EPTThorzain hwaiting!
TSL3 Finals: Naniwa or Thorzain?
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
Thorzain hwaiting! | ||
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NightmareX
New Zealand31 Posts
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Ysorigin
United States82 Posts
I voted naniwa though >.> | ||
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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Graham
Canada1259 Posts
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Phisk
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Edit: I'm not sure if the poll is about who you want to win or who you'll think will win, but vote nani with both heart and head! | ||
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Protocon
United States255 Posts
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pinkranger15
Philippines1597 Posts
(--o^_^)--o (x__x) щ(°д°щ) | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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monx
Canada1400 Posts
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
Thorzain fighting!!!  | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
I voted nani. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
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tensionz
United States130 Posts
Reasoning: Something new, someone new, Terran brother!, Naniwa already beasted too many people.  | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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Gamjadori
Japan131 Posts
Having Thorzain win would make for one of the best tournament stories of all time, so I'm really hoping he can make a miracle one last time. | ||
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dLG)Bananenbaum
Germany62 Posts
THORZAIN! | ||
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BlueyD
Canada437 Posts
I picked Naniwa, but I'm rooting for Thorzain even though I'm a Protoss player. This is going to be awesome. | ||
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ayababa
Australia347 Posts
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
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notmytroll
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Thune
Austria129 Posts
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Z3kk
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stevorino
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human_ko
Russian Federation676 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Thors are slightly nerfed but that change is minimal, protoss build orders are completely changed by the WG and sentry timing change though. Having to play as toss just a few days after the patch completely stinks so that might give thorzain a chance. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
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disciple
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BertiliO
Sweden134 Posts
On May 11 2011 17:31 disciple wrote: T-Zain be pimpin Haha T-Zain - epic. I really think T-Zain deserves to win this tournament considering how hard his path has been. Naniwa is a beast though, Nani will probably win. | ||
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Mahs
Netherlands171 Posts
On May 11 2011 17:12 Markwerf wrote: Nani is by far the better player but the patch really comes at an unfortunate timing for him. Thors are slightly nerfed but that change is minimal, protoss build orders are completely changed by the WG and sentry timing change though. Having to play as toss just a few days after the patch completely stinks so that might give thorzain a chance. A change in build orders doesn't just affect the player who is executing that build. These changes will have Thorzain in a more awekward position because he will not be familiar with his opponents timings. I wouldn't call that an advantage per se. | ||
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
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xeR
Germany19 Posts
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Kuzmorgo
Hungary1058 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:00 travis wrote: i think thorzain underdog again -.- and that is exactly why he will win But i dont think he's underdog. He practiced a lot of vP for MC obviously, i don't think he forgot it all Also, he must be feeling very very confident due to his success so far. I just hope he won't be too nervous due to the large stage. (Although i dunno, how large it is actually?)EDIT: typos | ||
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phyK
Germany73 Posts
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Bensio
United Kingdom621 Posts
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anatem
Romania1369 Posts
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durza
United States667 Posts
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Sokh
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
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ridonkulous
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
all that nani can do to win is 4 gate THATS a thing he is really good at maybe he will play 1 game standard like he tried vs hasu but then he will realize that he is too bad for that and 4 gate to easy victory Edit: Oh wait i hope this is played after the patch so thorzain will win easily | ||
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Belano
Sweden657 Posts
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Ezekyle
Australia607 Posts
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Lynda
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Chrill
Sweden91 Posts
On May 11 2011 21:13 sVnteen wrote: thorzain will take it all that nani can do to win is 4 gate THATS a thing he is really good at maybe he will play 1 game standard like he tried vs hasu but then he will realize that he is too bad for that and 4 gate to easy victory Edit: Oh wait i hope this is played after the patch so thorzain will win easily Have you even seen Naniwa play besides the HasuObs matchup? He's solid at everything, and he invents (or atleast introduce to the pro scene) new stuff all the time. I would love for T-Zain to take this home simply cuz it's a great story. But Naniwa is a WAY better player. He will take this. Quite easily I think. Edit: 92%. Nani's PvT win ratio. | ||
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On May 11 2011 21:13 sVnteen wrote: thorzain will take it all that nani can do to win is 4 gate THATS a thing he is really good at maybe he will play 1 game standard like he tried vs hasu but then he will realize that he is too bad for that and 4 gate to easy victory Edit: Oh wait i hope this is played after the patch so thorzain will win easily Jesus christ. Just because he's 4 gating in PvP, doesn't mean that's the only thing he does. Have you ever watched a PvP in your entire life? I dunno how all these people find their way to team liquid from the battle net forums, but it's quite sad indeed. | ||
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berimbau
Australia22 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:57 Seam wrote: I think Thorzain's TvP is just too good. Thorzain's TvP is too good? Have you seen Naniwa's PvT? he is 23-2 in his last 25 games against terran. I think Naniwa's gonna take it pretty comfortably. Sorry to disappoint thorzain fans.. | ||
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jmols
New Zealand41 Posts
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BlindSC2
United Kingdom435 Posts
Although I would love it if THOR!!!!!!zain won | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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TheRooster
Sweden719 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:57 Seam wrote: I think Thorzain's TvP is just too good. Naniwa got a 92% winrate against Terran. | ||
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Adomine
United States43 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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FoFo
Netherlands207 Posts
suuuuuper hyped for this though =D | ||
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CosmicHippo
United States547 Posts
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nVusPip
United Kingdom260 Posts
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rexob
Sweden202 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25970 Posts
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tGFuRy
United States537 Posts
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Mystogun
United States392 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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McPwnage
Canada48 Posts
but I'm a Protoss hypocrisy ftw | ||
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Synystyr
United States1446 Posts
On May 12 2011 01:45 Chill wrote: Heart vs Mind, and only one of those have a Captain Planet ring named after them. I don't think I've ever seen a better reason to vote with your heart than this. Fucking epic. THORZAIN 4-0 | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
No, he has a 69.9% winrate in PvT | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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Inn0cu0s
Canada21 Posts
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Monzterg
Sweden257 Posts
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Baerinho
Germany257 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:46 BlueyD wrote: This is such a hard choice... I just want this to get to the 7th game. I picked Naniwa, but I'm rooting for Thorzain even though I'm a Protoss player. This is going to be awesome. Basicly wanted to write the same, am Toss, think Naniwa will win in a VERY close series, but definatly rooting for Thorzain | ||
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Ikaros
United States16 Posts
On May 11 2011 14:33 Ysorigin wrote: COME ON THORZAIN! I voted naniwa though >.> This. | ||
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Nilzone
Norway23 Posts
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
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Dartmoose
United States11 Posts
and i'm wondering if we'll see ghosts used in the finals after the new patch... | ||
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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Johnnybb
Denmark486 Posts
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slickbilliam
United States73 Posts
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Rain.cz
Czech Republic227 Posts
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Aristodemus
England1986 Posts
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normalman
United Kingdom36 Posts
If Thorzain wins more than 1 round against Nani, it just shows how imba Terran is :p (joke) | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
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Captain Mayhem
Sweden774 Posts
That being said, Thorzain has been the underdog for the entire TSL. He barely flinched while juggernauting his way through. He'll beat the crap out of Naniwa :D I hope... | ||
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Blueblister
Sweden321 Posts
Would be cool if Thorzain pulled of a win here. him having been the underdog in every single round. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
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CaptainKirk
Canada34 Posts
One thing to note: Naniwa has over a 90% win rate against Terran in his last 25 matches (his highest win rate by far out of the three matchups). I am very interested to see what happens here. Anyone else getting that CrunCher vs IdRa pre-game feeling (remember?) Thorzain resembling CrunCher, and Naniwa resembling IdRa? | ||
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
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ayababa
Australia347 Posts
On May 11 2011 17:31 disciple wrote: T-Zain be pimpin im going to refer to him as T-Zain from now on.. i dont even know who this thorzain character is. ^^ GOGO T-Zain | ||
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Feito
United States65 Posts
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Riotbot
United States87 Posts
On May 12 2011 09:22 mythandier wrote: Rooting for Thorzain but after 1.3.3 I don't know if he'll be able to take out Nani. Did 1.3.3 really buff toss that much? I haven't been keeping completely up to date with SC2, could someone fill me in on this? I thought the biggest patch changes had to do with the anti-4Gate pylon radius change and archons being massive - does that make them game changing vs T due to marauders having a harder time vs them or something? | ||
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Dgtl
Canada889 Posts
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MattRz
Chile1680 Posts
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strexer
United States54 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:34 Riotbot wrote: Did 1.3.3 really buff toss that much? I haven't been keeping completely up to date with SC2, could someone fill me in on this? I thought the biggest patch changes had to do with the anti-4Gate pylon radius change and archons being massive - does that make them game changing vs T due to marauders having a harder time vs them or something? The changes in 1.3.3 are insignificant for the TvP match-up. The archon tech tree is fairly unexplored and also the tournament is approaching in 3 days, so Nani will need to make a build quickly if he is going to use Archons. Saying that the 1.3.3 patch will change the match-up in favor of Nani doesn't make logical sense. BTW GOGO THORZAIN!!! | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
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RushBoxer!
United States173 Posts
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brotosterone
United States260 Posts
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Deleted User 123474
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The Thor nerf might tip the scales though to the point where Thorzain loses by one game. Ghost buff and Archon buff balance themselves out, and Warpgate research nerf only means that Thorzain definitely won't be beaten early. | ||
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mdlstarcraft
Denmark4 Posts
The Changes from the patch might throw both players off a bit, but hopefully some practice will kiil most of the posible mistakes. I see ThorZain taking it! but something is telling me that Naniwa will take a few games. looking forward to a great series! FistPump! | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:00 travis wrote: i think thorzain underdog again -.- or not | ||
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FIRETRUCK
Sweden78 Posts
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AnxiousHippo
Australia1451 Posts
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Falkner
Philippines9 Posts
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Artanixuk
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Wrath 2.1
Germany880 Posts
On May 11 2011 20:18 anatem wrote: what the, you people don't really think Thorzain is gonna beat Nani Thorzain could beat anyone. Koreans look like bronze players compared to him. TSL2 Champion bites the dust.. best european terran can't defeat thorzaine in his weakest matchup. Hes going to own. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
Naniwa 4-1. | ||
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Eclipselol
Germany4 Posts
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revolct
Germany3 Posts
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TigerKarl
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
On May 11 2011 14:33 Ysorigin wrote: COME ON THORZAIN! I voted naniwa though >.> hehe - indeed | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
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worked13
Australia93 Posts
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jungeMann
Germany10 Posts
Go THORZAIN crush the cocky protoss Naniwa! | ||
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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kenwoo
United States484 Posts
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
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Butterz
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MK4512
Canada938 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
I voted for Thorzain!! Can't wait for the epic play to actually start! | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
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Vod.kaholic
United States1052 Posts
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
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gun.slinger
Canada258 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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mikyaJ
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On May 11 2011 14:31 Inschato wrote: I am disappoint Thorzain, I have you as third on my bracket. Thorzain hwaiting! Why? Were you just guessing? | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
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tsuxiit
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StarStruck
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Interesting turn of events indeed. | ||
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Plasmaster
United States7 Posts
Anyways, very excited. A premature cheer to the organizers of the tourney; it's been really fun watching. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On May 13 2011 11:35 Ownos wrote: Naniwa. So when he wins we'll get a shitstorm of nerf/OP cries despite the patch nerfing protoss yet again. Archon buff, zealot/stalker/sentry build time decreased only thing that was a slight nerf was warp gate research. Thor nerf is bigger than all that | ||
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nash.eu
Germany22 Posts
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
To bad that we will not see anymore Thor play from Throzain. | ||
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Sakkreth
Lithuania1096 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:02 monx wrote: Naniwa will prove once and for all that he is the best foreigner protoss in the world. I hope he pulls it off. I still think it's gonna be tight tough I'd dare to say that he's not cause of White-Ra. | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
[QUOTE]On May 13 2011 20:18 Sakkreth wrote: On May 11 2011 15:02 monx wrote: Naniwa will prove once and for all that he is the best foreigner protoss in the world. I hope he pulls it off. I still think it's gonna be tight tough I'd dare to say that he's not cause of White-Ra.[/QUOTE] White-Ra is good because of his stable play. I find it hard to call him the best protoss around with players like Naniwa around. | ||
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
Should be good games though, NaNi is pretty beastly. Very much looking forward to this. ^^ | ||
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Voltus
Australia30 Posts
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DrHonken
Sweden5 Posts
I think its quite impressive that in the tsl3 we had 5 players accounting we only have a total population of 9 million in the whole country | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On May 13 2011 21:04 Robinsa wrote: He may take a couple of games but I dont think he can win vs Naniwa. somebody who can win vs MC in a best of 5, can simply win vs everybody... | ||
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Sakarabu
United Kingdom132 Posts
On May 13 2011 22:54 gwaihir wrote: somebody who can win vs MC in a best of 5, can simply win vs everybody... I think people give MC too much credit. He has great micro, and changed the meta game in Protoss' favour for a short while and for that he is great. However now that his timings have all been played to death he really doesn't have game deciding macro to fall back on. Also lately some of his discisions have been severely lacking (fast expanding against agressive terrans and just losing instantly). Overall most of his success was because of risks he took which were lucky enough to come off due to the timings being unfamiliar. However, Naniwa is just an all round solid player and doesn't have to rely on luck based risky builds to win and for that he at least offers a different kind of challenge. | ||
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MetricYAO
United Kingdom69 Posts
On May 11 2011 14:33 Ysorigin wrote: COME ON THORZAIN! I voted naniwa though >.> I agree | ||
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Canada5941 Posts
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Kuri
Canada88 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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gejfsyd
Poland156 Posts
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Mob.scene
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unbaal
Sweden44 Posts
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timtwins
United States49 Posts
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
and we all know what nani is going to do right? | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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The_Sanjuro
United States41 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
Thorzain my pick though | ||
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DarthXX
Australia998 Posts
On May 14 2011 11:54 The_Sanjuro wrote: Thorzain is playing in beast mode. I think naniwas luck is running out Naniwa is playing in beastmode. I think Thorzain's luck is running out. Naniwa gonna take this, but it'll be close expect to see some sick games. | ||
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Ritos753
United States26 Posts
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Qwizzyx
Sweden44 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13386 Posts
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BreakeR.
Austria220 Posts
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United States4 Posts
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
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vijeze
Netherlands719 Posts
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Parsistamon
United States390 Posts
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sheaRZerg
United States613 Posts
Thorzain Fighting! | ||
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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DoubleB
Germany870 Posts
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KayCee
Belgium8 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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NightHawk929
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Thorzain fighting!!! | ||
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El_Deuz
Mexico71 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
FruitDealer Tyler MC Kas And if he beats Naniwa... Then he beat GSL champ, TSL champ, GSL champ, and MLG champ. And that's not even counting Kas. That is a sick list of defeated players. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. I think Naniwa will win. | ||
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Trinz
Australia72 Posts
Go Thorzain!! | ||
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Man.Magic
United States178 Posts
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
I'm rooting for him Cinderella story in real life ftw | ||
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blizzind
United States642 Posts
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Netto.
Poland523 Posts
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zorromiha
Afghanistan33 Posts
i vote naniwa, even tho my brackets fucked lol | ||
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hookyelyak
Egypt184 Posts
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laguu
Finland278 Posts
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VarloK
Belarus3 Posts
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sharktopus.
United States456 Posts
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sharktopus.
United States456 Posts
On May 15 2011 15:58 Man.Magic wrote: With the current patch, Naniwa is set for victory! Oh please, that patch will hardly effect the way these two play each other. | ||
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ekege
Sweden7 Posts
On May 16 2011 03:55 sharktopus. wrote: Oh please, that patch will hardly effect the way these two play each other. I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not but.. actually it does and it does affect ThorZain. He used a thor build against MC and Tyler and the recent patch gave thors back their energy which means protoss can use feedback against them again. | ||
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Ultrasavage
United Kingdom3 Posts
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Captain Mayhem
Sweden774 Posts
But that was *so* close for Thorzain... Intense. | ||
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United States17042 Posts
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United States537 Posts
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