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[Spoilers] MSL/OSL Finals Statistical Overview

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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 02:49:28
May 30 2010 12:19 GMT
#1
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FINALS
A Statistical Review


With the recent excitement of the tournament league finale among the loyal Broodwar fans, I’ve taken liberty to compile some numerical data on the history of the OSL and MSL finals. The data I used is all available on TLPD and Liquipedia. I’ve made no analysis on them; I just chewed up, digested, and crapped out some statistics and player achievements as far as the finals go. Both leagues were considered; I have also included Progamer Korea Open and the KPGA Tours.

There isn’t much of actual content in this thread, unfortunately. I also do not know how to display tables and I even failed at lining up data in columns, since multiple spaces don’t register; so I just posted images. Please bear with the ugliness. Any mistakes you see or suggestions you may have, I will be glad if you bring them up. I intend to update, modify, and expand this page in the future… seeing as we have Bigfile being nice to us BW fans. Unless, of course, this thread gets closed.

Enjoy.




.............................................................General Results.............................................................



Table 1: Number of final appearances by race. Number of first and second place finishes by race.
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Table 2: Win percentages in the finals by race in the 3 match-ups.
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Table 3: Number of mirror matches by race.
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Table 4: Number of finals by match results.
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Table 5: Terran winner. Match results by match-up.
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Table 6: Zerg winner. Match results by match-up.
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Table 7: Protoss winner. Match results by match-up.
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Match results we have never seen in the finals yet:
T (3:0) T
T (3:1) T
Z (3:0) T
Z (3:2) P
P (3:1) Z
P (3:0) P

Match results we have seen in the finals too many times:
T (3:0) Z
T (3:2) Z
Z (3:1) P



........................................................Player Specific Results........................................................


Table 8: Finals appearance and place by players. [ordered by appearance>wins>alphabetical]
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Graph 1: Chronology of final appearances by players. [only players with 4 or more appearances shown]
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Table(s) 9: Final match results by players. [only players with 4 or more appearances shown]
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Notable Players in the Finals


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If you have been following Starcraft since its dawn, then you have seen Nada competing in individual league finals all too many times. Participating in an unbelievable 10 final matches over his career, and winning 6 of them, Nada has solidified his position as a Starcraft legend.


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Nada and Boxer also hold the record for the amount of time passing between their first final appearances (June 22nd, 2002 and May 5th, 2001 respectively) and last final appearances (February 24th, 2007 and November 5th, 2005 respectively). Nada extended his individual league domination over 4 years and 8 months, while Boxer displayed individual league prowess over a period of 4 years and 6 months. Note: this does not include their participation in the leagues before or after those points – just the final appearances are considered.


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iloveoov has never lost in an OSL/MSL final. As the creator of numerous terran opening builds, the strategic genius and macro monster has always come out on top out of the 5 finals he participated in. This player wins the tournament not when his opponent types in ‘gg’ for the third time that night – but when iloveoov qualifies for the finals.


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Yellow has never won in an OSL/MSL final. Although Yellow was the zerg player at the time, he never managed to pull it together out of the 5 attempts at gold he has made, earning him the nickname ‘King of Silver’. So if you ever find yourself qualifying for an individual league final and Yellow is your opponent – kick back, relax, visit Thailand; Yellow will likely roll over for you on the night of the finals.


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Everyone by now knows this; Flash has appeared in an unbelievable 6 individual league finals in a row (both MSL and OSL thrice), winning 4 of them. Such a feat has never been accomplished – and he will likely extend his dominance in this regard in the near future.


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Flash and Jaedong hold the record for the fiercest rivalry in all of Broodwar. These players have played each other in the finals of OSL/MSL 4 times.



Edit 30/5/2010 - Updated MSL inconsistency



"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
May 30 2010 12:24 GMT
#2
Nice. great read
Considering learning BW
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
May 30 2010 12:25 GMT
#3
Very nice. Thank you for this. One more confirmation that Nada is the greatest ever.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
May 30 2010 12:27 GMT
#4
Nice analysis, it really highlights how long Nada in particular has been around, and definitely helps put the BW scene in larger context. Thanks!
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17732 Posts
May 30 2010 12:27 GMT
#5
rofl 5-0 for oov and 0-5 for yellow
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valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
May 30 2010 12:27 GMT
#6
Wow awesome, thanks!
ggaemo fan
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 30 2010 12:27 GMT
#7
Very nice writeup, interesting statistics, the graph (with the chronology of final appearances) is especially spectacular and informative, gj!
BW fighting!
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 12:36:03
May 30 2010 12:29 GMT
#8
Gorush vs Nada finals was a bo7.

Thanks for compiling the data and presenting it. Seems like Savior and Jaedong are good at 3-1ing, and the interesting tid bit is that all the 3 players with 3 golds have 1 3-0, 1 3-1, 1 3-2. I thought that was kind of interesting.

Your list doesnt include Mumyung, who has 1(maybe 2? does the KPGA winners count) MSL medal.

T>Z and Z>P and P=T. Poor tosses T__T.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
May 30 2010 12:30 GMT
#9
this is great! nice writeup
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 30 2010 12:30 GMT
#10
wow so much info.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
May 30 2010 12:33 GMT
#11
yellow makes me cry
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
May 30 2010 12:36 GMT
#12
Makes me rage.

Damn I hate Terran so much. I have zero repsect for Flash's MSL win.
#1 Terran hater
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
May 30 2010 12:44 GMT
#13
protoss ( we need balance!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 30 2010 12:44 GMT
#14
Nada is the G.O.A.T
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 30 2010 12:55 GMT
#15
Where is the Dong in your notable list?

I can understand drop kicking the Maestro but The Dongalisk is the second winningest player. :-p
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Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
May 30 2010 12:57 GMT
#16
The Stout MSL final between Nal_rA and Nada was actually a Bo3, so Nada didn't get 3-0'd :p
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
May 30 2010 13:01 GMT
#17
On May 30 2010 21:55 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Where is the Dong in your notable list?

I can understand drop kicking the Maestro but The Dongalisk is the second winningest player. :-p


I guess JD just isn't too special with respect to appearances in finals...
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
May 30 2010 13:02 GMT
#18
Nada <3

And I never realised it but it makes me happy to see Jaedong have surpassed savior
In)Spire
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1323 Posts
May 30 2010 13:13 GMT
#19
LOL YELLOW
stambe
Profile Joined May 2005
Bulgaria492 Posts
May 30 2010 13:47 GMT
#20
On May 30 2010 21:57 Jonvvv wrote:
The Stout MSL final between Nal_rA and Nada was actually a Bo3, so Nada didn't get 3-0'd :p


Wow, are you sure about that ? I mean were there other finals using the BO3 format instead of BO5 in the MSL OSL and theri predecessors ?
Valks rulzz
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