EPTEvent re-broadcasts on the TL calendar?
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tree.hugger
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Huge O
Great Britain95 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
It's great to wake up and see an EU rebroadcast which I missed the previous evening. | ||
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ZergX
France436 Posts
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DD_The_Shmey
United States22 Posts
If we start seeing rebroadcasts of events which ended weeks or months ago, however, I could see myself get excited upon seeing an unexpected MLG or whatever, only to be let down when I realize how old it is. | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
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JackDragon
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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CeriseCherries
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Graham
Canada1259 Posts
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acgFork
Canada397 Posts
I see there aren't many topics to poll the community these days.. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
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KainiT
Austria392 Posts
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FunnelC4kes
Ireland462 Posts
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
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Sandro
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On September 13 2011 04:24 Huge O wrote: Could we have a specialised calendar with such options and only listing certain events? Or is that too complex? I would like one too, as BW events are taking up too much space. | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
Like another poster mentioned as long as the rebroadcast is of an event in the last 24/48 hours and not week or month ago, I don't really see a major problem with it. Just helping out people in other timezones. | ||
Chill
Calgary25970 Posts
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kldfg
Germany59 Posts
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
On September 13 2011 06:54 Chill wrote: I can't even follow IPL anymore because it's always rebroadcasting something. I have no idea what round the real tournament is actually in. I voted "I don't mind them." but I agree with Chill about this. | ||
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Thrill
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
also..they dont hurt anyone by being there.. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
Also I've always thought that VODs were the future of rebroadcasts, so that doesn't make any sense, feels like we're devolving here. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38152 Posts
It's great to have a set event time on a rebroadcast because you either know when to tune in for the start to watch it all, or you can make an educated guess as to what kind of time a game you're interested in checking out might be aired. What is an issue is the rebroadcast event not being removed when the stream just starts looping over for a while after the initial broadcast ends, which leads to massive confusion for people tuning in at any old time after something has been shown multiple times already. Maybe rebroadcasts could be set as a special type of event with a required (nearest hour) run length based off their previous nights live cast. Then after that time has passed events are automatically removed from the tracker. It would ensure that after 1 run through events are actually removed from the big event broadcast list to avoid confusion etc#? | ||
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JayDee_
548 Posts
I've lost count of how many times I've clicked an IPL link of a broadcast I've already seen. My interest in the "event" has waned due to the over-saturation and confusion. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
I'd rather that it doesn't appear to be honest, but don't mind it either way. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On September 13 2011 06:54 Chill wrote: I can't even follow IPL anymore because it's always rebroadcasting something. I have no idea what round the real tournament is actually in. I agree with this point, but I think that a lot of this falls on IPL. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like they put all of the matches into a hat and come out with a handful of random ones to play for the day. There should be some continuity; even in the re-broadcasts. | ||
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pavement ist rad
United States226 Posts
On September 13 2011 07:46 Mr Showtime wrote: I agree with this point, but I think that a lot of this falls on IPL. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like they put all of the matches into a hat and come out with a handful of random ones to play for the day. There should be some continuity; even in the re-broadcasts. Agree. IPL always seems to have this problem where I can't tell who's playing, going to play, or what stage of the tournament they're in | ||
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choopakabra
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TORTOISE
United States515 Posts
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Craton
United States17235 Posts
I would personally think anything that runs weekly or less to not be a big event except for the finals (assuming that said finals was big to begin with). Things like an MLG restream being listed I'd be fine with, but something like a NESL/IPL/GSL restream of some average low round game is just excessive. | ||
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On September 13 2011 08:34 choopakabra wrote: Add some prefix or icon. Either this, or a way to preference the calendar in profile settings to disable those listings. It has never bothered me, but I can see how it would annoy some people. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13804 Posts
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Skoop
United States214 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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FuzzyAzurik
Denmark39 Posts
On September 13 2011 07:17 Proko wrote: I voted "I don't mind them." but I agree with Chill about this. I voted "I find them usefull" But i see a point in Chill's statement, maybe some more clarification in the description or title of the stream like (IPL rebroadcast week X) or something like that. | ||
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covote
United States86 Posts
GSL- start date and format MLG Dreamhack NASL IGN proleague etc. I had a hell of a time finding out what GSL was doing for september | ||
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
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Klaent
Sweden374 Posts
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eyeEX
United States64 Posts
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Philip2110
Scotland798 Posts
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
It's way too much otherwise. What's sustainable? | ||
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spoolinoveryou
United States503 Posts
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sephirotharg
United States91 Posts
On September 13 2011 04:24 Huge O wrote: Could we have a specialised calendar with such options and only listing certain events? Or is that too complex? If it's possible I'd love such a feature! I tend to stay on top of the things I like, so mostly I don't need to watch re-broadcasts, but once in a while I do miss something and having the ability to see when it's on again would be awesome. On a tangentially related note, the BIG event tracker is wonderful! The only quibble I have is that it's not always kept up-to-date. For example, the GIGABYTE Stars-War event had no link to the VoDs, despite the VoDs being on the same page as the tournament thread itself. A minor annoyance at best, though. For ESPORTS! | ||
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
The IPL tends to rebroadcast everything all the time, so it's a bit excessive. IMO, for now, find an individual solution for IGN rebroadcasts. Don't let them spoil it for everyone else. If more rebroadcasts become a big problem, then take a broader approach to the problem. | ||
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KingFool
Canada428 Posts
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Eboceixa
Belgium60 Posts
So much confusing when you want to look at live matches... | ||
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boyle
United States134 Posts
On September 13 2011 06:54 Chill wrote: I can't even follow IPL anymore because it's always rebroadcasting something. I have no idea what round the real tournament is actually in. i agree with chill but i voted, "I don't mind them being there" | ||
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Bromazepam
820 Posts
On September 13 2011 06:03 xtfftc wrote: I think they should only be present for events that do not offer free VODs. This is a very valid point. I'd add to it: "as long as the free VODs are already available at the time of the re-broadcast". | ||
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Champi
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Corak
Germany187 Posts
But a [Re] or [RB] in front would help. Sometimes I get confused :D | ||
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nepeta
1872 Posts
On September 13 2011 15:53 boyle wrote: i agree with chill but i voted, "I don't mind them being there" IPL regurgitating stuff has little to do with the separate US and EU broadcasts, 'our' European rerun is as confusing as the original I suppose. Can't see how TL should know how they plan their stuff, it's something the IPL production crew should sort out for itsself. Their way of broadcasting things is most peculiar however. | ||
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Deadstrider
Netherlands258 Posts
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Joeeigel
United Kingdom328 Posts
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andytb
United Kingdom180 Posts
IPL 24/7 Broadcasting of repeats: Not useful If you can find some way to define each, that would be ideal. | ||
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stevorino
957 Posts
On September 13 2011 06:54 Chill wrote: I can't even follow IPL anymore because it's always rebroadcasting something. I have no idea what round the real tournament is actually in. pretty much this. if it isn't live, i don't care. but i would be fine with ONE re-broadcast, makes sense i think | ||
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SlimeBagly
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DailYLeet
Germany827 Posts
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m0ck
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robin19999
Netherlands246 Posts
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PhothreeniX
Canada161 Posts
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
WIth big leagues like NASL and IPL we have roughly 10 hour content each day for just this one special event. Also the re-broadcast is a little confusing esp. with IPL. Often I dont know in which round a match is. Is this an Important game or is it not? So I am currently thinking of IPL as some sort of showmatches at the moment. In addition to that it also messes with the EU weekly cup culture we have. Those weekly cups we have here on the EU servers are a REALLY REALLY good thing to have. Not only can we see EU's top players compete on a daily basis for our entertainment but it's also good to increase the player's skill level quite a bit because of this constantly competing enviroment. But with the listing of those re-broadcasts, not only the viewers but also the (mostly casual) player numbers go down quite a bit. Which means, that sponsors don't get that high numbers anymore and are thinking twice before they start to sponsor another weekly cup series. That decreases the prize pool, the amount of Pro's participating etc. etc. Where do we draw the line? Is it okay to re-broadcast Events as well that are beeing played on EU prime time 8 hours later for US prime time (and vice versa) )and justify this by not releasing the VODs? TL;DR Re-Broadcasts are fine, but should not be listed anymore. One offical event is enough. People who want to watch the rebroadcasts should watch them on the event's website. Listing of re-broadcasts are messing with other events too much. | ||
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Furycrab
Canada456 Posts
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Akill_
United Kingdom80 Posts
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
edit: i have to agree with furycab, the only channel that REALLY should do rebroadcast is GomTV, but heh i guess they want to send tickets. | ||
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Neino
Norway295 Posts
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
Helps with events that happen and you didn't get to see. | ||
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ABagOfFritos
Canada454 Posts
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Cenja
Sweden498 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
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CScythe
Canada810 Posts
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Cathasaigh
United States285 Posts
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TurbineBlade
United States117 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
It should at the very least be clearly listed as a rebroadcast on the main page. Every time | ||
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Stijx
United States804 Posts
On September 13 2011 06:54 Chill wrote: I can't even follow IPL anymore because it's always rebroadcasting something. I have no idea what round the real tournament is actually in. Same with me, would love a rebroadcast calender. | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
You know, have little option box [X] GSL Events [X] NASL [X] IPL [ ] IPL Restreams It would require quite a bit of work to get it up (and more to maintain it), but I think it would be a very nice addition. | ||
Alex.IGN
United States1050 Posts
On September 13 2011 06:54 Chill wrote: I can't even follow IPL anymore because it's always rebroadcasting something. I have no idea what round the real tournament is actually in. We start at 5 PM PDT with new content every time. | ||
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
(♥ all you guys btw best website on the interwebs) | ||
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Keep 'em, thanks! | ||
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LoCaD
Germany1634 Posts
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cari-kira
Germany655 Posts
everytime you look at the tournament nav, you go "woah, ipl running!" only to be disappointed 5 secs later, when its the xx. rebroadcast of a game you have seen 2 times before. put that in the "featured streams"-list and its ok, but the tournament tab should be for things that are new. | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On September 13 2011 05:45 acgFork wrote: I think it's great but... I see there aren't many topics to poll the community these days.. This is actually a really important one. When we polled staff it was like 95% hate it - very important to get community feedback on this. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On September 13 2011 10:57 Dental Floss wrote: Color-code the calendar to make everyone happy. That way you can quickly determine what is live and what is a recording of a previous event. This is a good idea. | ||
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
On September 14 2011 14:25 Kennigit wrote: This is actually a really important one. When we polled staff it was like 95% hate it - very important to get community feedback on this. thats interesting . I would have guessed something like a 70 hate 30 love thing, but not that one sided. makes me appreciate TL staff even more | ||
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Zelun
Australia41 Posts
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Fatze
Germany1342 Posts
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Cokefreak
Finland8094 Posts
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ticktack
United Arab Emirates874 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
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ComaDose
Canada10352 Posts
IPL is always rebroadcasting so yeah... like chill said on the first page. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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JayDee_
548 Posts
On September 14 2011 14:25 Kennigit wrote: This is actually a really important one. When we polled staff it was like 95% hate it - very important to get community feedback on this. Has the staff discussed enforcing tagging rebroadcasts or making a separate rebroadcast tab? It seems like most people agree that would be a good idea. | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On September 14 2011 00:46 Special Endrey wrote: I dont like the listing of re-broadcasts at all. You don't really know what has already been re-broadcasted and what did not. In addition to that, if people are really interested in a certain league/tournament, it should not a problem at all to check out the website where the event is hosted/streamed on. WIth big leagues like NASL and IPL we have roughly 10 hour content each day for just this one special event. Also the re-broadcast is a little confusing esp. with IPL. Often I dont know in which round a match is. Is this an Important game or is it not? So I am currently thinking of IPL as some sort of showmatches at the moment. In addition to that it also messes with the EU weekly cup culture we have. Those weekly cups we have here on the EU servers are a REALLY REALLY good thing to have. Not only can we see EU's top players compete on a daily basis for our entertainment but it's also good to increase the player's skill level quite a bit because of this constantly competing enviroment. But with the listing of those re-broadcasts, not only the viewers but also the (mostly casual) player numbers go down quite a bit. Which means, that sponsors don't get that high numbers anymore and are thinking twice before they start to sponsor another weekly cup series. That decreases the prize pool, the amount of Pro's participating etc. etc. Where do we draw the line? Is it okay to re-broadcast Events as well that are beeing played on EU prime time 8 hours later for US prime time (and vice versa) )and justify this by not releasing the VODs? TL;DR Re-Broadcasts are fine, but should not be listed anymore. One offical event is enough. People who want to watch the rebroadcasts should watch them on the event's website. Listing of re-broadcasts are messing with other events too much. nice post. I totally agree with this | ||
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Paladia
802 Posts
It is also listed under "ON AIR" which is completely untrue and false. This is one of the most annoying things with TL altogether. ON AIR should only list live things. If someone does want to watch a rebroadcast, why not just visit the site for it? | ||
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EzPz
Scotland64 Posts
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joebang
United States33 Posts
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
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Torqq
Finland21 Posts
On September 13 2011 08:51 Soluhwin wrote: Either this, or a way to preference the calendar in profile settings to disable those listings. I agree, we need to have something to identify they're rebroadcasts or the option not to show them. | ||
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ZMilla
United States2 Posts
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
Or just split ON AIR into two sections ON AIR and REBROADCAST(or similar), might be even color-coded on top of that. I would definitely prefer spatial differentiation over just color-based one. EDIT:typo | ||
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Leny_1
Poland45 Posts
Splitting ON AIR section to on air and rebroadcast sounds like good idea. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On September 13 2011 06:54 Chill wrote: I can't even follow IPL anymore because it's always rebroadcasting something. I have no idea what round the real tournament is actually in. But that's IPL's fault, not that of the system. I wish IPL would simply label their TL event calendar entries appropriately. Having regional rebroadcasts appear on the calendar is super useful. 99% of the criticism seems to come because of IPL. I don't think the mishandling of a single event is enough to shake up the whole system. That said, I suppose there's nothing wrong with a colour distinction for live events and rebroadcasts. | ||
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
On September 15 2011 09:50 Bobster wrote: But that's IPL's fault, not that of the system. I wish IPL would simply label their TL event calendar entries appropriately. Having regional rebroadcasts appear on the calendar is super useful. 99% of the criticism seems to come because of IPL. I don't think the mishandling of a single event is enough to shake up the whole system. That said, I suppose there's nothing wrong with a colour distinction for live events and rebroadcasts. Well, you already said what I wanted to say^^ | ||
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rickybobby
United States405 Posts
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
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BarneyEX
Malaysia98 Posts
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danson
United States689 Posts
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Fluffboll
Sweden516 Posts
On September 13 2011 04:23 tree.hugger wrote: Super useful. Keep 'em. Agreed, I would miss a lot of tournaments if it wasn't listed in Calender when they rebroadcast | ||
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TheTurk
United States732 Posts
On September 13 2011 06:54 Chill wrote: I can't even follow IPL anymore because it's always rebroadcasting something. I have no idea what round the real tournament is actually in. Def agreed. | ||
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CaptCanada
United States1 Post
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Edit: 'Event' section should be live events (EU or other re-broadcast ok, since they're marked as such) 'Live' section should be currently running streams 'Rerun' section could be created for streams running old stuff | ||
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Maintain
United States22 Posts
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