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wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
June 20 2010 12:39 GMT
#301
Don't think join date would help, all the 2010 guys don't get bashed enough already? It would even be more of a mess in the forum.
If someone wants to look down on a post based on post count, join date he will always find a reason. You can still just click in the profile. For me post count doesn't mean anything.
CraftyStars
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada47 Posts
June 20 2010 17:23 GMT
#302
I don't really care but I've been play SC for a couple of months now and haven't even looked at SC2.
"The queen forces a creep tumor out of her bowels" WTF?! Gotta love the Zerg
Seltsam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-20 22:25:02
June 20 2010 22:18 GMT
#303
I believe that people unfairly label those who have fewer posts too often. I see plenty of one-line posts that have absolutely no value from people with several hundred (and sometimes thousands) of posts. Granted, we are all guilty of posting pointlessly on occasion, but it seems to me that a person with 150 posts, of which 140 are well thought out and of high quality contributes more than a person with 1500 posts, of which 450 are well thought out and of high quality.

I've seen a lot of people with perfectly valid opinions be dismissed simply because they have a relatively low post count. Frankly, I feel appalled whenever I see it happen, and it could easily be remedied by either dropping post count entirely, or leaving it in the profile exclusively. A post should be judged on its own merits, and not on the arbitrary value that post count supposedly affirms.

In essence, I think I'm trying to say that we should drop the post count entirely because quality is more important that quantity, but there are those who would be quick to judge based purely on the latter.

I feel the same about join dates. Even if someone never played Brood War, that doesn't mean they can't have any sort of insight in terms of Starcraft 2. On top of that, there are those who played Brood War, but joined the forums rather recently. I know I am one of those people. I was pretty young when Brood War came out,and didn't take it very seriously. Then college took up all of my time. Now, I play Starcraft 2, and I am old enough to be able to look at it with the focused eye the game requires. I signed up to the forums to help broaden my outlook on the game, and hopefully spread ideas of my own that might help out others. Joining later doesn't somehow make me unable or less able to contribute valid and constructive ideas on the game.

So I say just lose everything. It would make it almost impossible to judge a post based on anything other than the post's own merit.

On June 20 2010 00:50 infinity2k9 wrote:
No one is saying that 100% of new posters are bad players, why do people have to see things so black and white. In my opinion it usually is helpful personally, i there's a correlation between bad advice and low postcounts. Not 100%, but a correlation definitely.


I agree. There is a correlation. However, correlation does not necessarily imply causation. People tend to assume it does, though (I am not trying to imply that you do), and that leads to a lot of silly prejudices, which then could potentially lead to the dismissal of a decent idea or valid opinion for no real reason. I think it's more important that every decent idea gets heard than to have an arbitrary benchmark of insight, intellect, knowledge, or validity that ultimately means nothing.
Team Limited ftw! www.teamltd.net
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
June 21 2010 01:19 GMT
#304
i don't care
BW is back
infuzer
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden30 Posts
June 21 2010 15:08 GMT
#305
I don't care about the post count THEREFORE I'd rather put it in the profile for the interested.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
June 21 2010 19:19 GMT
#306
How else am I supposed to discriminate people?


Discrimination is a RIGHT!!!!!


I voted keep as is.
We decide our own destiny
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
June 21 2010 19:29 GMT
#307
Replace it with Reddit's karmasystem.
AKA SuddenSalad
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 04:09:33
June 22 2010 03:20 GMT
#308
I really couldn't care less at all about post count, all it says is how much you like to voice your opinion, not whether it's worth jack. I'm sure there are also many long time readers who don't ever post anything. Join date is also a little iffy, because although it is a better marker of dedication, I for one didn't know about this website for a long time, even though I've been playing Starcraft since it was still Vanilla, long before Brood War came out.

I always knew about SCLegacy back in the day, especially after they started doing pimpest plays, but I was ignorant of this amazing website for many many years, but my ignorance of web surfing is only because if I'm on the internet, I'm more likely playing Starcraft than surfing.

Somebody mentioned the map balance thread, which could have been a great discussion had it not gone derailed. I would like to share a quote from it concerning famous names and post counts, as of two days ago.
On June 20 2010 00:36 -Desu- wrote:
Lets check some statistics:

The number of post count of the individuals below:

TheLittleOne - 54
Tarson - 56
qxc - 98
HuK - 191
Mondragon - 0
Lucifron - 0
Gretorp - 343
DIMAGA - 4


It would be interesting if anyone who makes an issue of post count can be challenged to actually play some games against the member. No way to enforce it, but it would tell a lot more about the player's knowledge then something as arbitrary as how often they open their internet mouth. Some people can't even close their regular mouths enough, let alone their anonymous internet one.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
June 22 2010 06:23 GMT
#309
No need for change.
Dracid
Profile Joined December 2009
United States280 Posts
June 22 2010 19:49 GMT
#310
On June 22 2010 15:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
No need for change.


Ah, the irony. See, simply voting in the poll already shares your opinion on the matter. Apparently that's not enough though, and you decided to contribute a one line post telling us what you voted, without any explanation or reasoning for why you think there's no need for change though. I don't really follow usernames enough to know your posting habits aside from this thread, but if this post is any indication for your 4000+ other posts...

Note that I don't mean to single you out, but you just happen to be the latest poster. Jackal03 for instance somehow has an even less substantial post a little higher up on the page, and he's got 3500+ posts.

Anyhow, I don't think there's anything essentially wrong with displaying a user's post count, but forum seniority/elitism does get tiring at times so I voted for postcounts to be removed. Fewer measures of e-penis => more value given to the actual content within someone's posts => profit.
igLeX
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada140 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-23 00:21:55
June 23 2010 00:20 GMT
#311
On June 14 2010 21:18 shalafi wrote:
Sincerely, the join date is more useful to classify people. I see myself looking at join dates all the time. "This HAS to be a post sc2 user"->check->95% of the times I'm right.

But some of the best users only have a few of posts (MDT anyone?), while some posters made over 1000 since the start of the beta.


So about the post count... I don't care.


I agree with this. There have been some people putting up posts that have been very good that have come from sc2 beta but there has been an overwhelming amount of people that post complete nonsense and pretend to know what they're talking about, and this really helps identify them.

PS: If you put post count only into the profile people are still going to check it and it'll just be more hassle -.-
DeckTech
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands26 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-23 11:36:02
June 23 2010 11:29 GMT
#312
Here I see a two fold problem.

At the one side there are the people who discriminate (if there are really people who do that). In my opinion it is there choice to read the comments they want to read. If they feel that a new member doesn't have any interesting to say, it is there misfortune if they miss valuable information because it came from a new member.

At the other side there are the new members. If you want to have a good site, it is important that people feel welcome and that their opinion counts. If they are left out because they are new, the site will loose potential members and will become venerable to competitive sites.

So, maybe the real poll should be: 1 for the older members, do you discriminate on how many posts a member has. 2 for the newer members, do you feel welcome on the site, and do you feel that your opinion counts to others
NaturalHacks
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand77 Posts
June 23 2010 13:28 GMT
#313
all I want to see is league placement, a lil pic would be nice (diamond plat bronze etc), just so that we can roughly gauge the skill of a new user in terms of starcraft instead of having people listening to those in the copper league with 1000 posts all of em bad stratergy tips, this example is extreme but post count hardly defines the quality of a user,

the easiest way I could think of doing this is have a sc2 bot that people can add as a friend from tl on starcraft and it reads there profile and updates there profile, or just a snapshot of profile summary, or something sent to someone who sorts em.

although this would be difficult to do, doesn't matter anyway! no one will listen to me because my post count is low lol.

this forum does seem to be filled with quite a few useless comments and spam displaying post count can only encourage that, not to mention tournaments with minimum post counts to enter... wow.

on a side note the date of join is just another discriminatory factor, although it could be used to judge how long someone has been a member of the community a lot of people such as my-self enjoyed just lurking the threads to gain knowledge without needlessly posting garbage, I actually made an account recently because I wanted to enter some sc2 tournaments, once I saw some tournaments have a minimum post amount I have been frantically trying to find places to post that aren't complete garbage but still.i also joined because I wanted to share the map I made, although so many other people made maps I feel like I would somehow contribute negatively by posting my map because my post count is low it might actually be taken offensively.

Naturally
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
June 23 2010 18:07 GMT
#314
as i think most of the "remove postcount entirely" voters are new users who're fed up with the elitist veterans intimidating them i'd not want that.

i think one shouldn't value the contents of the post in context of the post count (see charliemurphy, sry dude), so removing it could also be a better way to not become too much like "ha i got twice as many posts as you so you're twice as wrong!" - but given the first argument, no.

in profile or as usual, i don't care
FitzChivalry
Profile Joined April 2010
France5 Posts
June 23 2010 20:34 GMT
#315
I'm about 0messages, the question is: does it make my voice less important?
And so you answer the question of the poll^^
Fitz, débouche le bouchon du bichon, du beurre et ça biche!
Seltsam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 16:51:59
June 24 2010 16:51 GMT
#316
It strikes me as odd that most people who voted to get rid of post count are sick of people telling them to stfu and gtfo because their post count is low, even though they might make some valid points.

It also strikes me as odd that a lot of the people voting to keep post count want to keep it so that they can tell people to stfu and gtfo because their post count is low.

And then of course there are those who just don't care.

But I wonder:
if you eliminated everyone who use post count as a measure of intellect or ability, would the vote count look the same? My bet is that it would likely not.
Team Limited ftw! www.teamltd.net
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 25 2010 01:42 GMT
#317
On June 20 2010 00:36 -Desu- wrote:
Lets check some statistics:

The number of post count of the individuals below:

TheLittleOne - 54
Tarson - 56
qxc - 98
HuK - 191
Mondragon - 0
Lucifron - 0
Gretorp - 343
DIMAGA - 4

False. Mondy has one from a happy birthday thread earlier this year.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
June 25 2010 02:06 GMT
#318
IMO, some < 100 posters are really good (at posting, rofl?). Not because you have low post count makes you a clueless or mediocre person in TL.

I've seen people who have 1k posts already and joined this year. Post count doesn't mean many thing, and keeping it as it is won't hurt anyone, except those people who 1a2a3a for 10k just with 1 liners lolol
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