Power Rank 05/09/2011 - Page 10

On May 11 2011 22:26 aupstar wrote:


Lets look at individual titles in the previous seasons and see who Bisu was kicked out by:

Korean air S2 OSL 2010 (Ro32)
Knocked out by effort and leta

WCG2010
Knocked out by Kal 2:0

Bigfile MSL 2010
Knocked out Sea 2:0

Hana Daetoo MSL 2010 (Ro32)
Knocked out by shuttle and movie

Korean Air S1 OSL 2010
Knocked out by go.go 2:1

Nate MSL 2009
Knocked out by Bogus and Guemchi

Ever OSL 2009
Knocked out by Shine 2:1

Which brings us finally to his last series win

WCG2009 Finals
Not Knocked out by Stork 2:0 (This was also the last Bo3 that he won)

Avalon MSL2009
Knocked out by Iris 3:2

And his last Bo5 win

GomTV Classic Season 2 2009 (09-02-08 to be exact)
Not Knocked out by Jangbi 3:1


In conclusion, Mindcrime's hilarious statement holds true.

gg

On May 13 2011 11:33 red4ce wrote:
Random question for anyone who has been around more than 5 years. Was the November 2006 PR the first bw pr done on TL? I can't find any that go further back than that one.

On May 13 2011 10:15 darktreb wrote:


Seriously, how do Bisu fans even talk? He hasn't won a BO3 or BO5 since 2009. 2009! It's been nearly TWO years since he's won even a single series!!!!!! No OSL ro4's. No MSL ro8's. TWO years, the streak continues until OSL starts, and let's be honest, who really thinks he's going to win a series there?

On May 13 2011 13:58 Mortality wrote:


Yes.



I fully agree that Bisu has something to prove. He's been "PL only" for way too long. But the reality is that Bisu was not an S-class player for most of 2010 and these arguments don't really say anything about Bisu's skill right now, when he most certainly is S-class, #1 Protoss player by ELO in every single match.

And it's certainly true that Bisu is still failing to advance now, but this past Ro32... fuck, EVERYONE knew that one of the three best players in the world was going to be sent home. As far as I know that situation has only happened once before in history (IOPS: NaDa, Oov, July in the same group -- NaDa and July faced off in the finals as a result).

Old results do provide a standard that can be used to put new results in context, but don't get carried away in thinking "Bisu can't possibly win a series because he has no ability at series play" when he's won THREE fucking SL's.



FFS why the fuck do I have to argue in favor of Bisu when 95+% of Bisu fans annoy the crap out of me?

On May 13 2011 15:34 vishrut wrote:
does anybody actually know when the osl is going to start? Are they trying to desynchronize the msl and osl so that there is always one league going on? That would be good for the players

On May 13 2011 15:34 vishrut wrote:
does anybody actually know when the osl is going to start? Are they trying to desynchronize the msl and osl so that there is always one league going on? That would be good for the players

On May 14 2011 07:58 Tempest[OEC] wrote:

Well he did beat Mind and hyvaa in Bo3s during Ro36 for Korean Air OSL S2. And he beat Baby at WCG 2010 if we're gonna count that. Not the most impressive list of series opponents but its something? Lol.

On May 13 2011 14:22 darktreb wrote:


I'm not saying he can't possibly win a series. But to go two years without winning one is truly amazing. The list of players who've won a series in the past two years is incredibly long. And yes, he's obviously the best Protoss player right now, and got a little unlucky with the group of death. But at a certain point when you have been unable to scrap together a win for two years, that's just simply indefensible, and until he manages to change there's not much to say. None of this "PL comes first" BS ... two years.

And of course everyone remembers he's won three titles - he's the greatest Protoss player of all time (and I say this as a huge anti-Bisu person), and I don't think there's even a close second place. But at a certain point, the statute of limitations on his titles has to be coming up, doesn't it? He hasn't won a title since 2008, nearly three years. His last title was only four months after July's last (and admittedly flukiest of all time) title. It was a different era ... Bisu needs to step up and go deep in a league for the sake of BW as a spectator sport. As someone who loves to hate Bisu, it actually frustrates me that he can't go deep in a league. It's no fun rooting against someone who can't even make ro8.

On May 13 2011 10:15 darktreb wrote:


Seriously, how do Bisu fans even talk? He hasn't won a BO3 or BO5 since 2009. 2009! It's been nearly TWO years since he's won even a single series!!!!!! No OSL ro4's. No MSL ro8's. TWO years, the streak continues until OSL starts, and let's be honest, who really thinks he's going to win a series there?

On May 14 2011 12:18 Mortality wrote:


You've read my posts. You know I don't buy into that crap about PL uber alas. It's just crap. But I'm not going to ignore what he's doing in it either. The reality is that Bisu's play in April was fantastic -- unquestionably better than it's been during that entire 2 year time. And quite frankly it caught me by surprise too, because I wasn't expecting it.

P.S. July's title wasn't so much a fluke as metagame circumstances conspiring in his favor. It was Protoss season and July happened to be the best ZvP player in the world at that time. And I might be tempted to argue Nal_Ra and maybe even Giyom (not many people remember because a number of Giyom's wins predate the existence of KeSPA, but Giyom won 75000 in prize money in a 6 month period, basically the same amount as winning 4-5 SL's in 6 months) on Bisu's level.

On May 14 2011 07:25 infinity2k9 wrote:
I can't believe that Bisu hasn't won a series for so long and the last was 4 months close to July's last title. Pretty damning stuff.



The OSL has already started after it's rebranding as MyStarleague, there's qualifiers already taking place around Korea afaik. Why there's barely any information about it on here i don't know.