra
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2 Posts
December 16 2012 09:57 GMT
#107
no the players dont get paid that much for an off season I mean look quantic game went out cause of financial reasons.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 11:31:22
December 16 2012 11:31 GMT
#108
in the break there would be other tournaments so ....
its like sport, in winter i watch indoor soccer or futsal
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markrevival
Profile Joined January 2012
United States222 Posts
December 16 2012 12:09 GMT
#109
i think players should take breaks, like Mvp has recently done, but there are a thousand players and lots of successful tournaments. I loved watching IEM Singapore for example, where we saw Sting take down favorites to reach the final against an even more improbable and dramatic run from Grubby. Smaller tournaments have lots of charm and make champions out of players that aren't going to win the Majors.

This is why a unified system with Blizzard in charge would be so great. Have tournaments actually mean more in points and in rankings without the dictatorship of KeSPA and MLG. You can actually have people ranked #1 in the world and create Roger Federer like dynasties. It would be amazing
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
December 16 2012 12:39 GMT
#110
Players need a break but this is their living , the gas majority of tournaments = potentially more money for them that is a good thing . Players don't need to play every single tournament , if they need a break take it but its always nice that there is alot of tournaments to come back to . Having a break between tournaments makes it so that players have less opportunity to make a splash more opportunities mean more growth . Players should be allocatin their time more effectively and not every player goes to try in every tournament , if a player is doing that then they are asking for trouble and a decline in their play a , if every 3 months ( random time frame) there was this major tournament they could attend then they have less ways to make it in the scene cause they get 1 chance every once in awhile , thats less motivation cause if they lose then they get nothing . With all these tournaments even if they lose in GSL they get to win in other things and it keeps them playing
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
December 16 2012 12:45 GMT
#111
On December 16 2012 10:47 Graphix wrote:
i would always like to be able to watch esports but the players need a break

Then they should take them , it's not like they are forced to play every single tournament. No one is asking that of them , but having a break between "Thee tournament" the one that allows them to make it in the scene is good . Like gsl once every 2 months but having others to fill the gaps is a good thing .
People act like the players are obligated to play every one like they have no choice , which isn't a real expectation and no one expects that of them .
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
December 16 2012 12:54 GMT
#112
On December 16 2012 18:56 S8on wrote:
Esports, Starcraft especially is imo very comparable to tennis in that it is individuals competing. Team leagues=Davis Cup sort of thing. One difference though is that Tennis has a governing ATP distributing points, organizing events, and it is centered around 4 major "Grand Slam" tournaments which receive much more coverage within a month or so of play. Also some matches may occur at the same times for tennis and because there are so many more viewers and fans so they can still do this to shorten the tournament span. Another difference is that the rest days between matches is to rest the body and there is little preparation for the next match. On the other hand, for tournaments such as GSL, there is usually a week of time to prepare in between rounds.

Having an offseason allows the gamer to have more time in between "big tournaments" to rest, refine their mechanics and practice new builds. It also gives viewers some time to "rest" knowing they aren't missing out on anything big and to "hype up" the bigger tournaments when they arrive. However to achieve this "big tournaments" (GSL for the most part atm) first need to be better defined and the number of tournaments needs to be reduced. This also probably decreases revenue however which is a huge factor. Also do the tournaments want to reduce preparation time and make the game based more on quickly planned strategies combined with stronger mechanics or do they want it to be a game of a well thought out strategies and builds which a combination of decent mechanics.

I'm in favor of less tournaments,

Viewers wanted esports to get big but now they are unhappy about it ? There are alot of tournaments because the scene is growing , Lessing tournaments means players won't get as many chances to make it big , you get things like amazing players who practice all the time and don't win anything , thats so disheartening for the players and the players having many tournaments to go to gives them options . Players play the game for the love of it and the money take the money out and they have only love left more many people this is their life less money means less reason to go pro and less tAlent enters the scene .
Down time between major tournaments is good but having something tangible is motivation which is what we want the players to have . Also down time doesnt mean they will improve or practice e , some people need constant opprotunities to shine .
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
JazzNL
Profile Joined March 2012
182 Posts
December 16 2012 13:07 GMT
#113
Silliest question ever.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
December 16 2012 13:07 GMT
#114
Yeah, I would like the major tournaments to slow down a bit, and let some smaller tournaments maybe fill in the gaps, as others have been saying.

Would help add some prestige back to some of the events.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
TheNut
Profile Joined September 2012
United Kingdom12 Posts
December 16 2012 14:15 GMT
#115
I'm glad that a lot of the major tournaments are getting together to better organise the schedule. Whilst I bloody love watching the top pros battle it out at massive tournaments... one every weekend, across different time zones, often occupying 3 days is just too much. And that is just from a fans point of view! It was noticable seeing some of the top pros looking really fatigued towards the end of november from all the travelling and constant tournament play.

Players also need moer time to practise themselves and prepare for tournaments to try out new strats, and to counter opponents they will be facing in their groups. Also hype building up to the tournaments helps a lot as well. for me, last motnh especially, there was just waaaaay too many tournaments... Even though I really enjoyed them.
Dujek
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom276 Posts
December 16 2012 15:02 GMT
#116
An off season would be great because it means that all the players / casters are home. TB/Day9/Apollo etc would all have more time to put out videos and players would stream a lot more. We would still get content just a different, more relaxed type of content.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
December 16 2012 15:44 GMT
#117
On December 14 2012 07:48 red4ce wrote:
Fans need a break? No, players need the break.


Seriously lol, how could fans need a break lol? You can read a very well written article summarizing the events of most tournaments.... you don't have to watch ESPORTS 14 hours a day on the weekend to be a fan. Get outside!
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Donger
Profile Joined October 2009
United States147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 17:24:46
December 16 2012 17:23 GMT
#118
On December 17 2012 00:44 Pufftrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 07:48 red4ce wrote:
Fans need a break? No, players need the break.


Seriously lol, how could fans need a break lol? You can read a very well written article summarizing the events of most tournaments.... you don't have to watch ESPORTS 14 hours a day on the weekend to be a fan. Get outside!


It's more about the feeling of falling behind in the news. As this doesn't happen for everyone, but for me when I fall behind as fast as I do in SC2 it's just too overwhelming to get back into it.

So yes. I do read articles summarizing tournaments, and look at Liquidbet to see which individual player has won, and watch replays of good games. HOWEVER! Doing all three of those things do not interest sponsors. It's running commercials between matches that they are able to get their brand out there. The only thing that comes close is watching replays, but I just skip to the start of the game.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
December 16 2012 17:26 GMT
#119
I think it comes down to this: big tournaments like GSL, MLG, IPL, etc. need breaks. But the less popular/smaller events can go between. So I'm yes and no here.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 16 2012 17:52 GMT
#120
Unified breaks work better within geographically smaller community - at most a country (eg: South Korea). But SC2 currently is truly global and I don't think having a global break would ever gonna work well for all fans equally.
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