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TSL3 Finals: Naniwa or Thorzain? - Page 8

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tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
May 13 2011 03:17 GMT
#141
I thought Naniwa would dominate this poll. I voted for him.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 13 2011 05:27 GMT
#142
Same here! O:

Interesting turn of events indeed.
Plasmaster
Profile Joined September 2010
United States7 Posts
May 13 2011 06:31 GMT
#143
Rooting for Thorzain. His TvP is very strong and he managed to steamroll MC, but Naniwa is also a very solid player. It'll be interesting to see if Thorzain does his Thor build with patch 1.3.3 Thor nerf (but conversely, maybe more ghosts and well placed EMPs).

Anyways, very excited. A premature cheer to the organizers of the tourney; it's been really fun watching.
Vision without action is a daydream. Action with without vision is a nightmare.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
May 13 2011 08:55 GMT
#144
On May 13 2011 11:35 Ownos wrote:
Naniwa. So when he wins we'll get a shitstorm of nerf/OP cries despite the patch nerfing protoss yet again.


Archon buff, zealot/stalker/sentry build time decreased

only thing that was a slight nerf was warp gate research. Thor nerf is bigger than all that
nash.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany22 Posts
May 13 2011 09:26 GMT
#145
only sentrytime is decreased and only for gateway. I dont think that the patch has much influence on this matchup. I hope thorzain wins, I enjoyed his games so far and maybe he has even better trainingspartners since joining mousesports! Gogo Thorzain, but please not too fast, want to see 7 games xD
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
May 13 2011 09:36 GMT
#146
Both players are great, but I'm a naniwa fan and must stick to that.

To bad that we will not see anymore Thor play from Throzain.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
May 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#147
On May 11 2011 15:02 monx wrote:
Naniwa will prove once and for all that he is the best foreigner protoss in the world. I hope he pulls it off. I still think it's gonna be tight tough



I'd dare to say that he's not cause of White-Ra.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 12:06:49
May 13 2011 12:04 GMT
#148
I find it very intersting that Thorzaine is leading this poll considering Naniwas recent performance. He may take a couple of games but I dont think he can win vs Naniwa.
[QUOTE]On May 13 2011 20:18 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 11 2011 15:02 monx wrote:
Naniwa will prove once and for all that he is the best foreigner protoss in the world. I hope he pulls it off. I still think it's gonna be tight tough



I'd dare to say that he's not cause of White-Ra.
[/QUOTE]
White-Ra is good because of his stable play. I find it hard to call him the best protoss around with players like Naniwa around.
4649!!
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
May 13 2011 12:31 GMT
#149
Gotta go with ThorZaiN. He went through MC to reach the finals - if he can take out MC, he can take out NaNi IMO.

Should be good games though, NaNi is pretty beastly. Very much looking forward to this. ^^
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Voltus
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia30 Posts
May 13 2011 13:08 GMT
#150
Thorzain plays Terran the way Terran should be played.
DrHonken
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden5 Posts
May 13 2011 13:14 GMT
#151
The best thing about this is that sweden will win no matter how the final goes
I think its quite impressive that in the tsl3 we had 5 players accounting we only have a total population of 9 million in the whole country
Im a doctor in real life who loves starcraft.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
May 13 2011 13:54 GMT
#152
On May 13 2011 21:04 Robinsa wrote:
He may take a couple of games but I dont think he can win vs Naniwa.


somebody who can win vs MC in a best of 5, can simply win vs everybody...
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Sakarabu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 14:37:30
May 13 2011 14:35 GMT
#153
On May 13 2011 22:54 gwaihir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 21:04 Robinsa wrote:
He may take a couple of games but I dont think he can win vs Naniwa.


somebody who can win vs MC in a best of 5, can simply win vs everybody...


I think people give MC too much credit. He has great micro, and changed the meta game in Protoss' favour for a short while and for that he is great. However now that his timings have all been played to death he really doesn't have game deciding macro to fall back on. Also lately some of his discisions have been severely lacking (fast expanding against agressive terrans and just losing instantly).

Overall most of his success was because of risks he took which were lucky enough to come off due to the timings being unfamiliar. However, Naniwa is just an all round solid player and doesn't have to rely on luck based risky builds to win and for that he at least offers a different kind of challenge.
MetricYAO
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom69 Posts
May 13 2011 14:45 GMT
#154
On May 11 2011 14:33 Ysorigin wrote:
COME ON THORZAIN!
I voted naniwa though >.>


I agree
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 13 2011 15:11 GMT
#155
Lets go Naniwa! Show the terran who is the real boss of the universe!
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Kuri
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada88 Posts
May 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#156
I'm pretty sure Thorzain has been the underdog in every poll, yet he manages to win. I fear for the worst now that he's the favorite in the poll....
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 13 2011 17:07 GMT
#157
Next TSL I'm not gonna be so conservative with my bracket...... I knew Thorzain was a beast before TSL even started, but I had no idea he was a super-mega gosu beast.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
lHimmell
Profile Joined May 2011
1 Post
May 13 2011 17:22 GMT
#158
Naniwa only can 4 GATE
gejfsyd
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland156 Posts
May 13 2011 18:51 GMT
#159
I think thorzain will take it. Beating mc showed us how good his tvp is. I thought he will lose to kas(tvt was his weakest match-up) but affter winnng 4-1 i am confident that he will win with nani(although nani is also great player)
Mob.scene
Profile Joined May 2011
16 Posts
May 13 2011 19:16 GMT
#160
Really looking forward to it! Too close to call with any confidence, but I picked Thor!
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