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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
May 18 2010 15:12 GMT
#481
On May 18 2010 21:24 StylishVODs wrote:
Well I'm not sure you can pull mindgames in a bo1...


In a Bo5, it's mindgames. In a Bo1, it's cheese.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 18 2010 17:14 GMT
#482
On May 18 2010 21:08 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2010 18:27 StylishVODs wrote:
After watching both of Flash's losses yesterday I'm not that worried about Flash.
It seems like he lost two games where he got really abysmal openings.

I don't want to take away anything from the winners, they played good. But as a terran myself I know how hard it is to win games after such openings. 1rax FE completely delayed and valk opening + first dropship sniped (by scourge ment for valk) is just really, really bad openings.

I'm sure Flash realized this even though he looked really dissapointed.


well both times CJ mindgames 2 - Flash 0 and in the finals against Movie Flash was behind in BOs all the time too.

So if CJ manage to achieve the same feat in the finals again this will be a very hard fought golden mouse. No 3-0 rape at all.

I am not saying Effort will beat Flash, just that Flash will surely have to spend his best builds against Effort which is going to leave him wide open for Calm/JD.


I dunno about that.

Flash has lately shown a scary ability to mind rape opponents in a Bo5. He's always been able to do this somewhat but his last Bo5's have shown just how much better he's gotten at it.

In that department Flash is second only to Jaedong...assuming his mind games aren't a "3 time fluke"
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland236 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-18 18:15:57
May 18 2010 18:14 GMT
#483
Flash should have never gone mech too..
Even on maps that favours this build -_-
EX CATHEDRA!
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
May 18 2010 20:35 GMT
#484
On May 18 2010 22:57 TwoToneTerran wrote:
It was like the Hyun game. Opened up very well with an advantage, and played incredibly well to stop Flash from wresting it away from them with his nearly impeccable general skill. It's what separates Effort from, say, Kwanro, who had the exact same advantage one time and blew it away.

or kal if u disregard that its pvt instead of zvt
not diminishing kal's other skills just that his pvt isnt enough to beat flash even with a massive advantage
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
protossfighter
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3 Posts
May 19 2010 01:12 GMT
#485
What happened to Stork? I thought he was up there...
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
May 19 2010 02:10 GMT
#486
On May 18 2010 21:24 StylishVODs wrote:
Well I'm not sure you can pull mindgames in a bo1...

Both effort and snow played very well indeed, it's going to be really hard to win both leagues. But after reading the live report threads and the "how to beat flash" thread without having seen the games I didn't get a clear view of what was really going on.
Now that I've watched the games I'm not at all surprised Flash lost those games.


I agree, they weren't really mind games. More like, "we know Flash likes to play this way on this map so let's hope that happens and prepare for it".

I wouldn't bet heavily on Flash going 1 Rax FE on Fighting in an OSL/MSL game, but for an ace match in PL (a game that isn't even guaranteed to occur and could be against an opponent of any race)? Seems like a good bet for his most likely build.

I fully expect Flash to come out guns blazing in the finals with some different builds, kind of like how he dominated the mind games against MVP and free. There'll be at least one cheese, with the most likely one being on Great Barrier Reef which is an OSL only map as well as a weird map in general.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 05:35:24
May 19 2010 05:24 GMT
#487
Next month's anti power rank:

1. (Z)815
2. (Z)Killer
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
BobbYt3hBobbY
Profile Joined December 2008
256 Posts
May 19 2010 05:39 GMT
#488
Please don't forget (T)Lomo.

So we get
1. (Z)815
2. (Z)Killer
3. (T)Lomo
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
May 19 2010 05:39 GMT
#489
On May 19 2010 14:24 okum wrote:
Next month's anti power rank:

1. (Z)815
2. (Z)Killer


Nah just put every Oz player in it excluding Jaedong of course.

With Perfectman and Killer on top.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 19 2010 07:07 GMT
#490
On May 19 2010 14:39 BobbYt3hBobbY wrote:
Please don't forget (T)Lomo.

So we get
1. (Z)815
2. (Z)Killer
3. (T)Lomo

+ Show Spoiler +
Nah, Lomo didn't fail as hard as the other two, who had free wins.
GANDHISAUCE
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8071 Posts
May 19 2010 09:18 GMT
#491
815's game today was so horrible.

When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!"

*single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base"
....

"Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive"
*camera shows 815 still on lair*

FMLLLLLLLLL.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 12:14:49
May 19 2010 09:36 GMT
#492
Snow should have deserved a PR spot after today's game.
One of the reasons I really love Snow is he doesn't go 12nex.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 11:27:09
May 19 2010 11:26 GMT
#493
On May 19 2010 18:18 Vasoline73 wrote:
815's game today was so horrible.

When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!"

*single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base"
....

"Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive"
*camera shows 815 still on lair*

FMLLLLLLLLL.


815 is Savior's clone.

Savior stayed on lair tech a whole game against a Bio terran player too during the qualifications for individual league. He went some type of hydra/ling build. (forgot if it was MSL or OSL) SAVIOR GOT ROLLED that game.

GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 19 2010 16:31 GMT
#494
On May 19 2010 18:18 Vasoline73 wrote:
815's game today was so horrible.

When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!"

*single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base"
....

"Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive"
*camera shows 815 still on lair*

FMLLLLLLLLL.


Oh god I couldn't stop laughing.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 19 2010 17:23 GMT
#495
On May 19 2010 20:26 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 18:18 Vasoline73 wrote:
815's game today was so horrible.

When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!"

*single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base"
....

"Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive"
*camera shows 815 still on lair*

FMLLLLLLLLL.


815 is Savior's clone.

Savior stayed on lair tech a whole game against a Bio terran player too during the qualifications for individual league. He went some type of hydra/ling build. (forgot if it was MSL or OSL) SAVIOR GOT ROLLED that game.



Uhm, are you basing all of Savior's style on one game you watched? You do realize that Savior was well known for his Hive tech play don't you?
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 20 2010 10:42 GMT
#496
Lee Jae Dong, tonight Calm's micro was on par with JD's, but JD's decision making and builds completely raped the Brain zerg...

Flash and Jaedong - the most perfect players ever to play SC:BW. This final is the greatest thing that could have happened to a SC fan.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
May 20 2010 10:43 GMT
#497
god i hope this final doesnt get messed up

seriously, that was unreal. i never thought i could see that much skill and diversity in ZvZ
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 20 2010 10:46 GMT
#498
Winner of Flash vs JD for no1 PR

Nothing else can do justice.

Unless ofc both JD and Flash play horribly and Effort plays like a beast and 3-0s Flash.(i.e not going to happen)
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
May 20 2010 10:47 GMT
#499
i think if flash beats effort and loses to jaedong you gotta keep him at #1, unless it's close with effort and a rape with jaedong. no real comparison two finals vs one final although jaedong looks like he is really, legitimately back.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 20 2010 10:52 GMT
#500
And there I thought Jaedong reached his peak in the last MSL finals...

Imo a simple 1-10 ranking just doesn't do justice to Flash and Jaedong. And unless Effort really really puts up a incredibly huge fight leave #3 open again.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
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