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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 17 2009 15:31 GMT
#21
On August 18 2009 00:30 meegrean wrote:
Yeah, I already considered Semifinal B to be the real finals (really really epic games). Yarnc is pretty much going to get raped by Jaedong


Yeah really dislike how the brackets got laid out, and not to mention that leta lost OMG!

woulda been much better to see leta vs jaedong SIGH
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 17 2009 15:39 GMT
#22
On August 18 2009 00:31 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 00:30 meegrean wrote:
Yeah, I already considered Semifinal B to be the real finals (really really epic games). Yarnc is pretty much going to get raped by Jaedong


Yeah really dislike how the brackets got laid out, and not to mention that leta lost OMG!

woulda been much better to see leta vs jaedong SIGH

Speaking as a Leta fan, Leta vs Jaedong would've probably ended 3-0 Jaedong.

The actual final is likely to be less one-sided than a hypothetical Leta v Jaedong final.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 15:40:43
August 17 2009 15:40 GMT
#23
Outsider keeps providing the best games of the past months, it might not be the most popular map, but it's entertaining for sure

And good writeup JWD
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 17 2009 16:37 GMT
#24
On August 18 2009 00:39 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 00:31 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 00:30 meegrean wrote:
Yeah, I already considered Semifinal B to be the real finals (really really epic games). Yarnc is pretty much going to get raped by Jaedong


Yeah really dislike how the brackets got laid out, and not to mention that leta lost OMG!

woulda been much better to see leta vs jaedong SIGH

Speaking as a Leta fan, Leta vs Jaedong would've probably ended 3-0 Jaedong.

The actual final is likely to be less one-sided than a hypothetical Leta v Jaedong final.

I totally agree...and there are more reasons than this one to be excited about the Final...
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
August 17 2009 16:46 GMT
#25
I wouldn't call Semifinal B "epic." Whereas in the Batoo finals, it appeared that Jaedong had kicked his game up a notch, it felt more like in Bacchus that fantasy was just falling apart.

Maybe after Yarnc wins this, you'll stop calling Semifinal B the "real" finals.
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JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
August 17 2009 17:05 GMT
#26
wow JWD made the highlights just for us <3
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slvcadv
Profile Joined May 2009
United States43 Posts
August 17 2009 17:25 GMT
#27
On August 17 2009 22:20 Corrupt wrote:
Type-B indeed absorbed Leta's Zerg skills.
Here's a match between Leta and Yarnc, played couple of weeks ago @ Cooltime



This was a non-serious match where both Yarnc and Leta randomed. Yarnc got terran and Leta got zerg. So it wasn't Leta playing horribly in that game.
Delerium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States324 Posts
August 17 2009 17:41 GMT
#28
thanks for the write-up, JWD!

two things:

1) From the LR thread and our discussion on vent, one thing missing from your summary is that Jaedong changed his approach on Outsider after losing to Fantasy on the same map in Pusan. Instead of using his double gas to fund ultralisks, he used hydra-lurk, which caused problems for Fantasy's unit mixture.

2) If you re-watch Holy World, you'll see that while Fantasy did have two marines when Jaedong attacked for the final time, only one marine was in the bunker. The second marine was in the mineral line, and it was killed by drive-by lings as they swarmed the bunker and cut off the SCVs from repairing. The second marine that pops out when the bunker finally dies is a third marine that spawned from the Barracks and entered the bunker in the very seconds that the final zergling attack commenced.

My own analysis of Holy World echoes some of the LR posters. There was a minor disagreement about whether or not Jaedong could have finished the game earlier. In his interview, Jaedong says that he felt he was behind. However, there is an entire minute during which only ONE marine is in the bunker... and Fantasy can't make any more. First, he lifts his barracks. Then, his only supply depot dies at the choke. With the re-landed barracks blocking the SCVs' path to repair on the left side, I think that there's no way that single marine could have stopped Jaedong's zerglings from flattening the bunker in record time, had he chosen to mass up and attack rather than let Fantasy rebuild his depot and a factory to boot. Thoughts?
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
August 17 2009 17:54 GMT
#29
On August 17 2009 21:54 7mk wrote:
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On August 17 2009 20:44 konadora wrote:
Sigh... ZvZ finals.

Great write up though, good job!

Gotta agree about Outsider being an awesome map, no idea why so many complain about it. And yes, take out RotK and bring in 2 new maps or something :<


I think people complain about it because it's a bitch to play if you don't know exactly how to play it cause it's so damn different. I don't like playing it either.
Watching it however is a different story, it has produced such a large amount of great games in such a short time.

It's just too short really. They should make the final Bo7 or Bo9. It would still be pretty short and everyone's more satisfied.
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
August 17 2009 18:23 GMT
#30
Wait, July > Best @ Incruit OSL? That's supposed to say EVER, I think?
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
August 17 2009 18:27 GMT
#31
Nice write-up as usual.
That leta picture was pure art.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 17 2009 18:41 GMT
#32
Leta seems like a funny guy.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 17 2009 19:26 GMT
#33
On August 18 2009 03:23 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Wait, July > Best @ Incruit OSL? That's supposed to say EVER, I think?

Yeah, good catch...my bad

I confused one crushing BeSt loss with another
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 17 2009 19:37 GMT
#34
On August 18 2009 02:41 Delerium wrote:
thanks for the write-up, JWD!

two things:

1) From the LR thread and our discussion on vent, one thing missing from your summary is that Jaedong changed his approach on Outsider after losing to Fantasy on the same map in Pusan. Instead of using his double gas to fund ultralisks, he used hydra-lurk, which caused problems for Fantasy's unit mixture.

2) If you re-watch Holy World, you'll see that while Fantasy did have two marines when Jaedong attacked for the final time, only one marine was in the bunker. The second marine was in the mineral line, and it was killed by drive-by lings as they swarmed the bunker and cut off the SCVs from repairing. The second marine that pops out when the bunker finally dies is a third marine that spawned from the Barracks and entered the bunker in the very seconds that the final zergling attack commenced.

My own analysis of Holy World echoes some of the LR posters. There was a minor disagreement about whether or not Jaedong could have finished the game earlier. In his interview, Jaedong says that he felt he was behind. However, there is an entire minute during which only ONE marine is in the bunker... and Fantasy can't make any more. First, he lifts his barracks. Then, his only supply depot dies at the choke. With the re-landed barracks blocking the SCVs' path to repair on the left side, I think that there's no way that single marine could have stopped Jaedong's zerglings from flattening the bunker in record time, had he chosen to mass up and attack rather than let Fantasy rebuild his depot and a factory to boot. Thoughts?

Thanks for the thoughtful post. JD's strategy change on Outsider was also important to this series but I didn't feel it was as crucial as the 3set. You are right about Fantasy only having a single marine in the bunker, but I still doubt JD could have busted him earlier or that he was not in serious trouble when Fantasy held the first 6 lings (keep in mind that Jaedong loses the game if he loses a substantial portion of his first lings without completely wiping out Fantasy). I think the factor you are neglecting is Fantasy's SCVs, which JD would have presumed he would mobilize to protect the bunker. One marine is enough to hold ~8 lings if the bunker is near-surrounded by buildings and stacked SCVs are at work. Of course when JD did finally move in, Fantasy was totally out of position and he was really slow to react — I think you could say that if Fantasy's defense was as bad as it ended up being JD could have attacked earlier and won, but there was no way for Jaedong to know that he would catch Fantasy so off-guard.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
August 17 2009 21:39 GMT
#35
argh, I really want Fantasy to win OSL some day. Watching his playstyle and awesome multitasking is so entertaining. Jaedong deserved his victory ofcourse, but too bad the last two games were so boring.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
August 17 2009 23:16 GMT
#36
On August 18 2009 06:39 Piste wrote:
argh, I really want Fantasy to win OSL some day. Watching his playstyle and awesome multitasking is so entertaining. Jaedong deserved his victory ofcourse, but too bad the last two games were so boring.

If those two games were "boring" then so was Boxer bunker rushing Yellow 3 times in a row, Proleague Finals ace match, July vs Best game 1 etc. -_-
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ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
August 17 2009 23:25 GMT
#37
Nice short but sweet writeup

Thanks!
redMARS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States12 Posts
August 18 2009 00:36 GMT
#38
oh man I love Leta.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
August 18 2009 02:33 GMT
#39
On August 18 2009 06:39 Piste wrote:
but too bad the last two games were so boring.


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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 18 2009 05:12 GMT
#40
Thanks for the recap and recommendations. The Leta pic at the end is funny
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