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On May 16 2010 01:48 SuperArc wrote:
Flash's Bo5 statistics:
vP 9-1
vZ 3-4
vT 3-1
Wow I never knew that not counting the losses to JD Flash's bo5 record is as scary as JD's.
Those two are really something else.
Jaedong's Bo5 statistics:
vP 7-1
vZ 2-1
vT 10-1
Jaedong's Bo5 stats are monsterous
wow
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On May 16 2010 10:25 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2010 01:48 SuperArc wrote:
Flash's Bo5 statistics:
vP 9-1
vZ 3-4
vT 3-1
Wow I never knew that not counting the losses to JD Flash's bo5 record is as scary as JD's.
Those two are really something else.
Jaedong's Bo5 statistics:
vP 7-1
vZ 2-1
vT 10-1 Jaedong's Bo5 stats are monsterous wow
Kinda funny how the ones he lost are to Forgg, Calm, and Rock(WTF).
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What the hell is wrong with Sea btw, he is so incredibly high on ELO but doesn't manage to get an overall win, does he?
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On May 15 2010 02:18 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2010 01:59 SuperArc wrote:On May 15 2010 00:38 Lebesgue wrote:On May 14 2010 20:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Best case scenario for Jaedong incoming. If Flash wants a golden mouse he's gonna have to pull out all of his stops for Effort, exposing himself greatly for Jaedong. If only there were a second terran that was even mediocre in a Bo5 that Jaedong could play. =(
Unfortunately this is true. But I hope that Flash will prepare different starts for OSL and MSL. In the end the map pool is different and also Flash hasn't played TvZ for ages so he must have some aces in his sleeve. But it would be good for him if Jaedong plays lots of ZvTs in proleague especially in the ace games when there is a pressure to win so he has to show everything he has. Oz final three matches are vs CJ, estro, MBC. MBC is the only team with good TvZ terrans. Flash on the other hand has to play vs CJ, estro and Hite. CJ and estro are pretty zerg heavy. Even Pl games are against Flash. He will certainly be God Young Ho if he manages to win both finals. Well, he's actually God Young Ho just for getting there two times in a row.
I'm sure you would quickly drop this stance if he lost both finals and was 1-3 in 4 finals.
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hard to deny effort is looking very good
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god
I love people knowing nothing claiming I know nothing hahaha.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On May 15 2010 06:57 tree.hugger wrote:Everything has turned out well for  EffOrt, and he's a likely top 5 for the next month's rank unless he gets absolutely wrecked by Flash (trust me, won't happen) or fails in proleague (also unlikely).
On May 15 2010 08:33 o[twist] wrote:
lol "trust me, won't happen" somehow i actually don't trust your judgment as objective regarding effort tree.hugger
On May 15 2010 15:25 tree.hugger wrote:I know that I'm a huge EffOrt fan, but I know the difference between reality and my rose-tinted fan glasses. EffOrt is no slouch, everyone should agree on that, and what with the time for preparation, the nature of the match-up, and the fact that he has been known to posses S-class ZvT, I can't imagine  Flash will be able to coast like he did against our good-but-not-great protoss friends, Free and Pure.
On May 15 2010 15:36 o[twist] wrote:
flash went 5-1 against calm and jaedong last osl - gonna go ahead and say flash v. effort is likely to look a LOT v. free or v. pure. also, i can't help but lol at the idea that free and pure are "good-but-not-great" next to the mammoth player that is effort
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On May 16 2010 13:25 o[twist] wrote:
hard to deny effort is looking very good
1. Open mouth
2. Insert foot
+ Show Spoiler +No hard feelings, I'm just euphoric right now, and have made enough really stupid predictions to know that it means nothing. Looking forward to a great finals!
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lol yeah yeah. we'll see how the finals actually turn out - hopefully flash doesn't go mech or throw away rines, hopefully effort doesn't drop on mines or throw away ultras - lots of sexy stuff in that game as i said in the thread - early scourge kills and tech switch were the ones i liked best
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On May 16 2010 12:16 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2010 02:18 Holgerius wrote:On May 15 2010 01:59 SuperArc wrote:On May 15 2010 00:38 Lebesgue wrote:On May 14 2010 20:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Best case scenario for Jaedong incoming. If Flash wants a golden mouse he's gonna have to pull out all of his stops for Effort, exposing himself greatly for Jaedong. If only there were a second terran that was even mediocre in a Bo5 that Jaedong could play. =(
Unfortunately this is true. But I hope that Flash will prepare different starts for OSL and MSL. In the end the map pool is different and also Flash hasn't played TvZ for ages so he must have some aces in his sleeve. But it would be good for him if Jaedong plays lots of ZvTs in proleague especially in the ace games when there is a pressure to win so he has to show everything he has. Oz final three matches are vs CJ, estro, MBC. MBC is the only team with good TvZ terrans. Flash on the other hand has to play vs CJ, estro and Hite. CJ and estro are pretty zerg heavy. Even Pl games are against Flash. He will certainly be God Young Ho if he manages to win both finals. Well, he's actually God Young Ho just for getting there two times in a row. I'm sure you would quickly drop this stance if he lost both finals and was 1-3 in 4 finals.
Absolutely not. Getting to dual finals 2 season in a row is one of the most epic things ever achieved by a progamer, even if he would've lost all of them. Seriously.
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That would be funny if Effort beat Flash and Jaedong lost. I wonder what that would do to the rankings.
But the opposite result is far more likely.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
First person to say the 's' word
+ Show Spoiler +in relation to Flash should get a ban. Alright, he lost twice to an excellent player, and excellent preparation and execution. Flash is mortal, but he's also an excellent player, and a deserved #1 right now. CJ pretty much the only team that could've pulled that off.
That said, some excellent play from the junior CJ protoss and the senior CJ zerg.
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Plexa = owned!!
I told you, Snow deserves at least CBNC!!
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It took me one look at Flash's TLPD page to make me forget all about the 2 losses today. 
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On May 16 2010 16:40 Holgerius wrote:It took me one look at Flash's TLPD page to make me forget all about the 2 losses today.
KT won't forget that loss a long time. 
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On May 16 2010 16:42 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2010 16:40 Holgerius wrote:It took me one look at Flash's TLPD page to make me forget all about the 2 losses today. KT won't forget that loss a long time.
I'm 95% Flash fan and 5% KT fan, I won't lose any sleep over it. Flash is still God Young Ho, I'm all happy.
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Wow, i woke up to this! Too bad I can't watch the games live coz they start 05:00 or so...
Seems to me like effort did good and flash surviving longer than he should after valk opening vs lurkers.
kind of like kwanro, but effort>kwanro
This could be a great finals!
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On May 16 2010 09:58 Lebesgue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2010 03:57 TwoToneTerran wrote:On May 16 2010 03:25 SuperArc wrote:On May 16 2010 03:18 nodule wrote:
Flash's strongest (and probably most confident) matchup right now is TvP. He just doesn't lose games, ever.
His TvZ, even in the prime of the last OSL run, still dropped a game to Calm & Kwanro in the respective bo5's Yeah, but Flash has stated in every of his interviews that TvZ is his most confident one. But yeah I always thought TvP is his best matchup (except during the time where he just turtled off 2-3 bases and waited for the dragons to mass expand against him) Probably a really big difference when you practice with Violet and Stats than when you practice with Firefist and Hoejja. I think that's why Flash believes his TvP is weak. He often mentions that he losses a lot during practice to Stats and Violet. And I can imagine he just sweeps through the KT Zergs. But I also guess that he practices a lot with people outside of his team so I guess he can judge his TvZ quite well.
Source ? Imo he never said that during interviews, in fact, he only mentioned his winrate once (The 79-1 thingie)
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On May 16 2010 18:38 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2010 09:58 Lebesgue wrote:On May 16 2010 03:57 TwoToneTerran wrote:On May 16 2010 03:25 SuperArc wrote:On May 16 2010 03:18 nodule wrote:
Flash's strongest (and probably most confident) matchup right now is TvP. He just doesn't lose games, ever.
His TvZ, even in the prime of the last OSL run, still dropped a game to Calm & Kwanro in the respective bo5's Yeah, but Flash has stated in every of his interviews that TvZ is his most confident one. But yeah I always thought TvP is his best matchup (except during the time where he just turtled off 2-3 bases and waited for the dragons to mass expand against him) Probably a really big difference when you practice with Violet and Stats than when you practice with Firefist and Hoejja. I think that's why Flash believes his TvP is weak. He often mentions that he losses a lot during practice to Stats and Violet. And I can imagine he just sweeps through the KT Zergs. But I also guess that he practices a lot with people outside of his team so I guess he can judge his TvZ quite well. Source ? Imo he never said that during interviews, in fact, he only mentioned his winrate once (The 79-1 thingie)
Flash
- It seems you’ll never lose to protoss.
▲ Personally, I feel that my tvp is my weakest matchup. During practice, losing isn’t infrequent but for some strange reason, during my actual live matches things always seem to work out. I do believe compared to my other matchups tvp is my weakest, but this might just be because my team’s protoss are very strong.
[Interview] Korean Air OSL 2010 Semifinal A Winner
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Since we have people who speculate that if Flash wins both finals he's gonna be God Young Ho.
What if both Effort and Jaedong go undefeated this month? (I know there is like a 0.1% chance Flash gets 0-3ed twice, but let a fanboy dream)
What are we going to call them?
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On May 16 2010 19:23 SuperArc wrote:
Since we have people who speculate that if Flash wins both finals he's gonna be God Young Ho.
What if both Effort and Jaedong go undefeated this month? (I know there is like a 0.1% chance Flash gets 0-3ed twice, but let a fanboy dream)
What are we going to call them?
we'll call jaedong the most accomplished player in starcraft history and we'll call effort an osl winner
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