On May 18 2010 21:24 StylishVODs wrote:
Well I'm not sure you can pull mindgames in a bo1...
Well I'm not sure you can pull mindgames in a bo1...
In a Bo5, it's mindgames. In a Bo1, it's cheese.
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On May 18 2010 21:24 StylishVODs wrote: Well I'm not sure you can pull mindgames in a bo1... In a Bo5, it's mindgames. In a Bo1, it's cheese. | ||
Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On May 18 2010 21:08 SuperArc wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2010 18:27 StylishVODs wrote: After watching both of Flash's losses yesterday I'm not that worried about Flash. It seems like he lost two games where he got really abysmal openings. I don't want to take away anything from the winners, they played good. But as a terran myself I know how hard it is to win games after such openings. 1rax FE completely delayed and valk opening + first dropship sniped (by scourge ment for valk) is just really, really bad openings. I'm sure Flash realized this even though he looked really dissapointed. well both times CJ mindgames 2 - Flash 0 and in the finals against Movie Flash was behind in BOs all the time too. So if CJ manage to achieve the same feat in the finals again this will be a very hard fought golden mouse. No 3-0 rape at all. I am not saying Effort will beat Flash, just that Flash will surely have to spend his best builds against Effort which is going to leave him wide open for Calm/JD. I dunno about that. Flash has lately shown a scary ability to mind rape opponents in a Bo5. He's always been able to do this somewhat but his last Bo5's have shown just how much better he's gotten at it. In that department Flash is second only to Jaedong...assuming his mind games aren't a "3 time fluke" | ||
DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
Even on maps that favours this build -_- | ||
pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On May 18 2010 22:57 TwoToneTerran wrote: It was like the Hyun game. Opened up very well with an advantage, and played incredibly well to stop Flash from wresting it away from them with his nearly impeccable general skill. It's what separates Effort from, say, Kwanro, who had the exact same advantage one time and blew it away. or kal if u disregard that its pvt instead of zvt not diminishing kal's other skills just that his pvt isnt enough to beat flash even with a massive advantage | ||
protossfighter
United States3 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On May 18 2010 21:24 StylishVODs wrote: Well I'm not sure you can pull mindgames in a bo1... Both effort and snow played very well indeed, it's going to be really hard to win both leagues. But after reading the live report threads and the "how to beat flash" thread without having seen the games I didn't get a clear view of what was really going on. Now that I've watched the games I'm not at all surprised Flash lost those games. I agree, they weren't really mind games. More like, "we know Flash likes to play this way on this map so let's hope that happens and prepare for it". I wouldn't bet heavily on Flash going 1 Rax FE on Fighting in an OSL/MSL game, but for an ace match in PL (a game that isn't even guaranteed to occur and could be against an opponent of any race)? Seems like a good bet for his most likely build. I fully expect Flash to come out guns blazing in the finals with some different builds, kind of like how he dominated the mind games against MVP and free. There'll be at least one cheese, with the most likely one being on Great Barrier Reef which is an OSL only map as well as a weird map in general. | ||
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
Nah just put every Oz player in it excluding Jaedong of course. With Perfectman and Killer on top. | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Nah, Lomo didn't fail as hard as the other two, who had free wins. | ||
Vasoline73
United States7747 Posts
When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!" *single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base" .... "Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive" *camera shows 815 still on lair* FMLLLLLLLLL. | ||
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
One of the reasons I really love Snow is he doesn't go 12nex. | ||
Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On May 19 2010 18:18 Vasoline73 wrote: 815's game today was so horrible. When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!" *single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base" .... "Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive" *camera shows 815 still on lair* FMLLLLLLLLL. 815 is Savior's clone. Savior stayed on lair tech a whole game against a Bio terran player too during the qualifications for individual league. He went some type of hydra/ling build. (forgot if it was MSL or OSL) SAVIOR GOT ROLLED that game. | ||
Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On May 19 2010 18:18 Vasoline73 wrote: 815's game today was so horrible. When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!" *single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base" .... "Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive" *camera shows 815 still on lair* FMLLLLLLLLL. Oh god I couldn't stop laughing. | ||
Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On May 19 2010 20:26 Silentness wrote: Show nested quote + On May 19 2010 18:18 Vasoline73 wrote: 815's game today was so horrible. When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!" *single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base" .... "Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive" *camera shows 815 still on lair* FMLLLLLLLLL. 815 is Savior's clone. Savior stayed on lair tech a whole game against a Bio terran player too during the qualifications for individual league. He went some type of hydra/ling build. (forgot if it was MSL or OSL) SAVIOR GOT ROLLED that game. Uhm, are you basing all of Savior's style on one game you watched? You do realize that Savior was well known for his Hive tech play don't you? | ||
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Flash and Jaedong - the most perfect players ever to play SC:BW. This final is the greatest thing that could have happened to a SC fan. | ||
o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
seriously, that was unreal. i never thought i could see that much skill and diversity in ZvZ | ||
samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
Nothing else can do justice. Unless ofc both JD and Flash play horribly and Effort plays like a beast and 3-0s Flash.(i.e not going to happen) | ||
o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Imo a simple 1-10 ranking just doesn't do justice to Flash and Jaedong. And unless Effort really really puts up a incredibly huge fight leave #3 open again. | ||
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