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EndOfTime88
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria259 Posts
August 02 2011 17:27 GMT
#121
The fact they were both Korean, and Terran affected me a bit. I wasn't too excited for them. It was still okay to watch.

I enjoy watching the GSL/GSTL for the skill and competition, but look forward to foreigner events to watch foreigners duke it out.

I can only hope that the more Koreans we have attend foreigner events that the skill gap between the two can shrink.
"Time is what we want most,but what we use worst."-William Penn
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
August 02 2011 17:30 GMT
#122
I just want to see good games.. although a non-mirror final would have been more entertaining, though.. I watched the winner/losers and finals with my brother, he thought they were great.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
hellraiser1110
Profile Joined November 2010
Croatia70 Posts
August 02 2011 17:39 GMT
#123
I was hoping to BoxeR vs. White-Ra finals. That was the dream finals for me at that event. Too much TvT's imo.
NASAmoose
Profile Joined May 2011
United States231 Posts
August 02 2011 17:50 GMT
#124
If I only wanted to watch a SC2 tournament for the sake of watching the best players, I would've bought a GomTV subscription by now. Nuff said. Also, TvT meh
Doof
Profile Joined October 2010
United States204 Posts
August 02 2011 18:12 GMT
#125
Of course it produces the best games if the best players are playing, but it's just no where near as fun if there's not a Foreigner underdog taking on the Korean machine.

Koreans are so OP.
Every day should be a good day to die
SpaceJam
Profile Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
August 02 2011 18:13 GMT
#126
After reading that article about Dustin Browder and HotS, so many Terrans is starting to make more sense. SlayerS is to Terran as oGs is to Protoss
spirit desire~
blackwolf
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 18:16:58
August 02 2011 18:15 GMT
#127
I voted yes very much, not because i have anything against watching the koreans play, i dont, but because i find it very sad that the koreans are dominating the scene so hard, and taking all the top placement in foreigner tournaments. I am afraid this may hurt the foreign scene quite badly when the foreign players realise that they have no chance of winning a tournament if the koreans are attending it.
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
August 02 2011 18:19 GMT
#128
i had noone to cheer for x(
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 02 2011 18:19 GMT
#129
Of course not, and the TvTs were quite entertaining too. Especially Boxer-MMA was epic.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
August 02 2011 18:35 GMT
#130
Out of all mirror matchups I like TvT the most: because of all the various styles each player can employ. It can be highly defensive in mech vs mech, highly mobile with bio play, and can also be extremely volatile with hellions in the mix.

I wish other mirror matchups can be as exciting: at least nestea showed us some "new builds" in GSL finals that deviates from the normal "roach spam timing".

However, watching the same matchup (TvT) over and over and over again can be a little bit repetitive: especially for those whose main race is not Terran.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 18:40:15
August 02 2011 18:38 GMT
#131
I stopped watching about 40 minutes through the first BoxeR vs. Rain game. Quite boring IMHO. Should probably qualify this. I thought that there were opportunities for both players to attack sooner and they just choose not to. That continued for 20-30 minutes before I became bored and switched off the stream. I'm not saying anyone played poorly, I just didn't enjoy it.
Never make a hydralisk.
Skydancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy249 Posts
August 02 2011 18:39 GMT
#132
Best players never sucks!

Almost only TvT really sucks!
MMA | MC | Dear
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
August 02 2011 18:40 GMT
#133
i turned the stream off after huk and naniwa got knocked out. i dont want to watch TvT, its boring. the boxer v rain match was really boring too, i dont know why people were raving about that game, it was just 2 terrans turtling forever
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Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 18:44:45
August 02 2011 18:44 GMT
#134
On August 03 2011 03:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
i turned the stream off after huk and naniwa got knocked out. i dont want to watch TvT, its boring. the boxer v rain match was really boring too, i dont know why people were raving about that game, it was just 2 terrans turtling forever


Would you have watched the finals if they were Jinro vs. BoxeR?
/commercial
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 02 2011 18:46 GMT
#135
I agree with too many TvT
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Pengu
Profile Joined April 2011
England226 Posts
August 02 2011 18:47 GMT
#136
I 90% of the time route for the underdog in all sports unless its someone I respect or from the UK. (often this is the underdog anyway )

While I like korean play I must admit the language barriers I don't enjoy, the interviews all seem the same almost structured approach with mostly the same format. Well apart from what boxer said before going against MMA.

I think the KvK is actually sometimes dull, the background story can almost be removed since often there isn't one. Where as foreigner vs korean there is always massive amounts of stuff going on and huge amounts of hype, Idra vs MC last MLG, could not ask for a better show.

I think its also partly me as I don't follow that much GSL only watch a little bit now and again. So players like DRG (who people seem to over hype by coming out and saying he is going to win and all the blah blah blah, needless to say I am like who the fuck is that :S :S :S :S Is he in code S, No, is he in Code A, no :S How the hell would I know him :S (not 100% what code he is in, but you get my drift)

Overall as long as there is a limited number of koreans it is a good thing 1 Per group is perfect in my eyes ( maybe also bring some underrated crap ones just one MLG for old times pre korean sake.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
August 02 2011 18:57 GMT
#137
Also tuned out when Boxer lost.
Couldn't care less if MvP or MMA would have won the final :p.
Watching the best players is great but giving all foreign prizemoney to koreans will just make the foreign Scene fall more and more behind
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 02 2011 18:57 GMT
#138
Best players, wherever and whenever. It was a bit of a downer it were so many TvTs, but im quite sure that will work itself out.

There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 02 2011 18:58 GMT
#139
-.- Sigh all the TvT weren't great, even the good ones (sigh the middle 30 minutes of Boxer Rain G1), but it was better than watching some lower quality games.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 19:02:42
August 02 2011 18:59 GMT
#140
What the fuck does Nationality matter? This whole topic/question seems racist IMHO. This topic is resurrected at every major tourney involving Koreans.

Does it matter if the players are from the Ukraine, Sweden, Korea, USA, Canada or fucking New Guinea for that matter?

NOOOOOOOOOOO! IT DOESNT MATTER FOR SHIT.


edit: And if you think TvT is boring, then just admit to yourself that Starcraft probably isn't for you. It's not for everyone. Games take a while to start up and the first action is often the last action. Thus is the nature of the game. If one isn't tuned in to the subtleties of the players builds, a SC game could be seen as a long waiting game.
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