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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 31 2010 15:42 GMT
#81
On May 31 2010 06:18 Art.FeeL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 05:48 Holgerius wrote:
On May 31 2010 01:35 SuperArc wrote:
On May 31 2010 01:26 DatTheMighty wrote:
jaedongs back to back osl is pretty important, his will broke the curse.


oh right, back to back OSLs!!!
Not even Flash managed to get that.

JD>Flash (back to back OSL wins, Golden Mouse, Royal Road)

JD never got dual finals, something Flash did twice. JD never broke 2400 ELO, whereas Flash has been over 2400 pretty much all the time for months now. JD never had all his MU's above 70% (his ZvT is down to a measly 61% now), and Flash has the Kespa point record.
JD still has the lead in number of titles. That's a strong argument as to why he's the greatest and as of right now I would agree with that, but Flash has done several things JD never did and considering he's younger, has been a progamer for less time and is the currently clear #1 on the scene, that is a fact that could very well be changed in a couple of seasons (while JD will never get close to a 70% winrate in ZvT for instance).



maybe coz its ZvT and not TvZ for JD

[ ]The maps were gay.
[ ]Power outage.
[ ]His race is imba.
[ ]Cheeseing motherfucker.
[ ]He did stupid shit that won him the game.
[ ]BO victory.
[ ]Someone signaled him from the crowd.
[ ]Got lucky.
[x]The mu is unfair.
[ ]Boxer won.
[ ]Is a noob.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 15:47:43
May 31 2010 15:47 GMT
#82
On May 31 2010 07:03 okum wrote:
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On May 31 2010 06:58 SuperArc wrote:
I wonder if KTR will try to buy Effort next?

He beat Flash AND won an OSL. :p

KT need a winningful zerg so badly >_<

No way they'll get Effort though. They should've snatched Kwanro while he was on the move.

Kwanro would slump badly after practicing with Flash hehe
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 31 2010 15:51 GMT
#83
Thanks for this
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
May 31 2010 16:38 GMT
#84
On May 30 2010 21:25 mdb wrote:
Very nice. Thank you for this. One more confirmation that Nada is the greatest ever.


Yeah and that JD is #2 ever
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:11:10
May 31 2010 17:09 GMT
#85
On May 31 2010 06:45 lebalebaleba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 02:19 J1.au wrote:
On May 31 2010 01:35 SuperArc wrote:
On May 31 2010 01:26 DatTheMighty wrote:
jaedongs back to back osl is pretty important, his will broke the curse.


oh right, back to back OSLs!!!
Not even Flash managed to get that.

JD>Flash (back to back OSL wins, Golden Mouse, Royal Road)

In terms of greatest record, Nada>Jaedong (most SL wins, Golden Mouse, Golden Badge, Royal Road).

Right now, Flash>Jaedong (KeSPA rank, ELO rank, Power Rank, MSL finals, win record, back to back dual finals).

+ Show Spoiler +
From the MSL finals pre-game on stage interview:
Commentators: Jaedong - who do you think is the best player right now?
Jaedong: I always play and think I am the best. (cheers) Honestly the best player will be determined at the end of today's game and I'll make sure that is me.

reading this just makes me angry because you're so biased towards flash.

they're both great players, and everyone knows they say that shit in the finals to pump the fans up. dont be idiotic, you make all flash fans seem like douches.

Right now Flash is better than Jaedong. Could this change? Yes, and when it does I am more than prepared to admit it.

Also Jaedong was 100% serious when he said that. After his MSL loss, I'm sure he sees Flash as the current top player. However this only makes Jaedong more dangerous as he will work harder to catch up.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 31 2010 18:08 GMT
#86
On June 01 2010 00:42 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 06:18 Art.FeeL wrote:
On May 31 2010 05:48 Holgerius wrote:
On May 31 2010 01:35 SuperArc wrote:
On May 31 2010 01:26 DatTheMighty wrote:
jaedongs back to back osl is pretty important, his will broke the curse.


oh right, back to back OSLs!!!
Not even Flash managed to get that.

JD>Flash (back to back OSL wins, Golden Mouse, Royal Road)

JD never got dual finals, something Flash did twice. JD never broke 2400 ELO, whereas Flash has been over 2400 pretty much all the time for months now. JD never had all his MU's above 70% (his ZvT is down to a measly 61% now), and Flash has the Kespa point record.
JD still has the lead in number of titles. That's a strong argument as to why he's the greatest and as of right now I would agree with that, but Flash has done several things JD never did and considering he's younger, has been a progamer for less time and is the currently clear #1 on the scene, that is a fact that could very well be changed in a couple of seasons (while JD will never get close to a 70% winrate in ZvT for instance).



maybe coz its ZvT and not TvZ for JD

[ ]The maps were gay.
[ ]Power outage.
[ ]His race is imba.
[ ]Cheeseing motherfucker.
[ ]He did stupid shit that won him the game.
[ ]BO victory.
[ ]Someone signaled him from the crowd.
[ ]Got lucky.
[x]The mu is unfair.
[ ]Boxer won.
[ ]Is a noob.

I dont think even you can argue against facts though
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
May 31 2010 18:19 GMT
#87
This was a very quality post. Lots of good information, thanks! And NaDa 10 finals... never ceases to be amazing.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
us.insurgency
Profile Joined March 2010
United States330 Posts
May 31 2010 19:17 GMT
#88
You cant look at these stats to show if it is balanced. They arent (but close) robots. Their practice schedules, practice partners, and talent are all didfferent so its more the player then the race. The results in experiments are hardly exactly what the mathematical hypothesis states.
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