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WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
May 10 2010 22:30 GMT
#281
Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league.
WWJDD??
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 00:07:12
May 11 2010 00:06 GMT
#282
On May 11 2010 07:30 WWJDD wrote:
Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league.


You're trolling hard.

Flash 51 wins - 7 losses

Jaedong 38 wins - 18 losses

The difference is significant, not to mention the actual games behind those results. No one says JD is slumping, but Flash is clearly the better player atm. In case I misinterpreted your post, I apologize.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
May 11 2010 00:31 GMT
#283
Yeah, that was sarcasm. I believe the players with most wins last year had 51 or 52 - so JD is actually right on that pace.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 11 2010 01:29 GMT
#284
On May 11 2010 09:06 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 07:30 WWJDD wrote:
Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league.


You're trolling hard.

Flash 51 wins - 7 losses

Jaedong 38 wins - 18 losses

The difference is significant, not to mention the actual games behind those results. No one says JD is slumping, but Flash is clearly the better player atm. In case I misinterpreted your post, I apologize.


Actually there were lots of people saying JD was slumping
beep boop
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 11 2010 01:51 GMT
#285
Yeah a lot of people saying Jaedong WAS slumping, I said it too. That was before he started playing better. Go figure.
Remember Violet.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
May 11 2010 02:16 GMT
#286
On May 11 2010 09:06 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 07:30 WWJDD wrote:
Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league.


You're trolling hard.

Flash 51 wins - 7 losses

Jaedong 38 wins - 18 losses

The difference is significant, not to mention the actual games behind those results. No one says JD is slumping, but Flash is clearly the better player atm. In case I misinterpreted your post, I apologize.


JD is playing well, but the difference between Flash and JD statwise is huge, not just significant.

JD: 68% winrate; he loses one game for every ~2 he wins

Flash: 88% winrate; he loses one game for every ~7 he wins

i.e., Flash's performance is about three times better than Jaedong's according to these stats.

"win rate" is a very deceptive statistic, since it doesn't corollate linearly with performance. Going from 60 to 70% is good, but it is much much more impressive and difficult to go from 80 to 90%, since you are halving the number of losses.

btw, the "wins per loss" stat can be calculated from win% easily: 1/(1 - win%) - 1. It is actually a quite good general-purpose "power" statistic, in that you could say that someone with 2 times this stat is roughly twice as good. It also has nice properties, like that someone with a 50% winrate has "power" 1.0, and all 0-50% winrates fall between 0. and 1.0.

tl;dr JD plays 10 games and loses 3; Flash playes 10 games and loses 1.2. This is a huge difference




Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
May 11 2010 03:00 GMT
#287
Flash is going to be on there next month

Effort might make it to CNBC any day now
disappointed in Stork
Appalled at MVP being on PR
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
May 11 2010 03:18 GMT
#288
Sea is going to disappear from next month's Power Rank simply because MBC refuses to field him. -.-
Lazerbeems
Profile Joined May 2010
151 Posts
May 11 2010 03:21 GMT
#289
On May 11 2010 07:30 WWJDD wrote:
Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league.


He was slumping for a little while losing to every zerg and terran on the face of the planet but hey I wouldn't expect someone with the handle "What would Jaedong do" to be reasonable in any sort of way when it comes to Jaedong.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 11 2010 03:34 GMT
#290
He never lost to every zerg. Maybe during earlier in the season when he was hitting fifty percent, but when he did bad against Terran he was smoking zergs.
Chill with the ad hominem.
Jaedong
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 08:59:39
May 11 2010 08:56 GMT
#291
as far as i can tell, the top possible FPL team right now includes four three two wemade players and wemade the team. makes me very, very happy

meh where did that feature go, i enjoyed that. it's harder doing it in my head lol
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 11 2010 09:54 GMT
#292
We have both JvZ and EvZ back. :o

Resurgence from swarm season?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 11 2010 09:57 GMT
#293
It can't be the emergence of the swarm season if the Swarm is only beating the rest of the Swarm.
Remember Violet.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
May 11 2010 10:01 GMT
#294
On May 11 2010 11:16 nodule wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 09:06 Mooncat wrote:
On May 11 2010 07:30 WWJDD wrote:
Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league.


You're trolling hard.

Flash 51 wins - 7 losses

Jaedong 38 wins - 18 losses

The difference is significant, not to mention the actual games behind those results. No one says JD is slumping, but Flash is clearly the better player atm. In case I misinterpreted your post, I apologize.


JD is playing well, but the difference between Flash and JD statwise is huge, not just significant.

JD: 68% winrate; he loses one game for every ~2 he wins

Flash: 88% winrate; he loses one game for every ~7 he wins

i.e., Flash's performance is about three times better than Jaedong's according to these stats.

"win rate" is a very deceptive statistic, since it doesn't corollate linearly with performance. Going from 60 to 70% is good, but it is much much more impressive and difficult to go from 80 to 90%, since you are halving the number of losses.

btw, the "wins per loss" stat can be calculated from win% easily: 1/(1 - win%) - 1. It is actually a quite good general-purpose "power" statistic, in that you could say that someone with 2 times this stat is roughly twice as good. It also has nice properties, like that someone with a 50% winrate has "power" 1.0, and all 0-50% winrates fall between 0. and 1.0.

tl;dr JD plays 10 games and loses 3; Flash playes 10 games and loses 1.2. This is a huge difference







Yeah.. that's fair! compare Flash’s best winrate ever over 100 games vs JD’s overall career stats just after coming out of a slump. You know, why don’t you just compare their league wins: JD has to win 2.5 SL’s for every one that Flash wins. Do you know how difficult that is?! You can roughly say that JD is three times better than Flash!

I’m ofc being sarcastic, JD has a long long way to go to catch up to Flash right now. But that’s not a reason to post stats like that.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 11 2010 10:08 GMT
#295
Well that entire post is about recency. Jaedong obviously has legacy over Flash currently.

Buuuuuut, the ultimate point, Flash has more titles at 17 than Jaedong did. 8)
Remember Violet.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 10:13:30
May 11 2010 10:12 GMT
#296
On May 11 2010 19:01 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:16 nodule wrote:
On May 11 2010 09:06 Mooncat wrote:
On May 11 2010 07:30 WWJDD wrote:
Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league.


You're trolling hard.

Flash 51 wins - 7 losses

Jaedong 38 wins - 18 losses

The difference is significant, not to mention the actual games behind those results. No one says JD is slumping, but Flash is clearly the better player atm. In case I misinterpreted your post, I apologize.


JD is playing well, but the difference between Flash and JD statwise is huge, not just significant.

JD: 68% winrate; he loses one game for every ~2 he wins

Flash: 88% winrate; he loses one game for every ~7 he wins

i.e., Flash's performance is about three times better than Jaedong's according to these stats.

"win rate" is a very deceptive statistic, since it doesn't corollate linearly with performance. Going from 60 to 70% is good, but it is much much more impressive and difficult to go from 80 to 90%, since you are halving the number of losses.

btw, the "wins per loss" stat can be calculated from win% easily: 1/(1 - win%) - 1. It is actually a quite good general-purpose "power" statistic, in that you could say that someone with 2 times this stat is roughly twice as good. It also has nice properties, like that someone with a 50% winrate has "power" 1.0, and all 0-50% winrates fall between 0. and 1.0.

tl;dr JD plays 10 games and loses 3; Flash playes 10 games and loses 1.2. This is a huge difference







Yeah.. that's fair! compare Flash’s best winrate ever over 100 games vs JD’s overall career stats just after coming out of a slump. You know, why don’t you just compare their league wins: JD has to win 2.5 SL’s for every one that Flash wins. Do you know how difficult that is?! You can roughly say that JD is three times better than Flash!

I’m ofc being sarcastic, JD has a long long way to go to catch up to Flash right now. But that’s not a reason to post stats like that.


rofl seriously wtf

If were gonna go with career win rate then its JD 68% vs flash 71%. Not as much of a difference now is it.
Maybe I should just take the last 8 games JD played
"OMG JAEDONG 100% win rate >>>> Flash 71% win rate"
beep boop
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
May 11 2010 10:35 GMT
#297
On May 11 2010 18:54 SuperArc wrote:
We have both JvZ and EvZ back. :o

Resurgence from swarm season?


ayayay, every time some random thought emerges in your head you have to post it on TL, don't you? There is no such thing like EvZ and there never was. A few 6-7 game-winning streaks and beating JD in a Bo3 does not make you a master of a specific matchup.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
May 11 2010 10:46 GMT
#298
On May 11 2010 19:12 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 19:01 Elroi wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:16 nodule wrote:
On May 11 2010 09:06 Mooncat wrote:
On May 11 2010 07:30 WWJDD wrote:
Jaedong slumping hard. Only 40 wins this season compared to Flash's 50 wins in pro-league.


You're trolling hard.

Flash 51 wins - 7 losses

Jaedong 38 wins - 18 losses

The difference is significant, not to mention the actual games behind those results. No one says JD is slumping, but Flash is clearly the better player atm. In case I misinterpreted your post, I apologize.


JD is playing well, but the difference between Flash and JD statwise is huge, not just significant.

JD: 68% winrate; he loses one game for every ~2 he wins

Flash: 88% winrate; he loses one game for every ~7 he wins

i.e., Flash's performance is about three times better than Jaedong's according to these stats.

"win rate" is a very deceptive statistic, since it doesn't corollate linearly with performance. Going from 60 to 70% is good, but it is much much more impressive and difficult to go from 80 to 90%, since you are halving the number of losses.

btw, the "wins per loss" stat can be calculated from win% easily: 1/(1 - win%) - 1. It is actually a quite good general-purpose "power" statistic, in that you could say that someone with 2 times this stat is roughly twice as good. It also has nice properties, like that someone with a 50% winrate has "power" 1.0, and all 0-50% winrates fall between 0. and 1.0.

tl;dr JD plays 10 games and loses 3; Flash playes 10 games and loses 1.2. This is a huge difference







Yeah.. that's fair! compare Flash’s best winrate ever over 100 games vs JD’s overall career stats just after coming out of a slump. You know, why don’t you just compare their league wins: JD has to win 2.5 SL’s for every one that Flash wins. Do you know how difficult that is?! You can roughly say that JD is three times better than Flash!

I’m ofc being sarcastic, JD has a long long way to go to catch up to Flash right now. But that’s not a reason to post stats like that.


rofl seriously wtf

If were gonna go with career win rate then its JD 68% vs flash 71%. Not as much of a difference now is it.
Maybe I should just take the last 8 games JD played
"OMG JAEDONG 100% win rate >>>> Flash 71% win rate"


He just compared their PL win rates....
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 11 2010 11:02 GMT
#299
On May 11 2010 19:35 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 18:54 SuperArc wrote:
We have both JvZ and EvZ back. :o

Resurgence from swarm season?


ayayay, every time some random thought emerges in your head you have to post it on TL, don't you? There is no such thing like EvZ and there never was. A few 6-7 game-winning streaks and beating JD in a Bo3 does not make you a master of a specific matchup.


Actually beating Jaedong in that bo3 wasn't any games where I would have said this is EvZ.

Effort's play style of ZvZ is completely different to other zergs. It's not even close to being as dominant as JvZ, but no one plays like him.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 11 2010 11:29 GMT
#300
On May 05 2010 15:25 Holgerius wrote:
Never let Fantasy back on the PR no matter what he accomplishes. He should have a lifelong ban for that last game.

I just have to repeat this. Holy fuck...
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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