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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On August 18 2009 00:30 meegrean wrote: Yeah, I already considered Semifinal B to be the real finals (really really epic games). Yarnc is pretty much going to get raped by Jaedong  Yeah really dislike how the brackets got laid out, and not to mention that leta lost OMG! woulda been much better to see leta vs jaedong SIGH | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On August 18 2009 00:31 StorrZerg wrote: Yeah really dislike how the brackets got laid out, and not to mention that leta lost OMG! woulda been much better to see leta vs jaedong SIGH Speaking as a Leta fan, Leta vs Jaedong would've probably ended 3-0 Jaedong. The actual final is likely to be less one-sided than a hypothetical Leta v Jaedong final. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
And good writeup JWD | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On August 18 2009 00:39 Elyvilon wrote: Speaking as a Leta fan, Leta vs Jaedong would've probably ended 3-0 Jaedong. The actual final is likely to be less one-sided than a hypothetical Leta v Jaedong final. I totally agree...and there are more reasons than this one to be excited about the Final... | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
Maybe after Yarnc wins this, you'll stop calling Semifinal B the "real" finals. | ||
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
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slvcadv
United States43 Posts
On August 17 2009 22:20 Corrupt wrote: Type-B indeed absorbed Leta's Zerg skills. Here's a match between Leta and Yarnc, played couple of weeks ago @ Cooltime This was a non-serious match where both Yarnc and Leta randomed. Yarnc got terran and Leta got zerg. So it wasn't Leta playing horribly in that game. | ||
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Delerium
United States324 Posts
two things: 1) From the LR thread and our discussion on vent, one thing missing from your summary is that Jaedong changed his approach on Outsider after losing to Fantasy on the same map in Pusan. Instead of using his double gas to fund ultralisks, he used hydra-lurk, which caused problems for Fantasy's unit mixture. 2) If you re-watch Holy World, you'll see that while Fantasy did have two marines when Jaedong attacked for the final time, only one marine was in the bunker. The second marine was in the mineral line, and it was killed by drive-by lings as they swarmed the bunker and cut off the SCVs from repairing. The second marine that pops out when the bunker finally dies is a third marine that spawned from the Barracks and entered the bunker in the very seconds that the final zergling attack commenced. My own analysis of Holy World echoes some of the LR posters. There was a minor disagreement about whether or not Jaedong could have finished the game earlier. In his interview, Jaedong says that he felt he was behind. However, there is an entire minute during which only ONE marine is in the bunker... and Fantasy can't make any more. First, he lifts his barracks. Then, his only supply depot dies at the choke. With the re-landed barracks blocking the SCVs' path to repair on the left side, I think that there's no way that single marine could have stopped Jaedong's zerglings from flattening the bunker in record time, had he chosen to mass up and attack rather than let Fantasy rebuild his depot and a factory to boot. Thoughts? | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On August 17 2009 21:54 7mk wrote: I think people complain about it because it's a bitch to play if you don't know exactly how to play it cause it's so damn different. I don't like playing it either. Watching it however is a different story, it has produced such a large amount of great games in such a short time. It's just too short really. They should make the final Bo7 or Bo9. It would still be pretty short and everyone's more satisfied. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
That leta picture was pure art. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On August 18 2009 03:23 Kyuukyuu wrote: Wait, July > Best @ Incruit OSL? That's supposed to say EVER, I think? Yeah, good catch...my bad I confused one crushing BeSt loss with another  | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On August 18 2009 02:41 Delerium wrote: thanks for the write-up, JWD! two things: 1) From the LR thread and our discussion on vent, one thing missing from your summary is that Jaedong changed his approach on Outsider after losing to Fantasy on the same map in Pusan. Instead of using his double gas to fund ultralisks, he used hydra-lurk, which caused problems for Fantasy's unit mixture. 2) If you re-watch Holy World, you'll see that while Fantasy did have two marines when Jaedong attacked for the final time, only one marine was in the bunker. The second marine was in the mineral line, and it was killed by drive-by lings as they swarmed the bunker and cut off the SCVs from repairing. The second marine that pops out when the bunker finally dies is a third marine that spawned from the Barracks and entered the bunker in the very seconds that the final zergling attack commenced. My own analysis of Holy World echoes some of the LR posters. There was a minor disagreement about whether or not Jaedong could have finished the game earlier. In his interview, Jaedong says that he felt he was behind. However, there is an entire minute during which only ONE marine is in the bunker... and Fantasy can't make any more. First, he lifts his barracks. Then, his only supply depot dies at the choke. With the re-landed barracks blocking the SCVs' path to repair on the left side, I think that there's no way that single marine could have stopped Jaedong's zerglings from flattening the bunker in record time, had he chosen to mass up and attack rather than let Fantasy rebuild his depot and a factory to boot. Thoughts? Thanks for the thoughtful post. JD's strategy change on Outsider was also important to this series but I didn't feel it was as crucial as the 3set. You are right about Fantasy only having a single marine in the bunker, but I still doubt JD could have busted him earlier or that he was not in serious trouble when Fantasy held the first 6 lings (keep in mind that Jaedong loses the game if he loses a substantial portion of his first lings without completely wiping out Fantasy). I think the factor you are neglecting is Fantasy's SCVs, which JD would have presumed he would mobilize to protect the bunker. One marine is enough to hold ~8 lings if the bunker is near-surrounded by buildings and stacked SCVs are at work. Of course when JD did finally move in, Fantasy was totally out of position and he was really slow to react — I think you could say that if Fantasy's defense was as bad as it ended up being JD could have attacked earlier and won, but there was no way for Jaedong to know that he would catch Fantasy so off-guard. | ||
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Piste
6165 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On August 18 2009 06:39 Piste wrote: argh, I really want Fantasy to win OSL some day. Watching his playstyle and awesome multitasking is so entertaining. Jaedong deserved his victory ofcourse, but too bad the last two games were so boring. If those two games were "boring" then so was Boxer bunker rushing Yellow 3 times in a row, Proleague Finals ace match, July vs Best game 1 etc. -_- | ||
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ReiKo
Croatia1023 Posts
Thanks! | ||
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redMARS
United States12 Posts
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
On August 18 2009 06:39 Piste wrote: but too bad the last two games were so boring. lolwut. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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