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TSL3 Finals: Naniwa or Thorzain? - Page 6

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Riotbot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States87 Posts
May 12 2011 02:34 GMT
#101
On May 12 2011 09:22 mythandier wrote:
Rooting for Thorzain but after 1.3.3 I don't know if he'll be able to take out Nani.


Did 1.3.3 really buff toss that much? I haven't been keeping completely up to date with SC2, could someone fill me in on this? I thought the biggest patch changes had to do with the anti-4Gate pylon radius change and archons being massive - does that make them game changing vs T due to marauders having a harder time vs them or something?
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Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
May 12 2011 04:27 GMT
#102
I think Thorzain will win. His preparation is second to none. He seems to the kind of player that could win any tournament as long as he has time to prepare, he is super smart player.
^______________^
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
May 12 2011 04:27 GMT
#103
After 4 games Thorzain has finally stopped being the underdog.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
strexer
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States54 Posts
May 12 2011 04:49 GMT
#104
On May 12 2011 11:34 Riotbot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 09:22 mythandier wrote:
Rooting for Thorzain but after 1.3.3 I don't know if he'll be able to take out Nani.


Did 1.3.3 really buff toss that much? I haven't been keeping completely up to date with SC2, could someone fill me in on this? I thought the biggest patch changes had to do with the anti-4Gate pylon radius change and archons being massive - does that make them game changing vs T due to marauders having a harder time vs them or something?


The changes in 1.3.3 are insignificant for the TvP match-up. The archon tech tree is fairly unexplored and also the tournament is approaching in 3 days, so Nani will need to make a build quickly if he is going to use Archons. Saying that the 1.3.3 patch will change the match-up in favor of Nani doesn't make logical sense.

BTW GOGO THORZAIN!!!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 12 2011 04:53 GMT
#105
Can't we vote for both players to have a great time?
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
May 12 2011 05:47 GMT
#106
Definitely rooting for Thorzain, but something tells me Nani will take the series
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
RushBoxer!
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
May 12 2011 06:42 GMT
#107
Looking forward to this finals!! Naniwa and Thorzaine both look so solid.
spoons and forks
brotosterone
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States260 Posts
May 12 2011 06:55 GMT
#108
Thorzain has a SICK tvp
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19295 Posts
May 12 2011 08:29 GMT
#109
Naniwa is steam rolling right now. I have no way of seeing him lose this.
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Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
May 12 2011 08:51 GMT
#110
I can't see Naniwa being able to crack Thorzain. Nothing seems to throw him off, and in a long term game Thorzain will pull the W.

The Thor nerf might tip the scales though to the point where Thorzain loses by one game. Ghost buff and Archon buff balance themselves out, and Warpgate research nerf only means that Thorzain definitely won't be beaten early.
mdlstarcraft
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark4 Posts
May 12 2011 09:05 GMT
#111
Gotta Agree with Komentaja.
The Changes from the patch might throw both players off a bit, but hopefully some practice will kiil most of the posible mistakes. I see ThorZain taking it! but something is telling me that Naniwa will take a few games. looking forward to a great series! FistPump!
...should have scouted better
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 12 2011 09:53 GMT
#112
On May 11 2011 15:00 travis wrote:
i think thorzain underdog again -.-


or not
FIRETRUCK
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden78 Posts
May 12 2011 11:35 GMT
#113
Thorzain is going to take this. I think it's just solid vs solid and Thorzain seems more solid.
( ' .') ('<_' )
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
May 12 2011 12:04 GMT
#114
I went with Naniwa, go show 'em who's boss
An apple a day keeps the Protoss away | TLHF
Falkner
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines9 Posts
May 12 2011 13:04 GMT
#115
gotta go with naniwa here.. cause he's pretty solid right now.. go go naniwa fighting!!!
Artanixuk
Profile Joined September 2010
7 Posts
May 12 2011 13:52 GMT
#116
Both are awesome players, and I've got alot of respect for Naniwa, but Thorzain has been on such good form, all of his games are just disturbing as he builds counters for the units that his opponent will be building in the next minute lol.
Wrath 2.1
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany880 Posts
May 12 2011 14:40 GMT
#117
On May 11 2011 20:18 anatem wrote:
what the, you people don't really think Thorzain is gonna beat Nani


Thorzain could beat anyone. Koreans look like bronze players compared to him. TSL2 Champion bites the dust.. best european terran can't defeat thorzaine in his weakest matchup.

Hes going to own.
The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
May 12 2011 15:20 GMT
#118
T-Zain's always played in the comfort of his own home, and this will be his first major LAN he will visit in a long time (I dunno what he did in his wc3 days), but he'll have butterflies in the size of elephants, while Naniwa will be cool as a cucumber.
Naniwa 4-1.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Eclipselol
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany4 Posts
May 12 2011 15:56 GMT
#119
Gogo Thorzain make mouzsports proud of you! :D
revolct
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 16:06:56
May 12 2011 16:05 GMT
#120
I've heard all pro Koreans gamers going sepukku after they lose important games, is it truth? I worried
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