Best TSL Ro16 Play?
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							losso
							
							
						 
						
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					the extractor survival was pretty cool but zvzs sometimes (rather rarely but still) end like that, definitely not as if i haven't seen a game like that also i have to admit terran's play on outsider was just marvellous.. but still jf's overall skill was too high to not vote for him sen's and whitera's stuff was pretty good but i feel like it was mostly because of opponent's mistakes and mondi didn't impress me nearly as much as the other things did  | ||
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					go mondi!  | ||
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					On February 10 2010 14:06 losso wrote: You're missing the point.overall JF impressed me the most so i voted for him the extractor survival was pretty cool but zvzs sometimes (rather rarely but still) end like that, definitely not as if i haven't seen a game like that also i have to admit terran's play on outsider was just marvellous.. but still jf's overall skill was too high to not vote for him sen's and whitera's stuff was pretty good but i feel like it was mostly because of opponent's mistakes and mondi didn't impress me nearly as much as the other things did  | ||
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					ret ftw  | ||
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					On February 10 2010 15:20 mOnion wrote: anyone who doesnt vote for Terran's defense obviously didnt watch that game. a creative build is less exciting than constant action with an unbelievable comeback. plus the poise to send out the first vulture to end the game instead of clean up his base? that's poise.  | ||
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							deathgod6
							
							
						 
						
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					On February 10 2010 14:21 Holgerius wrote: Terran's defence on Outsider. I would've called a JF win 10/10 if I had seen the first couple of minutes of that game. If he targetted the depots instead of the fac/refinery it would have been GG. Terran would be supply capped so wouldn't be able to build a vulture.  | ||
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					<3 TSL  | ||
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					Mondragon's plagues made me cry a little on the inside though.  | ||
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					I'd go with Mondi's hidden expo or infested cc. Both was entertaining!  | ||
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							Shikyo
							
							
						 
						
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					On February 10 2010 15:20 mOnion wrote: anyone who doesnt vote for Terran's defense obviously didnt watch that game. could have been prevented if jf was just paying attention  | ||
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					Doesn't best "play" refer to best move(s) Depends how you view best. Some people view it as most skillful, some view it as most entertaining, some want to see perfect execution of a non-standard build, some want to see a macrobot, etc. "Best" is vague and therefore people interpret it differently.  | ||
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					gosiTerrans play was just outstanding. Not only was it highskilled as hell, the game was super exciting seeing as it was really close. So gosiTerran for me. Then I think Monids use of defilers in all his games was just sick to see.  | ||
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					JF came up with a solid strategy that was almost a sure win in any circumstance and GosI hang on. Ret's extractor was cute, but he had air control. CastrO didn't. EDIT: Fenix should get the underdog award for beating Kolll.  | ||
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					On February 10 2010 19:04 Artosis wrote: ret's extractor survivor happened because he played poorly. That is actually quite true, he shouldnt even have gotten to such a bad situation. It was definitely the most exciting situation, but it sure as hell wasn't the best play.  | ||
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							Azarkon
							
							
						 
						
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					  Besides which, JF's mind games in that game were perfect up to the point he decided not to kill the depots - he even mind gamed Gosi into building an extractor. For Gosi to survive the initial rush and to force JF into making that mistake, that was already impressive. Yes, JF made a blunder later on - but how many players in Gosi's position would've just GG'd when they saw the zealots, especially given that he was already down 0-2?I realize that Gosi was a bit overhyped before the match, but the kid's got real potential.  | ||
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					GosITerran, on the other hand, well that was just unreal. Gets a perfect surround on the first zealot, then prevents two zealots at once from attacking his SCV building the bunker while they come from different sides, completes the factory being attacked by 3+ zealots, sends the first vulture to the main despite zealots still in his base. So many great decisions and some absolutely brilliant, brilliant micro.  | ||
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					But I suppose that's justified considering the fact that apparently no one on TL likes PvP games except me <_<  | ||
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					The Ret game was cute... but chances are most people who did not vote for the gosl[terran] game did not even see it. It was a game where he beat many odds and defended something that very few players could do.  | ||
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					"best moment" probably but not "best play" On February 10 2010 15:20 mOnion wrote: anyone who doesnt vote for Terran's defense obviously didnt watch that game. This is true. Either that or they clicked without thinking. I can't believe he pulled that off it was simply incredible. So many Zealots streaming into the base when he has practically nothing.  | ||
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					On February 11 2010 12:20 holyhalo5 wrote: terran did well but anyone care to tell me why JF started hitting the rax at about 4:50? shouldnt he have started picking off the SCV's? he had FIVE zealots! Yes, this mistake is what did JF in. As Artosis said before, the only reason ret found himself in that situation is because he played poorly in the first game.  | ||
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					i can see how artosis gets hyped about him. but it's a long and difficult road to make all parts of your game as good as the best parts of your game. judging from the other games in the series, gosi[terran] has some big holes to patch up.  | ||
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					Always highlights to me how crucial it is to just have that little bit over your opponent in ZvZ... Though everything was pretty awesome. (Darn I wish the Hero hydra would've been on here haha)  | ||
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					gosi[terran]'s proxy was by far the most impressive play. my vote for that  | ||
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					I have never seen a Zerg player playing like mondi vs mech in his series vs brat_OK Maybe brat_OK underperformed and maybe mondis strategy wouldnt have worked vs idra or fenix but in this particular game.. it was juuuust stunning  | ||
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					I bet nobody else manages that for the remainder of the tournament.  | ||
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					TO [best]alive: I don't think Fenix was such an udnerdog in the match, he actually had pretty good chance as he showed. Before the match i was thinking like 40-60. Also think that Kolll is highly overrated right now. Yes he is very good and has potential, but you can't really put guy (FENIX) that is on the scene for quite a long time as an underdog against Kolll. Yes Kolll is good at copying BOs and has good control, but that is not everything you need. He still simply doesn't have enough experience.  | ||
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							bEsT[Alive]
							
							
						 
						
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					That brings us to the round of 8: IdrA, Nony, JF, White-Ra, Fenix, ret, Sen and Mondi. All of these guys have proven themselves before and it should come as no surprise if any one of them moves forward.  | ||
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					On February 10 2010 21:29 Shikyo wrote: could have been prevented if jf was just paying attention I love insane comments like this.  | ||
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					But as many people keep saying, Terran defense, was indeed pretty sick, so if we must choose the BEST move, i guess that would be it.  | ||
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					Thanks  | ||
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					  I would link it, but I can't find the torrents or anything...strange...Mods, can you please help?  | ||
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					Voted for Mondragons plague + infested cc, because I really think he really makes the most important decisions perfectly. Moreover I believe he is the smartest player out there, can only be matched by the Korean elite in thinking - core decision making. Even what Cloud/Day[9] commented about his mineral macro spending - I believe it's somewhat on purpose since lings aren't really that good even in high numbers against a good controlled terran army and gas amount will slowly continue to grow even after minerals are mined out. Where in the game vs mech on destination his spending was perfect because he was building hydralisks.  | ||
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					On February 14 2010 10:42 Tangsta wrote: can someone please provide youtube links to all these plays? ![]() Have u ever tried using search function? Even if you dont, you should know it's under the TSL section.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111470  | ||
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					On February 14 2010 11:19 kaleidoscope wrote: Have u ever tried using search function? Even if you dont, you should know it's under the TSL section.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111470 they're all bo5 would you know which games they are specifically?  | ||
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					i gotta say one of the best ZvZ series ever  | ||
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					Best TSL Ro8 Play: IdrA's canceled CC  | ||
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					so sick.  | ||
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