EPTPower Rank 05/03/2010 - Page 15
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WWJDD
India342 Posts
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On May 11 2010 07:30 WWJDD wrote: Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league. You're trolling hard. Flash 51 wins - 7 losses Jaedong 38 wins - 18 losses The difference is significant, not to mention the actual games behind those results. No one says JD is slumping, but Flash is clearly the better player atm. In case I misinterpreted your post, I apologize. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On May 11 2010 09:06 Mooncat wrote: You're trolling hard. Flash 51 wins - 7 losses Jaedong 38 wins - 18 losses The difference is significant, not to mention the actual games behind those results. No one says JD is slumping, but Flash is clearly the better player atm. In case I misinterpreted your post, I apologize. Actually there were lots of people saying JD was slumping | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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nodule
Canada931 Posts
On May 11 2010 09:06 Mooncat wrote: You're trolling hard. Flash 51 wins - 7 losses Jaedong 38 wins - 18 losses The difference is significant, not to mention the actual games behind those results. No one says JD is slumping, but Flash is clearly the better player atm. In case I misinterpreted your post, I apologize. JD is playing well, but the difference between Flash and JD statwise is huge, not just significant. JD: 68% winrate; he loses one game for every ~2 he wins Flash: 88% winrate; he loses one game for every ~7 he wins i.e., Flash's performance is about three times better than Jaedong's according to these stats. "win rate" is a very deceptive statistic, since it doesn't corollate linearly with performance. Going from 60 to 70% is good, but it is much much more impressive and difficult to go from 80 to 90%, since you are halving the number of losses. btw, the "wins per loss" stat can be calculated from win% easily: 1/(1 - win%) - 1. It is actually a quite good general-purpose "power" statistic, in that you could say that someone with 2 times this stat is roughly twice as good. It also has nice properties, like that someone with a 50% winrate has "power" 1.0, and all 0-50% winrates fall between 0. and 1.0. tl;dr JD plays 10 games and loses 3; Flash playes 10 games and loses 1.2. This is a huge difference | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
Effort might make it to CNBC any day now  disappointed in Stork Appalled at MVP being on PR | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
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Lazerbeems
151 Posts
On May 11 2010 07:30 WWJDD wrote: Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league. He was slumping for a little while losing to every zerg and terran on the face of the planet but hey I wouldn't expect someone with the handle "What would Jaedong do" to be reasonable in any sort of way when it comes to Jaedong. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
Chill with the ad hominem. | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
meh where did that feature go, i enjoyed that. it's harder doing it in my head lol | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Resurgence from swarm season? | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5606 Posts
On May 11 2010 11:16 nodule wrote: JD is playing well, but the difference between Flash and JD statwise is huge, not just significant. JD: 68% winrate; he loses one game for every ~2 he wins Flash: 88% winrate; he loses one game for every ~7 he wins i.e., Flash's performance is about three times better than Jaedong's according to these stats. "win rate" is a very deceptive statistic, since it doesn't corollate linearly with performance. Going from 60 to 70% is good, but it is much much more impressive and difficult to go from 80 to 90%, since you are halving the number of losses. btw, the "wins per loss" stat can be calculated from win% easily: 1/(1 - win%) - 1. It is actually a quite good general-purpose "power" statistic, in that you could say that someone with 2 times this stat is roughly twice as good. It also has nice properties, like that someone with a 50% winrate has "power" 1.0, and all 0-50% winrates fall between 0. and 1.0. tl;dr JD plays 10 games and loses 3; Flash playes 10 games and loses 1.2. This is a huge difference Yeah.. that's fair! compare Flash’s best winrate ever over 100 games vs JD’s overall career stats just after coming out of a slump. You know, why don’t you just compare their league wins: JD has to win 2.5 SL’s for every one that Flash wins. Do you know how difficult that is?! You can roughly say that JD is three times better than Flash! I’m ofc being sarcastic, JD has a long long way to go to catch up to Flash right now. But that’s not a reason to post stats like that. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Buuuuuut, the ultimate point, Flash has more titles at 17 than Jaedong did. 8) | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:01 Elroi wrote: Yeah.. that's fair! compare Flash’s best winrate ever over 100 games vs JD’s overall career stats just after coming out of a slump. You know, why don’t you just compare their league wins: JD has to win 2.5 SL’s for every one that Flash wins. Do you know how difficult that is?! You can roughly say that JD is three times better than Flash! I’m ofc being sarcastic, JD has a long long way to go to catch up to Flash right now. But that’s not a reason to post stats like that. rofl seriously wtf If were gonna go with career win rate then its JD 68% vs flash 71%. Not as much of a difference now is it. Maybe I should just take the last 8 games JD played "OMG JAEDONG 100% win rate >>>> Flash 71% win rate" | ||
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Malinor
Germany4755 Posts
On May 11 2010 18:54 SuperArc wrote: We have both JvZ and EvZ back. :o Resurgence from swarm season? ayayay, every time some random thought emerges in your head you have to post it on TL, don't you? There is no such thing like EvZ and there never was. A few 6-7 game-winning streaks and beating JD in a Bo3 does not make you a master of a specific matchup. | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:12 7mk wrote: rofl seriously wtf If were gonna go with career win rate then its JD 68% vs flash 71%. Not as much of a difference now is it. Maybe I should just take the last 8 games JD played "OMG JAEDONG 100% win rate >>>> Flash 71% win rate" He just compared their PL win rates.... | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 11 2010 19:35 Malinor wrote: ayayay, every time some random thought emerges in your head you have to post it on TL, don't you? There is no such thing like EvZ and there never was. A few 6-7 game-winning streaks and beating JD in a Bo3 does not make you a master of a specific matchup. Actually beating Jaedong in that bo3 wasn't any games where I would have said this is EvZ. Effort's play style of ZvZ is completely different to other zergs. It's not even close to being as dominant as JvZ, but no one plays like him. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On May 05 2010 15:25 Holgerius wrote: Never let Fantasy back on the PR no matter what he accomplishes. He should have a lifelong ban for that last game. I just have to repeat this. Holy fuck... | ||
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