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Rybaia
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy213 Posts
August 02 2011 08:32 GMT
#61
I didn't watch the Grand Final just because Boxer wasn't in it.
But to be honest watching that many TvT was boring even if it's probably my 3rd favourite match up after PvT and PvZ.
durron597
Profile Joined December 2010
United States12 Posts
August 02 2011 08:35 GMT
#62
Terran is too imba. There, I said it.
Denia1
Profile Joined January 2011
148 Posts
August 02 2011 08:57 GMT
#63
If the overall number of viewers dropped somewhere during the top 8 it might have very well been coincidence. Remember it was around 01:00-03:00 AM in Europe(depending on when one lives) when the finals started on Monday at the time. Personally I went to sleep after DRG got taken out in the loser's bracket. Given that the later stages of most tournaments have had a lot of TvT lately I'd rather have some sleep. Especially after seeing Boxer vs. Rain game 1.
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
August 02 2011 09:04 GMT
#64
I really wanted the foreigners to finally rise up and beat the Koreans, but even so, I'd much rather watch the best players regardless of nationality. Maybe next time!
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nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
August 02 2011 09:04 GMT
#65
It didn't bother me but it would be a nice change for a foreigner to get into the finals of a tournament in north america versus a korea
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AugustDreams
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia127 Posts
August 02 2011 09:12 GMT
#66
I don't know why it being Korean vs Korean would affect it at all :S. I watched because they are amazing players.
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Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
August 02 2011 09:13 GMT
#67
terran vs terran kinda sucks. I guess u always see the best race most frequently anyways.
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Websblob
Profile Joined June 2011
6 Posts
August 02 2011 09:15 GMT
#68
I stopped caring once Boxer was eliminated. If the final match had a foreigner in it I would have been interested but it did not so I just skipped the match.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
August 02 2011 09:43 GMT
#69
On August 02 2011 18:13 Sina92 wrote:
terran vs terran kinda sucks. I guess u always see the best race most frequently anyways.



To be honest it had more to do with the fact that there were like 4(?) Korean terrans. So it was more like the korean domination and not terran domination. If you invite Nestea, DRG, Losira and July i can almost guarantee a ZvZ final

I thought it was a little annoying with all the koreans. I dont mind too much, but a HuK vs IdrA final would've been better.
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hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
August 02 2011 10:11 GMT
#70
Its not the Korean matter, but the number of TvT games that kinda caused a decline in interest for me.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
August 02 2011 10:11 GMT
#71
Affect your interest and only want to see the best could mean the same thing.^^
SmokeyNagata
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States111 Posts
August 02 2011 10:41 GMT
#72
We should be honored that the Koreans came all the way over here to play.

I'm surprised people say that Koreans have no "storyline."
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
August 02 2011 10:44 GMT
#73
very bad poll imo, "affect your interest" can be positive and the opposite of it.

I'm definetly affected by it in a negative way
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Phisk
Profile Joined June 2010
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 10:54:28
August 02 2011 10:53 GMT
#74
It definitely affected my interest. A foreigner vs korean finals would have been far more interesting. The amount of TvTs was pretty boring as well, especially since everyone started to use a ton of blue flame hellions and ended up trading SCVs and never getting a proper economy up.

The organizers obviously can't control who goes to the finals, but inviting so many high level korean Terrans (most of them former champions) and only 1-2 mid level Zergs and Protoss (mostly code A and no code players) was pretty bad.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 02 2011 10:54 GMT
#75
i tuned out after drg lost to mvp for four reasons:

1 - it being on the west coast meant it was hugely late already
2 - all protoss out by that stage and just the one zerg left
3 - while tvt is the most watchable mirror, it's still a mirror
4 - i don't care about these players apart from boxer and to a lesser extent mvp for his stars connections, as i don't watch gsl
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BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
August 02 2011 11:08 GMT
#76
I don't want to cause a good old shitfight, so I will keep it brief.

I simply fear for "foreigner" pros, because the Koreans coming here makes it harder for them to put food on the table, which takes away the legitimacy for those people in NA considering the possibility of making pro gaming their career.

TvT was an issue too, albeit smaller. I really enjoyed watching DRG, however even if he made it to the final, the pain would have only been dulled a little.
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Evilmystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation266 Posts
August 02 2011 11:27 GMT
#77
Turned out after DRG lost to MMA, it was late night here already and with only TvT left was not worth staying.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
August 02 2011 11:39 GMT
#78
A little bit. But it isn't just because it was korean vs korean. If it was random American vs random European I wouldn't have cared any more either, what I did miss from the ro6 and onward was some of my favorite players that I like to watch, and therefore I wasn't as interested in the final games.

Boxers series had me glued to the screen though.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
August 02 2011 11:47 GMT
#79
"No, I just want to watch the best players "

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DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
August 02 2011 11:56 GMT
#80
TvT only did a bit.

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