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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
February 10 2010 04:42 GMT
#1
The extractor game hooked me and I was riveted for the rest of the broadcast.
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Pure.Freedom
Profile Joined January 2010
United States114 Posts
February 10 2010 04:45 GMT
#2
Ret's survival with an extractor... ridiculous... it was game one of the series and in my opinion set a tone for the whole series that even if castro played extremely well and maybe even better than Ret, the Netherland beast could still win... he had 47 minerals, 135 gas, 10 supply, and one building... and won... are you kidding me?
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jgju
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States454 Posts
February 10 2010 04:57 GMT
#3
The extractor survival was certainly stunning, but I feel like Ra breaking the contain was more exciting- it showed some really brilliant army micro and had the added tension of happening in game 5 instead of the very start of the set.
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losso
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Bulgaria158 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 05:09:36
February 10 2010 05:06 GMT
#4
overall JF impressed me the most so i voted for him
the extractor survival was pretty cool but zvzs sometimes (rather rarely but still) end like that, definitely not as if i haven't seen a game like that
also i have to admit terran's play on outsider was just marvellous.. but still jf's overall skill was too high to not vote for him
sen's and whitera's stuff was pretty good but i feel like it was mostly because of opponent's mistakes
and mondi didn't impress me nearly as much as the other things did
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#5
Terran's defence on Outsider. I would've called a JF win 10/10 if I had seen the first couple of minutes of that game.
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TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
February 10 2010 05:33 GMT
#6
although i told everyoe i know to go watch the extractor ret game, i say Terrans proxi defence, because that was just too good to beleive
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 05:38:23
February 10 2010 05:38 GMT
#7
I really liked mondi's hidden expo behind bratok's nat on destination. He got loads of value through mining and lurk harass before it was destroyed, and the really special thing about it is that it's probably a one-time gem; I really doubt anyone is going to be able to get away with it for a loooong time.
tre2ettsexsju
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden248 Posts
February 10 2010 05:57 GMT
#8
The extractor survivor was really sick and I thought ret would lose at multiple points during that game as far as I remember BUT nothing can really beat infested ccs and queens <3
go mondi!
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
February 10 2010 06:20 GMT
#9
anyone who doesnt vote for Terran's defense obviously didnt watch that game.
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
February 10 2010 06:26 GMT
#10
On February 10 2010 14:06 losso wrote:
overall JF impressed me the most so i voted for him
the extractor survival was pretty cool but zvzs sometimes (rather rarely but still) end like that, definitely not as if i haven't seen a game like that
also i have to admit terran's play on outsider was just marvellous.. but still jf's overall skill was too high to not vote for him
sen's and whitera's stuff was pretty good but i feel like it was mostly because of opponent's mistakes
and mondi didn't impress me nearly as much as the other things did
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Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
February 10 2010 06:38 GMT
#11
i think when u win with only 1 useless building, it's been a game worth watching
ret ftw
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Fulgrim
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States560 Posts
February 10 2010 06:52 GMT
#12
ret and his extractor
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 10 2010 06:52 GMT
#13
all are sooooo good, but im going with rets extractor
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barthos
Profile Joined September 2009
United States30 Posts
February 10 2010 07:47 GMT
#14
On February 10 2010 15:20 mOnion wrote:
anyone who doesnt vote for Terran's defense obviously didnt watch that game.


a creative build is less exciting than constant action with an unbelievable comeback. plus the poise to send out the first vulture to end the game instead of clean up his base? that's poise.
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
February 10 2010 08:21 GMT
#15
GosI[Terran] deflected dirty Protoss cheese 3 games in a row and managed to win one and survive to late game in the other two. That took some serious skill under pressure. Sick play all around in the Ro16 though.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 10 2010 08:26 GMT
#16
On February 10 2010 14:21 Holgerius wrote:
Terran's defence on Outsider. I would've called a JF win 10/10 if I had seen the first couple of minutes of that game.

If he targetted the depots instead of the fac/refinery it would have been GG. Terran would be supply capped so wouldn't be able to build a vulture.
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iG.SwOrD
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria183 Posts
February 10 2010 08:39 GMT
#17
Mondi's hidden expo and harass <<<<
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
February 10 2010 08:44 GMT
#18
Definitely Ret's extractor. I had it set in my mind that Castro won the game, that I got confused for a second watching game 2 when the score said 1 - 0 for Ret. I had an "Oh yeah, that's right!" moment.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 10 2010 09:00 GMT
#19
proxy defence, closely followed by the extractor survivor
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Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
February 10 2010 09:00 GMT
#20
I voted for ret's extractor, that game was the most exiting ZvZ I have ever seen. White-Ra's game 5 breakout came as a close second. I love White-Ra, and I was literally shaking with excitement as the game begun, and more so when Ra got contained. When he was breaking out I was pretty much shouting with my hands raised. Good times.

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georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
February 10 2010 09:12 GMT
#21
can you please add the TL links for those games, so that people that didnt watch them yet can get a clue what this is all about? (if there are vods added for these games on TL already)
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
February 10 2010 09:33 GMT
#22
Ret's extractor. Elimination games just tend to be the most memorable.
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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
February 10 2010 10:04 GMT
#23
ret's extractor survivor happened because he played poorly. the game was over at that point anyways. gositerran's proxy defense was a level you rarely see at any level of play. absolutely astounding. and im not just saying that because he is my illegitimate child.
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Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 10:13:22
February 10 2010 10:13 GMT
#24
I think people don't understand how difficult it is to hold off such a proxy from JF. Gosi[Terran] really had perfect micro and decision making there.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
February 10 2010 10:24 GMT
#25
mondi's defiler. classic play, perfection
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
February 10 2010 10:39 GMT
#26
Mondi's defiler usage, holy shit it's just so sexy!
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
February 10 2010 10:48 GMT
#27
Terran defence, it was awesome.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
February 10 2010 11:31 GMT
#28
Terran's defense... didn't look like he had a chance.

Mondragon's plagues made me cry a little on the inside though.
gentile
Profile Joined August 2007
Switzerland594 Posts
February 10 2010 11:36 GMT
#29
proxy defence was greatest to me
MartT
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom88 Posts
February 10 2010 12:12 GMT
#30
Terran for sure. Not sure why Ret's win is even an option, luckiest maybe..
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
February 10 2010 12:24 GMT
#31
I wonder am I missing the point or half the voters!? Doesn't best "play" refer to best move(s)? Ret's game was awesome but what kind of move is it to luckily survive with one building?
I'd go with Mondi's hidden expo or infested cc. Both was entertaining!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 10 2010 12:29 GMT
#32
On February 10 2010 15:20 mOnion wrote:
anyone who doesnt vote for Terran's defense obviously didnt watch that game.

could have been prevented if jf was just paying attention

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psychopat
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada417 Posts
February 10 2010 12:40 GMT
#33
Doesn't best "play" refer to best move(s)


Depends how you view best. Some people view it as most skillful, some view it as most entertaining, some want to see perfect execution of a non-standard build, some want to see a macrobot, etc. "Best" is vague and therefore people interpret it differently.
TriNitroToluene
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany21 Posts
February 10 2010 12:42 GMT
#34
ret's extractor survivor although the proxy defence was really great as well.
MisterKatosS
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
France352 Posts
February 10 2010 12:42 GMT
#35
terran defence ofc, for mondy I remember jaedong using the same hidden expo like 6 month ago against FBH .
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ms9ball
Profile Joined December 2009
United States7 Posts
February 10 2010 13:32 GMT
#36
link to the extractor vid please?
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purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
February 10 2010 13:54 GMT
#37
Ret did not play good in that game, he just got superlucky that Castro did not spend his money on a spore.

gosiTerrans play was just outstanding. Not only was it highskilled as hell, the game was super exciting seeing as it was really close.

So gosiTerran for me. Then I think Monids use of defilers in all his games was just sick to see.
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
February 10 2010 14:10 GMT
#38
Voted MOndi !
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yarders
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom194 Posts
February 10 2010 14:39 GMT
#39
can't believe gosl[Terran]'s hasn't won this that defence was insane.
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
February 10 2010 14:55 GMT
#40
The ret extractor game is something that will be retold for generations.
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
February 10 2010 14:59 GMT
#41
While some of these were definitely more exciting, Fenix' dismantling of Kolll is the best 'play'.
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Lacke
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden46 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 15:59:06
February 10 2010 15:29 GMT
#42
voted Mondi for winner. motivation: "best defiler usage"
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
February 10 2010 16:26 GMT
#43
ret's lone extractor was the most exciting imo, but as far as skill goes GosI[Terran]'s proxy defence was stunning and exciting at the same time - it got my vote.
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Sauron
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania169 Posts
February 10 2010 17:49 GMT
#44
Although I absolutely hate zvz, the ret vs castro series was pretty entertaining and the extractor survival game was really intense. My vote goes to ret.
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NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
February 10 2010 17:54 GMT
#45
ya i voted wrong w/e, ret extractor survivor was epic lol. I would have pissed my pants if i had the same situation in a tour like this.
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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 17:59:24
February 10 2010 17:57 GMT
#46
How is GosI's defense at # 3?

JF came up with a solid strategy that was almost a sure win in any circumstance and GosI hang on.

Ret's extractor was cute, but he had air control. CastrO didn't.

EDIT: Fenix should get the underdog award for beating Kolll.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
February 10 2010 18:01 GMT
#47
Gosi's defense without question. That was unreal.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
February 10 2010 20:31 GMT
#48
On February 10 2010 19:04 Artosis wrote:
ret's extractor survivor happened because he played poorly.


That is actually quite true, he shouldnt even have gotten to such a bad situation.

It was definitely the most exciting situation, but it sure as hell wasn't the best play.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 20:34:56
February 10 2010 20:32 GMT
#49
I think all the casters predicted that Gosi was going to lose Game 3 and that JF was going to walk away with a 3-0, so I'll go with that one Besides which, JF's mind games in that game were perfect up to the point he decided not to kill the depots - he even mind gamed Gosi into building an extractor. For Gosi to survive the initial rush and to force JF into making that mistake, that was already impressive. Yes, JF made a blunder later on - but how many players in Gosi's position would've just GG'd when they saw the zealots, especially given that he was already down 0-2?

I realize that Gosi was a bit overhyped before the match, but the kid's got real potential.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 10 2010 20:39 GMT
#50
No doubt GosITerran's defense. The Ret extractor game was very cool, but it wasn't a "genius" play by Ret, he had air control and was pretty smart with how he used the mutalisks but I didn't see any skill that was beyond amazing. Air units > ground units that can't attack air, sure he had to avoid a few scourge and such, but that isn't super amazing.

GosITerran, on the other hand, well that was just unreal. Gets a perfect surround on the first zealot, then prevents two zealots at once from attacking his SCV building the bunker while they come from different sides, completes the factory being attacked by 3+ zealots, sends the first vulture to the main despite zealots still in his base. So many great decisions and some absolutely brilliant, brilliant micro.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
February 10 2010 20:52 GMT
#51
I can't believe more people didn't vote for White-Ra's bridge breakout.

But I suppose that's justified considering the fact that apparently no one on TL likes PvP games except me <_<
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Skaff
Profile Joined February 2010
United States240 Posts
February 10 2010 21:04 GMT
#52
Like many others have said...

The Ret game was cute... but chances are most people who did not vote for the gosl[terran] game did not even see it. It was a game where he beat many odds and defended something that very few players could do.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
February 10 2010 21:07 GMT
#53
Ret's extractor survivor for sure
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
February 10 2010 21:21 GMT
#54
I love Ret but surviving with only an extractor was more luck than judgment.
"best moment" probably but not "best play"

On February 10 2010 15:20 mOnion wrote:
anyone who doesnt vote for Terran's defense obviously didnt watch that game.

This is true. Either that or they clicked without thinking.

I can't believe he pulled that off it was simply incredible. So many Zealots streaming into the base when he has practically nothing.
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DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
February 10 2010 22:59 GMT
#55
GosI's cheese defense was undoubtedly the sweetest cheese repulsion I've ever seen.
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
February 10 2010 23:16 GMT
#56
I guess I'll have to watch that again. When I saw it i remember thinking that JF executed poorly.
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HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
February 11 2010 00:47 GMT
#57
Mondi's $500 build!
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
February 11 2010 01:27 GMT
#58
Ret extractor is a close second for me - all of Mondi's plagues though, oh my god ahaha
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Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
February 11 2010 02:53 GMT
#59
zomg epic plagues
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holyhalo5
Profile Joined October 2009
United States187 Posts
February 11 2010 03:20 GMT
#60
terran did well but anyone care to tell me why JF started hitting the rax at about 4:50? shouldnt he have started picking off the SCV's? he had FIVE zealots!
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
February 11 2010 03:34 GMT
#61
oo tbh i could have voted for like all of these.
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enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
February 11 2010 03:56 GMT
#62
Fenix's marine rushes, because they got the kolll hype back down to reality.
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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
February 11 2010 05:04 GMT
#63
On February 11 2010 12:20 holyhalo5 wrote:
terran did well but anyone care to tell me why JF started hitting the rax at about 4:50? shouldnt he have started picking off the SCV's? he had FIVE zealots!


Yes, this mistake is what did JF in.

As Artosis said before, the only reason ret found himself in that situation is because he played poorly in the first game.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 05:28:09
February 11 2010 05:25 GMT
#64
gosi[terran]'s proxy defense was sick

i can see how artosis gets hyped about him. but it's a long and difficult road to make all parts of your game as good as the best parts of your game. judging from the other games in the series, gosi[terran] has some big holes to patch up.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
February 11 2010 07:05 GMT
#65
Extractor, definitely.
Always highlights to me how crucial it is to just have that little bit over your opponent in ZvZ...
Though everything was pretty awesome. (Darn I wish the Hero hydra would've been on here haha)
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kartoffel
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany38 Posts
February 11 2010 07:34 GMT
#66
there was nothing special in rets game. zvz can get that close very often.
gosi[terran]'s proxy was by far the most impressive play.
my vote for that
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 11 2010 08:07 GMT
#67
All I can say is:

I have never seen a Zerg player playing like mondi vs mech in his series vs brat_OK
Maybe brat_OK underperformed and maybe mondis strategy wouldnt have worked vs idra or fenix but in this particular game.. it was juuuust stunning
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
February 11 2010 10:46 GMT
#68
that gosi survived on outsider game 3 impressive as heck. altho jf screwed up badly in micro
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barthos
Profile Joined September 2009
United States30 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 12:05:31
February 11 2010 12:04 GMT
#69
NonY's match was the first Bo5 of the TSL I couldn't down all 5 of my beers before the end.
I bet nobody else manages that for the remainder of the tournament.
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Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
February 11 2010 13:46 GMT
#70
I voted Ret's extractor, but now i think that Terran's defense was even more exciting. I think that JF should have taken out supply depot/s that were not defended at all.

TO [best]alive: I don't think Fenix was such an udnerdog in the match, he actually had pretty good chance as he showed. Before the match i was thinking like 40-60. Also think that Kolll is highly overrated right now. Yes he is very good and has potential, but you can't really put guy (FENIX) that is on the scene for quite a long time as an underdog against Kolll. Yes Kolll is good at copying BOs and has good control, but that is not everything you need. He still simply doesn't have enough experience.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19053 Posts
February 11 2010 15:04 GMT
#71
Ret's no-hatch build was epic. GosI[Terran]'s proxy was nice...but he's got too many issues with the rest of his game
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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
February 11 2010 15:10 GMT
#72
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fenix is one of those players who could win on any given sunday. The vast majority thought Kolll would go through. Just because he didn't doesn't make him overrated. The kid made it to the round of 16 for a reason. He played bad that day; Fenix played better. In other words, we agree. It boils down to experience. Something I also said before. I will leave it at that.

That brings us to the round of 8: IdrA, Nony, JF, White-Ra, Fenix, ret, Sen and Mondi. All of these guys have proven themselves before and it should come as no surprise if any one of them moves forward.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
February 11 2010 15:52 GMT
#73
On February 10 2010 21:29 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 15:20 mOnion wrote:
anyone who doesnt vote for Terran's defense obviously didnt watch that game.

could have been prevented if jf was just paying attention


I love insane comments like this.
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MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
February 11 2010 16:08 GMT
#74
I didn't see all these plays but I got to see the Mondi infesting all those cc's and it was hilarious for me so voted for that!
Making history not reliving it.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
February 11 2010 16:37 GMT
#75
mondragon's plagues were awesome
I drop suckas like Plinko
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
February 11 2010 17:43 GMT
#76
Defending an IN BASE proxy after going gas first and having the wrong placement is unheard of. It's like what JD did to Lucifer on colosseum.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 11 2010 21:40 GMT
#77
mondis plagues were unreal
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
February 11 2010 21:44 GMT
#78
I voted mondi, we just don't see CC that often so i guess it was worth it.
But as many people keep saying, Terran defense, was indeed pretty sick, so if we must choose the BEST move, i guess that would be it.
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
February 12 2010 01:00 GMT
#79
Terran defense... or mondi Z play in general...
:)
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
February 12 2010 02:26 GMT
#80
Extractor was exciting, but Terran hands down. So sadfaiced when JF lost.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 12 2010 11:28 GMT
#81
Could someone please post some links to the vids or pm me the games / set/ players so that i could find it? I've only watched JF vs Gosi that was sick

Thanks
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Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa975 Posts
February 12 2010 14:53 GMT
#82
I voted Mondis' 500$-Play, but Terrans defense was totally awsome! Everyone who didnt see it, go watch it right now! I would link it, but I can't find the torrents or anything...strange...
Mods, can you please help?
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Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
February 12 2010 14:58 GMT
#83
Mondragon old Savior like defiler usage. Seriously even in progame you don't see so many well placed plague and swarm!
Firebathero fanboy - It's not that i'm dumb i'm just controlled by a retarded infestor - Day[9]
Native
Profile Joined October 2007
Poland105 Posts
February 12 2010 21:11 GMT
#84
Mondi = autovote : )
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
February 12 2010 23:09 GMT
#85
as for me, as a Zerg player, who doesn't really get TvP that well, ret's extractor win ;P. That proxy defence, well, both of the players seemed to play very calm, and were very confident in their actions, and when the vulture came out + bunker was done with rines inside it, the game just ran away from JF.
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LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 01:34:48
February 13 2010 01:34 GMT
#86
I really think JF could have utilized his zealots better or make a quickier follow-up into fast goons or forge->cannons rush. GosI[Terran]'s control that game was amazing though.

Voted for Mondragons plague + infested cc, because I really think he really makes the most important decisions perfectly. Moreover I believe he is the smartest player out there, can only be matched by the Korean elite in thinking - core decision making.
Even what Cloud/Day[9] commented about his mineral macro spending - I believe it's somewhat on purpose since lings aren't really that good even in high numbers against a good controlled terran army and gas amount will slowly continue to grow even after minerals are mined out. Where in the game vs mech on destination his spending was perfect because he was building hydralisks.
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Tangsta
Profile Joined November 2007
Australia68 Posts
February 14 2010 01:42 GMT
#87
can someone please provide youtube links to all these plays?
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
February 14 2010 02:19 GMT
#88
On February 14 2010 10:42 Tangsta wrote:
can someone please provide youtube links to all these plays?


Have u ever tried using search function? Even if you dont, you should know it's under the TSL section..

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111470
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Belladona
Profile Joined July 2009
Chile127 Posts
February 14 2010 05:00 GMT
#89
Extractor is something not unusual in ZvZ, but a hidden expo to harrass... that's something new, at least for me.
ex ToT, ESC, mouz
Tangsta
Profile Joined November 2007
Australia68 Posts
February 14 2010 06:41 GMT
#90
On February 14 2010 11:19 kaleidoscope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 10:42 Tangsta wrote:
can someone please provide youtube links to all these plays?


Have u ever tried using search function? Even if you dont, you should know it's under the TSL section..

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111470

they're all bo5

would you know which games they are specifically?
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
February 15 2010 14:53 GMT
#91
Ret's extractor imo
i gotta say one of the best ZvZ series ever
cw)minsean(ru
psyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany15 Posts
February 15 2010 18:50 GMT
#92
Best TSL Ro16 Play: GosI[Terran]'s proxy defense
Best TSL Ro8 Play: IdrA's canceled CC
milo
Profile Joined February 2010
116 Posts
February 15 2010 19:24 GMT
#93
Mondragon's defilers are unbelievable.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 15 2010 21:19 GMT
#94
Tossup between Mondi's CCs and Sen's sim city vs Draco

so sick.
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Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
February 16 2010 18:46 GMT
#95
hopefully no one votes for Ret's extractor survivor anymore because it is 1337
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
February 18 2010 01:11 GMT
#96
I thought the infested command center was pretty neat. :/
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