EPTIf you had to choose now?
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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EntertainMe
864 Posts
I want to see what the general census is on Tl.net regarding that matter. Poll: Flash, the New Bonjwa? Yes (795) No (722) 1517 total votes Your vote: Flash, the New Bonjwa? | ||
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shurgen
350 Posts
But Jaedong in my heart =') | ||
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stolensheep
United Kingdom306 Posts
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Radio.active
United States121 Posts
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
I would only agree to Flash being bonjwa if Flash fanboys agree to Jaedong being a bonjwa back when he was the clear favorite in every game he played. | ||
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Crazazyasian1337
United States362 Posts
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SiegeFlank
United States410 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
They both dominate. But I like Jaedong more, since he drew me into progaming. | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
Really though, we need something like bo9 between the two. Not enough games.  | ||
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BenedictSpinoza
Algeria10 Posts
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Gene(S)is
Sweden419 Posts
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Polar_Nada
United States1548 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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stambe
Bulgaria492 Posts
On May 30 2010 16:44 Slow Motion wrote: Voted Flash in the last poll and will vote Flash again. So am i, cos i never loose faith in the players i like. | ||
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The_Piper42
United States426 Posts
On May 30 2010 16:28 QibingZero wrote: Jaedong still, without a second thought. Really though, we need something like bo9 between the two. Not enough games. Flash would win 5-0. | ||
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
I AM IN INDIViDUAL I AM UNIQUE | ||
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yomi
United States773 Posts
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
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LLXC
United States125 Posts
 Sticking with JD! | ||
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alypse
2771 Posts
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On May 30 2010 15:54 EntertainMe wrote: Make Flash Bonjwa status poll next please! I want to see what the general census is on Tl.net regarding that matter. Poll: Flash, the New Bonjwa? Yes (795) No (722) 1517 total votes Your vote: Flash, the New Bonjwa? Are you kidding me? He was 3-0'd by effort (2-3 loss, 3 losses in a row). That being said, have to pick Flash over Jaedong, dunno what the latter was doing in that last finals. | ||
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splcer
United States166 Posts
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bigjmachine
United States314 Posts
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fallingdream
Romania452 Posts
On May 30 2010 17:53 Nightmarjoo wrote: Are you kidding me? He was 3-0'd by effort (2-3 loss, 3 losses in a row). That being said, have to pick Flash over Jaedong, dunno what the latter was doing in that last finals. Are you kidding me? Flash 2-0'd effort ( 2-3, 2 wins in a row ). That being said, your logic is, at least, retarded. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Yuusha
Japan34 Posts
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bjwithbraces
United States549 Posts
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slowmanrunning
Canada285 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
JD all the way | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
On May 30 2010 20:01 7mk wrote: flash loses -> people vote for JD, flash wins-> people vote for flash? Wth is up with all these flip floppers JD all the way When you're voting on who would win then recent performances are pretty significant? | ||
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Borknagarush
176 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11143 Posts
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tre2ettsexsju
Sweden248 Posts
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DorF
Sweden961 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
(My vote is the same!) | ||
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
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Mista_Masta
Netherlands557 Posts
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Barfboy
Canada193 Posts
JD fan for life! | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
I don't stop liking my favorite players, even if they start to fail(Bisu ). I still don't know wtf happened though. | ||
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khersai
Poland366 Posts
who do you like more or who is the better player ? | ||
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Captain Mayhem
Sweden774 Posts
Thought it would be more than that. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
been voting flash 3 times. | ||
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
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foozoo
United States26 Posts
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EuphoricState
1 Post
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asdfTT123
United States989 Posts
Jaedong will come back and roll over everyone. ^_^ | ||
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DarKFoRcE
Germany1215 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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BWdero
Netherlands476 Posts
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Latham
9560 Posts
I'm sticking to JD and his deathstare. | ||
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ZhenMiChan
Netherlands1181 Posts
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iFU.pauline
France1548 Posts
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
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maareek
United States2042 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
Jaedong all the way. I would only agree to Flash being bonjwa if Flash fanboys agree to Jaedong being a bonjwa back when he was the clear favorite in every game he played. agreed | ||
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DeathByMonkeys
United States742 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
I also don't think the B word should be used for Flash just yet. I do acknowledge and recognise that he is an immensely strong player (and anyone who says otherwise is being silly), but he isn't Bonjwa just yet. (this is in reference to that poll that was posted on the first page.) | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
But Jaedong would be able to take Flash still. | ||
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Prospeh
Sweden31 Posts
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9179/a25g.jpg) From MDT thread Even if he would've lost both finals 0-3. | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
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ryuu_
United States1266 Posts
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
But I think Flash is playing very well atm. | ||
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cgerrr
Ukraine47 Posts
My eyes were bleeding while watching the finals: terran abused practically every imbalance in the TvZ matchup: hey look I have ONE tank – your defense is useless now; hey look I have 2 Science Vessels – your Mutas and defilers are useless now; hey I have 3 Valkiries – all your air is just useless trash now (scourge, what scourge? – ah that one, which was decimated by M&M); ho-ho you have an unlimited quantity of hydras – I don’t care, coz I have 2 sieged tanks and blocked choke with invulnerable bunkers and after your hydra push will fail miserably I’ll steam roll you with my critical mass of mesh, etc. Horrible. | ||
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shalafi
394 Posts
I keep my vote for him, because even if I'm disappointed, I was also disappointed by Flash's build orders. If Flash played more early aggression I probably would vote him now. | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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splcer
United States166 Posts
On May 31 2010 03:57 cgerrr wrote: Yeah, nice poll: everyone know that T>Z, but still pretend that SC1 is a balanced game after 5~ years WIHOUT PATCHES. My eyes were bleeding while watching the finals: terran abused practically every imbalance in the TvZ matchup: hey look I have ONE tank – your defense is useless now; hey look I have 2 Science Vessels – your Mutas and defilers are useless now; hey I have 3 Valkiries – all your air is just useless trash now (scourge, what scourge? – ah that one, which was decimated by M&M); ho-ho you have an unlimited quantity of hydras – I don’t care, coz I have 2 sieged tanks and blocked choke with invulnerable bunkers and after your hydra push will fail miserably I’ll steam roll you with my critical mass of mesh, etc. Horrible. we dont need people like you playing this wonderful game especially since zergs beat terran all the time | ||
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Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
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hi19hi19
United States163 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
On May 30 2010 16:13 o3.power91 wrote: Jaedong all the way. I would only agree to Flash being bonjwa if Flash fanboys agree to Jaedong being a bonjwa back when he was the clear favorite in every game he played. Deal. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On May 30 2010 16:23 Crazazyasian1337 wrote: flash clearly the top player on the scene at the moment, but his lose to effort shows that he is not a bonjwa like boxer and nada back in their respective days. Boxer lost quite some games in his day too. | ||
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saikeraku
Canada2933 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
I second this, I  Love both players nearly equal, I preferred JD back when he was like 85% Win vs Z, 70 on every other MU.At the moment I am preferring  Flash. | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On May 30 2010 16:27 flamewheel wrote: It's a tie. They both dominate. But I like Jaedong more, since he drew me into progaming. false! | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1548 Posts
haha^^ | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
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moopie
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
On May 31 2010 04:44 NuKedUFirst wrote: I second this, I Love both players nearly equal, I preferred JD back when he was like 85% Win vs Z, 70 on every other MU.At the moment I am preferring Flash.But Jaedong has no Modesty, look at his pre-Game interview (TL;DR Imma Win bitches, cuz im teh bomb). Further evidence for Flash's complete dominance is found here, look at the Last bit of the graph. Not a single person has  Ever qualified and finished at the End of 4 Major leagues in a row, but Flash has.In a Sense, Flash is more bonjwa than others past. | ||
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cognizantfire
Hong Kong77 Posts
He's a much more interesting person in interviews, and heck, he 5pools! You don't see Flash bunker rushing much, do you? Jaedong is more of a strategist, Flash more of a robot. | ||
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Fumi
529 Posts
On May 31 2010 07:35 cognizantfire wrote: You don't see Flash bunker rushing much, do you? I'm sorry, what? | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
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fevax
Turkey143 Posts
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NeCroPoTeNce
United States513 Posts
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
(not me) | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On May 31 2010 08:05 n.DieJokes wrote: So the bandwagon consists of roughly 10% of tl? the 10% of tl must post a lot. | ||
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Coraz
United States252 Posts
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XFire
United States131 Posts
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
ive loved the stars of Oz, anytime and jaedong. and forgg on his run to MSL gold stay loyal people, stay lyal | ||
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TitleRug
United States651 Posts
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sqwert
United States781 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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zerat00l
United States100 Posts
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Atrio
Philippines30 Posts
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NET
United States703 Posts
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
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imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
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_Angel_
Canada9 Posts
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
You are fan of a player whether he wins or loses | ||
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catabowl
United States815 Posts
Both these players are equal in strength. I voted for Flash b/c he won head-to-head most recently, but I think they are both even. | ||
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Believer
Sweden212 Posts
The Swarm prevails. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
And note Flash and JD have the most fantaic fanbases here at TL, and still | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On May 31 2010 06:17 Hot_Bid wrote: So interesting watching the bandwagon swing after the results lol To be honest though the question in the poll could be interpreted like "who do you think is better?". | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
I voted Flash both times. | ||
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cgerrr
Ukraine47 Posts
On May 31 2010 04:08 splcer wrote:we dont need people like you playing this wonderful game especially since zergs beat terran all the time So you’re referring to yourself in plural? o_0 I definitely don’t need remarks from someone like you. | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
On May 30 2010 15:54 EntertainMe wrote: Make Flash Bonjwa status poll next please! I want to see what the general census is on Tl.net regarding that matter. Flash lost to effort, no way he's a bonjwa... | ||
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Trogdor
United States158 Posts
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
I'm really hoping for a JD vs Flash rematch tonight (who isn't?). Flash got an opportunity for revenge after the NATE MSL finals in the Winner's League, Jaedong deserves the same. | ||
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bentnormal
112 Posts
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
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shalafi
394 Posts
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Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
On May 30 2010 16:44 Slow Motion wrote: Voted Flash in the last poll and will vote Flash again. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On May 30 2010 18:26 fallingdream wrote: Are you kidding me? Flash 2-0'd effort ( 2-3, 2 wins in a row ). That being said, your logic is, at least, retarded. You don't think a 3-0 is more important than a 2-0? Talk about retarded, can't even do arithmetic and subtraction. | ||
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
I votes Jaedong last time and I voted Jaedong this time and I'll continue to vote Jaedong Until he enters a sAviOr slump | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Who won in their last encounter, Jaedong or Flash. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On June 01 2010 03:50 DarkMatter_ wrote: I don't get what these polls are asking. Is it "who do you like more?" or "who do you think is going to win in their next meetup?" It's supposed to be ambiguous. Polling = trolling. | ||
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shinjin
United States398 Posts
then it happened voted flash always believe | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
Terran for life. You don't know how happy I was to see Flash beat Jaedong 3-0. He really deserved this after his catastrophic loss to Effort. I'm so happy for Terran. | ||
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
Still goin for JD. Jaedong Fighting!~ | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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Milkis
5003 Posts
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Neverhood
United States5388 Posts
1. He's better looking 2. He's more fun to watch ^in that order | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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Wi)nD
Canada719 Posts
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pronoob5
United States90 Posts
wow that MSL final was lame... idk what jaedong was doing but maybe he just choked. | ||
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Phisk
166 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
The 'bandwagoners' aren't surprising. What is surprising is that it's only a 10% swing to Flash. But 55-45 is still decent. There are simply many JD fans who don't wish to admit that Flash is the number one player atm (forget the B word - it's not important). | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On June 01 2010 16:48 Subversive wrote: The 'bandwagoners' aren't surprising. What is surprising is that it's only a 10% swing to Flash. But 55-45 is still decent. There are simply many JD fans who don't wish to admit that Flash is the number one player atm (forget the B word - it's not important). There are already a bunch of bandwagoners already on Flash's side so those wouldn't have been accounted for with these polls. | ||
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VarmVaffel
Norway378 Posts
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Minified
Singapore20 Posts
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Gnabgib
United States381 Posts
I enjoy watching Jaedong far more because zergs are more fun to watch. Terrans/Flash are slow and methodical, and imo, kinda boring. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On June 01 2010 19:11 Nightmarjoo wrote: Really hard to vote for Jaedong without being a die-hard fan given June's kespa rankings: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128741. Is that insane or what? What have those rankings to do with which player you prefer? | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
44 now. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + lols at Flash getting beaten by HiyA (my favourite Terran!) in the Ace game | ||
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
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motosuwa7098
United States2 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
The poll is worded vaguely and I choose to not interpret it as who I think is better or anything. I personally thought Flash should have been the favorite to win the MSL even after he lost to Effort. | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On June 01 2010 16:48 Subversive wrote: I thought the poll was "Who is favoured to win?" Seeing as the first poll was days before the final I thought it was clearly not "who do you like more" or else it would have simply stated that. Asking 'If you had to choose' days out from a final that most people consider will be closely fought between the number one and number two in the world implies to me at least Who Do You Think Is Going To Win. The 'bandwagoners' aren't surprising. What is surprising is that it's only a 10% swing to Flash. But 55-45 is still decent. There are simply many JD fans who don't wish to admit that Flash is the number one player atm (forget the B word - it's not important). I'm a jaedong fan since september 2007. I voted for jaedong in this poll. Flash is the number one player atm and has been since ~December 2009 imo. There are more of us than those who choose not to admit it. To me, "if you had to choose now?" is simply asking for preference and not who the better player is. Looking at how close this poll is, I speculate that many have interpreted the question in the same way. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On June 02 2010 01:49 Lucumo wrote: What have those rankings to do with which player you prefer? Poll doesn't specify that it's who you prefer, so for those who aren't die-hard Jaedong fans, ie they don't prefer him regardless of rankings, so for those voting who they think is better, the ranking heavily supports the notion that Flash is better than Jaedong at this point. | ||
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Getz
United States559 Posts
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malathion
United States361 Posts
On June 01 2010 16:48 Subversive wrote: I thought the poll was "Who is favoured to win?" Seeing as the first poll was days before the final I thought it was clearly not "who do you like more" or else it would have simply stated that. Asking 'If you had to choose' days out from a final that most people consider will be closely fought between the number one and number two in the world implies to me at least Who Do You Think Is Going To Win. The 'bandwagoners' aren't surprising. What is surprising is that it's only a 10% swing to Flash. But 55-45 is still decent. There are simply many JD fans who don't wish to admit that Flash is the number one player atm (forget the B word - it's not important). Voted Jaedong twice; Flash is clearly a better player lately but Jaedong's style is much more entertaining to me for some reason. That said, I really cannot believe anyone is arguing that Flash is not bonjwa. He's made it by every metric you could expect of a bonjwa during this time period. I think we should have been thinking about the B-word well beforehand, but there shouldn't have been any doubt once we knew he would final in two starleagues for the second time in a row. For instance, that someone said "he needed to win OSL" before he could be bonjwa apparently forgot that he's the first player ever to finals for two starleagues twice in a row at all. Boxer couldn't do it, Nada couldn't do it, but Flash did it. In the past few months Flash personally won the Winners League, set all-time win streaks against two races, and laid waste to nearly everything that appeared before his eyes in comical fashion. 78% win rate since Jan 1st with 89 games played (almost a game every other day)? Are you fucking kidding me? Perspective: at this point in 2004, iloveoov was at 68% for the year, his best 6-month performance of his career, and in a much much less competitive environment, and fewer games played. If that's not a bonjwa, nothing is. I'm a Jaedong fan up one side and down the other, but Flash is bonjwa if anyone ever was. There's hardly anything he could have accomplished in the last year that he hasn't. You don't have to be a fanboy to know that. | ||
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Raol
Romania56 Posts
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Furaha
Germany271 Posts
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FearDarkness
United States519 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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XiMeAoW
United States13 Posts
Jaedong all the way. | ||
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lu_cid
United States428 Posts
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nimbim
Germany983 Posts
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muta_micro
United States183 Posts
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