On August 02 2011 15:55 AngryPanda wrote:
After watching Boxer's hour long TvT match and DRG lose. I just was so sick of watching T's open with the same if not exact BO for to many games in a row. Then realizing that it was all T games after DRG lost i just turned it off.

This. Also turned it off at that point. Tuned back in a bit later, but siege lines everywhere and turned it off again. Had nothing to do with the Koreans, only to do with their choice of race

TvT is IMO the most boring matchup in all of starcraft. ZvZ is sooooo intense and quite the opposite of TvT and PvP evolved to something more macroish since the warp gate nerf.

(also - first post on TL, woop woop!)

UnholyRai

720 Posts

August 02 2011 12:30 GMT

#83

the fact is if the final was say, huk vs mvp, viewers would have been 10x as interested.

The problem is we see korean vs korean every week on gsl.

we love the drama of forgeiners taking on the korean overlords.

also, so many t v ts did not help things.

Zanno

United States1484 Posts

August 02 2011 12:37 GMT

#84

people don't like tvt?

i love tvt so as you can imagine mlg was totally okay with me

Dutchmv

Netherlands4 Posts

August 02 2011 12:38 GMT

#85

The only problem I had was that almost every time I tuned in, it was a tvt. The only protoss that I've seen playing was whitera against select. It was probably just bad luck but still anoying.

TVUmK

United States91 Posts

August 02 2011 12:58 GMT

#86

The fact that everything was TvT hurt my interest more than the fact that they were korean.

Ouga

Finland645 Posts

August 02 2011 13:02 GMT

#87

I stopped watching when it was 5T 1Z left. I was tired and it seemed there would be too much tvt for my taste ahead. If one of the terrans left was foreign, I prolly still would've skipped.

All-in-all it has started to seem like there's clear cap between koreans and foreign. I'd be happy to cheer for foreigners here, since there already is the real championship in Korea (GSL). I don't think it's weird to have part of own interest in seeing "someone else" winning for a change. Slowly starting to agree on why NASL tried to keep koreans down in the first place - it might sometimes eat the interest a bit when it turns out there's nobody who has chance against koreans who turn up.

I guess bigger problem was that we didn't see almost any foreigners on sunday. I'd have wished to see idra v nani and similar sets from red stream, but of course tight schedule doesn't really allow all good to be shown.

I hope bomber/mvp will be the only invited terrans for raleigh

Likelihood for koreans continueing to smash faces is high, so would be nice to try to balance the top players' races by inviting best of protoss/zergs in future too. DRG was great invite this time though.

Arlenius

United Kingdom49 Posts

August 02 2011 13:12 GMT

#88

Korean v Korean is fine, but for me once all the protoss players are out i start losing interest as i play protoss. the only other players that i really like are idra and jinro, and they didn't get too far either

Disquiet

Australia628 Posts

August 02 2011 13:18 GMT

#89

I don't get the hate for tvt. I think its the second best matchup after zvt.

Faggatron

United Kingdom65 Posts

August 02 2011 13:18 GMT

#90

Not really, I mean I was still very interested, just if there had been a non-korea I'd have been ultra pumped. Was ok though, still had boxer to root for.

Razakel

Ireland466 Posts

August 02 2011 13:22 GMT

#91

I really enjoyed watching it, but I'd appreciate in future if MLG could diversify the races of the Korean players they invite. DRG was spectacular, he was a treat to watch, but even his excellent ZvT couldn't break every Terran.

I realise this time might have been a bit different, since MMA had to be invited back to defend his title as reigning champion, but next time I'd really like to see 2 Protoss, one Zerg and one Terran (obviously MVP since he won). Or something like that, anything but three Terrans, even as a Terran player it gets hard to watch TvT after a while.

So far at least one the Korean invitees has won an MLG (MMA @ Columbus and MVP @ Anaheim). So inviting three Korean Terrans massively stacks the odds that a Terran will win in the end.

Great tournament and I look forward to the next MLG

Big_Pete1999

United States22 Posts

August 02 2011 13:28 GMT

#92

Korean vs Korean didn't bother me at all. I expect the best players to be Korean. What made me disinterested and turn off the MLG is when all the remaining players were Terran. I don't like watching mirror match after mirror match after mirror match. It gets boring and just makes me scream "TERRAN IS OP"

SecondSandwich

United States319 Posts

August 02 2011 13:35 GMT

#93

I was very excited to watch the games, as I knew they would be of mind-blowingly high caliber, but I did feel a little bit of a "loss of interest" in a certain way. I think it is kind of deflating once the "can one of the foreigners really do it?!?" story line dies--especially since it would be so awesome to see a foreigner get placed into code s.

TL;DR: Didn't lose interest in the game play, but a little disappointed at the loss of the foreigner-underdog storyline.

Monzterg

Sweden257 Posts

August 02 2011 13:41 GMT

#94

I think most people like to watch one race in particular, over the other two.
Even if that doesnt mean that they like to watch one race exclusivly, it does mean that they only get "hyped" if the race they like to watch is represented.

So in my opinion its very understandable that about 2/3 of the people watching lose interest once their race is not represented any longer in the top 6.

Even a mirror finals can turn alot of people away at times unless there are some interesting personalities clashing.

As for the nationalities I don't think it matters that much but I understand if some people have trouble geting the same connection to personalities that doesnt speak their language. They simply cant make the same impression as easilly (not to say its impossible, there definitly are some koreans that have huge fanbases due to their personality outside of korea.).

Gogo White-Ra!!

TzTz

Germany511 Posts

August 02 2011 13:44 GMT

#95

It did affect it in a positive way...

Pred8oar

Germany281 Posts

August 02 2011 13:47 GMT

#96

I dont care where the players are from as long as they are good, but the finals being at nighttime AND a crap ton of tvt´s made me go to sleep instead of watching.

Synwave

United States2803 Posts

August 02 2011 13:49 GMT

#97

It is fun to sometimes root for a nationality or a personal favorite player to do well but I mostly just want to see the best players play so I didn't mind how it turned out.

Art_of_Kill

Zaire1232 Posts

August 02 2011 13:50 GMT

#98

ah real reason isnt in the pool: "No, but the last few games were between 2-5am, so i didnt watch like 90% of the tournament"

i chose "No, but so many TvTs did ", since TvT's are boring to watch, was pretty interesting to see GSL finals with a zvz, since i never saw zvz before