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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27151 Posts
April 07 2006 09:44 GMT
#1
The last poll sucked, so maybe this oe is better.

I think that this MSL has the chance to be simply amazing, as the 4 groups carry some of the newest and oldest monsters of their race. Lots of representation from all three races, it should be exciting.
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Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
April 07 2006 09:55 GMT
#2
Iloveoov is a machine and then you got 2 great P's. I feel sorry for Nal_rA.
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
April 07 2006 09:57 GMT
#3
On April 07 2006 18:55 Mickey[aCt] wrote:
Iloveoov is a machine and then you got 2 great P's. I feel sorry for Nal_rA.

At Nal_rA's current state I wouldn't be saying that quite yet. I have a really good feeling that Nal_rA will be winning this group.
Retired BW Noob
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 07 2006 09:59 GMT
#4
Iloveoov vs Nal_rA, Stork vs Pusan
=O

and i'm going to go ahead and put group A (ChoJJa vs GoRush, Boxer vs Terato) as second most difficult
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dream-_-
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1857 Posts
April 07 2006 10:04 GMT
#5
well this one is prety obvious

new school protoss ftw
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-07 10:55:24
April 07 2006 10:53 GMT
#6
Difficulty, from hardest to easiest:


Iloveoov vs Nal_rA, Stork vs Pusan

ChoJJa vs GoRush, Boxer vs Terato

IPXZerg vs Rainbow, Reach vs Kingdom

Mumyung vs Yooi, Midas vs Rumble


Midas should advance from group 4 easily, along with probably Mumyung.

And does anyone else notice that rA is never placed in a relatively easy group in whatever league he's in?
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
April 07 2006 11:11 GMT
#7
rA's group is rough. Every player in that group is very skilled, and on fire. Very hard to predict, though I think rA will be able to pull this off.

I don't know much about Rumble, saw him play in some 2v2's for SKT, and he was absolutely SUPERB. Don't know how that translates to in 1v1 play, but he made it this far, so he's gotta be pretty decent. Still, that group looks the weakest. The other three groups are very tough. Looks to be a good MSL.
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Pseudo_Utopia
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada827 Posts
April 07 2006 11:45 GMT
#8
Gonna produce an awesome set of games that's for sure.
I want to see the creative toss take out the monster terran that would be so oldschool
Retired SchiSm[LighT]
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
April 07 2006 13:01 GMT
#9
Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to the MSL more than the OSL, but I hope the maps are better this season. Sauron for instance is boring and crappish.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
April 07 2006 13:22 GMT
#10
oov vs ra, pusan vs stork
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DN2perfectionGM
Profile Joined August 2004
United States233 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-07 13:40:54
April 07 2006 13:40 GMT
#11
Did u guys see this really neat clip: "Best 10 Starcraft Plays in 2004?" - its korean btw

#1 play was Nal_Ra's hallucination of arbs and then charge through the anti air and goli and recall PERFECTLY against GoodFriend in some island map.
Go Nal_rA!!! One more of those classic moments in this MSL! LINK
JHU
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
April 07 2006 14:50 GMT
#12
hahah oov is gonna have 1 helluva time in his group
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
April 07 2006 16:21 GMT
#13
Iloveoov vs Nal_rA, Stork vs Pusan is the hardest group. Since it is bo1, Nal_rA will beat oov with some weird shit like triple nexus before gateway :D.
Climbing walls of an endless circle
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
April 07 2006 16:24 GMT
#14
On April 07 2006 19:04 dream-_- wrote:
well this one is prety obvious

ya no offense mani but some of these polls are quite rhetorical

although i guess the important thing is that new polls are being put up at all
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Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
April 07 2006 17:53 GMT
#15
The group of death would include:

SNES
Chuck Norris
Sushi
Reach
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
KimmoL
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway256 Posts
April 07 2006 17:55 GMT
#16
Iloveoov vs Nal_rA, Stork vs Pusan
very nice group xD
Caution
Profile Joined September 2004
2059 Posts
April 07 2006 18:22 GMT
#17
oov ra stork and pusan
breathe
Profile Joined February 2006
Poland426 Posts
April 07 2006 20:22 GMT
#18
omfg, the first 3 groups are pure death, while the fourth has weaker players (if we can use that term in the MSL -.-)
however, I voted on the group with oov, it's the toughest.
Zeto
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2290 Posts
April 07 2006 21:05 GMT
#19
3 great protoss in one group :/

hope nal_ra can beat oov, i don't like oov. and i think stork is one of the worst PvPers.

nal_ra vs. pusan would be pretty sweet. micro protoss vs. macro protoss, ouch.
hay hay mayé, todos los negros tomamos maté!
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
April 07 2006 23:16 GMT
#20
Ehh..Stork is one of the best PvPers.
NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
April 07 2006 23:45 GMT
#21
i love to see all the pvp. i have a new appreciation for pvp - i have completely changed my style of playing pvp recently. gonna be eager to see the different approaches and tactics of reach, kingdom, ra, pusan, stork, and rainbow
miNi
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Korea (South)2010 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-08 01:46:12
April 08 2006 01:45 GMT
#22
Argh, too much SKT1!
7?
-_-;;
zergc1
Profile Joined October 2004
Zimbabwe961 Posts
April 08 2006 02:11 GMT
#23
When these games will be played?
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
April 08 2006 02:36 GMT
#24
Group D is theoritically hard...

For the players in it... However, I voted group A
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
April 08 2006 07:19 GMT
#25
I think Yooi is gonna own Mumyung considering he owned July in the qualifier, and Mumyungs worst MU by far is ZvT. Then Yooi could also beat Midas TvT in the winner game, because Midas' worst is TvT, and I believe that's one of Yoois best(or his TvZ). Midas&Yooi probably advance.

I think Kingdom&Savior will advance in the other group.
Then I think Oov and Stork will advance from their group.
Last group I think Boxer&Gorush will advance.

Hardest group is obviously the oov group, followed by saviors group, then boxers.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
Vo-
Profile Joined November 2004
United States435 Posts
April 08 2006 07:24 GMT
#26
This is many toss.
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
April 08 2006 19:33 GMT
#27
gogo nal_ra cheese the noob
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
XoR~
Profile Joined April 2006
Switzerland453 Posts
April 08 2006 23:52 GMT
#28
What race is Terato?

N1 Boxer has 2 Zergs in his group
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infecteddna
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Slovenia243 Posts
April 09 2006 00:56 GMT
#29
Damn, this one looks really sweetly unpredictable. Midas should own Rumble though, and Mumyung Yooi (probably). I love Kingdom; Reach hasn't been in top form lately, but he's still Reach. IPXZerg is one helluva zerg, and pvz ain't a cakewalk. But I have flashbacks of simultaneously exploding scarabs doing mayhem yet, there might be a light at the end of the.. nah, too obvious. ChoJJa's been doing good in his zvzs lately while Gorush isn't exactly on fire. Too close to call though. Boxer is fucking Boxer, still this is Terato, so all bets are off. Oov vs Nal_ra, ... uaggh... just imagining their gosu faces is too much. Stork vs Pusan; if my life were on the line I'd bet on Pusan, but damn... this is gonna be great ^^
GeneralCash
Profile Joined December 2005
Croatia346 Posts
April 09 2006 01:40 GMT
#30
On April 08 2006 08:16 tfeign wrote:
Ehh..Stork is one of the best PvPers.


nope. but pusan is currently in the top 3 pvp players. he should take this easy.

as for pvp, i think reach vs kingdom will be a very sexy game.
Into.Love
Profile Joined January 2006
China172 Posts
April 09 2006 03:03 GMT
#31
Reach vs Kingdom and oov vs nal_ra should produce some really awesome games I hope
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
April 09 2006 14:40 GMT
#32
i cant wait for these games to be played.
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
April 09 2006 15:40 GMT
#33
Group C is fucking awesome.
Group A is awesome.
Group B is nice.
Group D is blah
At least put Midas with a toss.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
April 09 2006 20:02 GMT
#34
On April 09 2006 08:52 XoR~ wrote:
What race is Terato?


Protoss.

Well Stork ain't TOP3 PvP, he was kinda underrated, then suddenly became overrated. But Pusan should beat him. And Kingdom vs Reach, _could_ be sexy game, but PvP there can be cheese and stuff which end it quickly.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
ForrestGump
Profile Joined March 2006
Ukraine3 Posts
April 10 2006 06:51 GMT
#35
LOL
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
April 10 2006 22:23 GMT
#36
glad to see the polls have been updated pretty frequently recently. Good job mani
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
April 11 2006 03:04 GMT
#37
On April 10 2006 05:02 iNsaNe- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2006 08:52 XoR~ wrote:
What race is Terato?


Protoss.

Well Stork ain't TOP3 PvP, he was kinda underrated, then suddenly became overrated. But Pusan should beat him. And Kingdom vs Reach, _could_ be sexy game, but PvP there can be cheese and stuff which end it quickly.

My take on things as well. What makes Reach the absolute sexiness in PvP is his very forceful and agressive micro, which doesn't detract from his unit and probe production. He kan keep up an offensive push and pull tactic better than anyone I've ever seen. Of course, the downside is that the attacker will have less units initially, and sometimes he gets to eager and misses the timing and pushes too far when the opponents reinforcements arrive.

I'm looking forward to Reach vs Kingdom a lot. Both known as masters in this MU.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
April 11 2006 06:11 GMT
#38
MUMYUNG FTW

My favorite player, even though he's not great .

But yeah, what kind of question is this? Oov, Ra, Stork and Pusan? Is there any choice here? Too bad we don't have a zerg in that group, though =/.
I live in perpetual fear of terrorists and studio gangsters
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
April 11 2006 14:12 GMT
#39
Kang Meen Hwaeeteeng!
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