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i cant see any video! HELP!!! I tried the link to downlaod the newest vesion, but it told me my current version is actually newer then the version i downloaded
Uhm, please arrange the microphones' volumes. Some are very loud and some very quiet... The first dude's micro is very quiet (I think it's Manifesto?).
On May 11 2008 05:54 ahole-surprise wrote: So this is a replay right?
No, they are using Advloader, which has a option seeing progress when you're obs.
I actually think it's a replay. Very beginning they already had the graphic up with the position and color. Also look above the minimap. It is the Vision (eye) button and the Messaging button. This is for replays. Regular game would have the Allying button (the hands shaking) and the Messaging.
strelok got so much owned in the first game...as i said before, after seeing strelok getting owned by JF i just couldn't believe that he can take down draco!
(18:12:21) (Lyset) FAQ kk?!: It's a Replay to prevent lag, the commentary is live, they dont know the results. Dude with the clear voice is Chill, deep voice is Manifesto7, last one is Artosis, Kennigit camera man. Red supply = at or above limit, yellow = 2under limit
I must thank Team Liquid for that HUGE league (stream, prizes, players...) we have nothing to envy of the koreans :p The stream is just great, thanks Razer also.
Draco vs Strelok @ Othello right now, first game was just perfect from Draco.
On May 11 2008 06:08 Mesh wrote: if this is a replay it sucks balls
Why? You can't tell the difference between this and live in any way. I seriously don't get it why people complain on that, it's so fucking stupid. Btw, really amazing stuff with the mineral counter and stuff, that was so unexpected and cool Awesome so far(really glad to see Artosis commentating, that guy should be a professional commentator ), keep it up! Back to watching ^^
On May 11 2008 06:15 NotSupporting wrote: Why does it say T1 and P5? Why the numbers?
It reflects the colors. For example, 1 is teal, 2 is red... 5 is yellow. Just to help the viewers know which color the players are, in case they don't know much about Starcraft and can't tell the race units apart.
On May 11 2008 06:36 DukE wrote: who are these commentators? im really enjoying the quality of the commentating. just got in recently, didn't hear any introduction =(
dude with the manly voice = manifesto Canadian accent = chill other guy = artosis
Hot damn. I'm _really_ impressed with how well TSL pulled this off. It really does look like a Starleague. Everything is top class. Even the player summaries are first-rate. Respect.
Hm, maybe for the next round, we could have replay with text so we actually see the GG? Seriously, it's strange just seeing the game end without some player saying anything, lol.
It's a Replay to prevent lag (played right after the game is played), the commentary is live, they dont know the results. Dude with the clear voice is Chill, deep voice is Manifesto7, last one is Artosis, Kennigit camera man. Red supply = at or above limit, yellow = 2under limit. Streamlink for VLC or other mediaplayer: mmsh://hatchery.teamliquid.net999/
lol, i am loving the food count. Did you see both of them macroing??? Cloud had the advantage but JF caught up with him, till boith armys with same units and same unitcounts clashed, and afterwards, he had double count as Cloud had. He must be godlike ...
On May 11 2008 07:13 Spike wrote: my main problem is that the commentary doesn't sync up well with the camera work, otherwise gj
kenn is doing the camera, and i would assume the commentators are obsing the same replay, so you get more insight that you would if you were just watching the video
On May 11 2008 07:13 Spike wrote: my main problem is that the commentary doesn't sync up well with the camera work, otherwise gj
kenn is doing the camera, and i would assume the commentators are obsing the same replay, so you get more insight that you would if you were just watching the video
i understand whats they're doing, just don't like the execution for some reason.
sometimes the camera sees something important but it isn't being commented on, and vice versa.
dunno, maybe i just like it better if the camera follows the comment more, or if the comment follow the camera more.
lol wtf don't know how to keep mienrals under 200 when ur making ultralisks? wtf haha he has double gas expos and tons of mineral onlys how hard is it to keep resources down with ultras building -_-;
On May 11 2008 07:38 alffla wrote: lol wtf don't know how to keep mienrals under 200 when ur making ultralisks? wtf haha he has double gas expos and tons of mineral onlys how hard is it to keep resources down with ultras building -_-;
I don't know how you stay under 200 making ultras when ultras cost 200 minerals. =P
Side note: I want to hear Manifesto sing Chocolate Rain.
i got home at 5am then 6 am TSL league is on !! i wont get any sleep !!. and i got to give a girl some loving today not sure if i can perform with lack of sleep and hang over...
woww wowowo wow just saw the intro, wasnt here earlier- my god is it good. I really think with the TSL's help the foreign community will grow and become much much better. If the players have the drive and the confidence, maybe someday we will be able to compete with the Koreans?
On May 11 2008 07:47 gH-Nitrous wrote: i got home at 5am then 6 am TSL league is on !! i wont get any sleep !!. and i got to give a girl some loving today not sure if i can perform with lack of sleep and hang over...
You can do it. Its 6:50, Im yet to sleep and its mothers day (Im a great son)
Krrrr played like complete dogshit. D+ at best. the first game after he gave the zerg that macro advantage, he didn't respond to it at all. the second game he just gave away. as a protoss player it was very pathetic to watch. I imagine playing under such pressure may have been too much for him.
On May 11 2008 08:13 ScarFace wrote: kr didnt gg lol
It's a rep, no txt.
IT'S A REPLAY??!?!?
[Lyset] It's a Replay to prevent lag (played right after the game is played), the commentary is live, they dont know the results. Dude with the clear voice is Chill, deep voice is Manifesto7, last one is Artosis, Kennigit camera man. Red supply = at or above limit, yellow = 2under limit. Streamlink for VLC or other mediaplayer: mmsh://hatchery.teamliquid.net999/
Krrrr played like complete dogshit. D+ at best. the first game after he gave the zerg that macro advantage, he didn't respond to it at all. the second game he just gave away. as a protoss player it was very pathetic to watch. I imagine playing under such pressure may have been too much for him.
Krrrr played like complete dogshit. D+ at best. the first game after he gave the zerg that macro advantage, he didn't respond to it at all. the second game he just gave away. as a protoss player it was very pathetic to watch. I imagine playing under such pressure may have been too much for him.
This comes from the guy who wasnt good enough to get into the TSL?? Why dont you shut the fuck up and just enjoy the games. Kr would own you like the little piece of shit you are.
On May 11 2008 08:22 Durak wrote: Some of my friends had that problem and switching to fullscreen fixed it.
I'd say traffic. VLC is quite streamlined.
Yeah - in between games I switch out of fullscreen - and thats when it lags/stops working - haha - that would make an interesting bit of technical trouble
The banners for TSL inbetween matches are so awesome. The intro is so cool resembling to some extent the OSL intro. The probe that repairs the star from TSL is magical.
At the end of the intro video, they show the 4 commentators. The one on the far right is Manifesto I think, anyone know who's who for the rest of them?
but to be honest...it was more like ra lost the game rather than idra winning the game.... it will go 2-1 in white_ras favour, no doubt about this anymore!
terrible terrible decision of ra to sacrifice his expo. he could have stopped the push easily with carriers and then waited until his fleet was big enough. so stupid to go harass. =/
gosia vs kr second game was also just really bad decision making by kr. always surprising to see such good players make such bad calls.
On May 11 2008 08:54 Asta wrote: terrible terrible decision of ra to sacrifice his expo. he could have stopped the push easily with carriers and then waited until his fleet was big enough. so stupid to go harass. =/
gosia vs kr second game was also just really bad decision making by kr. always surprising to see such good players make such bad calls.
if you're used to watching korean pro's play, then yes, this play by comparison will be sloppy. Remember the level of scouting both players got (it was near none).
ra probably thought that he had to sack the expo, and probably correctly- the turrets would have killed most of the interceptors, and those are expensive. And as the commentators said several times, it was a low econ game.
I didn't see the 1st 2 games, but idra was trying to do way too much in the last game. Quicky academy, armory, ebay, 3rd base, and enough factories to do a 2 base timing.
On May 11 2008 09:08 OakHill wrote: can someone tell me why even protoss even bother going carriers if a ground force of zealots & dragoons are that effective?
Because its not. White ra just had good timing and a big avantage going into that fight
On May 11 2008 09:08 OakHill wrote: can someone tell me why even protoss even bother going carriers if a ground force of zealots & dragoons are that effective?
He caught idra with his pants down, idra didnt have mines laid properly because he wanted to set up shop at his 2nd natural i believe.
geez white ra spent all that money on carriers and a third expo and STILL ran over idra's army >.> IMBA IMBA IMBA!!! gg and excellent commentary, if you guys aren't already, you should be getting paid by razer
On May 11 2008 09:08 OakHill wrote: can someone tell me why even protoss even bother going carriers if a ground force of zealots & dragoons are that effective?
On May 11 2008 09:06 Chesskid1 wrote: hey guys, new member here, TSL has caused me to join. i don't really play that much, but this is really inspiring me too. class act.
Bad play by Idra in the Zodiac game. First, he scouted fast nexus but built CC in base despite having more than enough marines +tank (he may have started it before seeing it but I think he saw the fast nexus before starting CC) and then was really cautious about moving out to natural, even making an scv from his 2nd CC before floating it, despite seeing fast nexus. This put him behind economically. Then he didn't get map vision to see how late White-Ra's 3rd base was, but eventually I think he knew and he should've known mass timing attack was inevitable in that situation, I just don't get what he was thinking.
Say whatever you want, but imo Idra is just too stupid to achieve top place. i mean he got speed, good macro, knows mechanics and bo's well, but he plays without brain. He can outplay anyone in single battle using his super-fucking-awesome micro, but right after he is dead without any concept. He is just too stupid. He was never even top20 outside kor and never will be.
Besides, in the second game. Imagine Idra were toss. There would had been like: "wtf, you freak, noob, lolz, turret-noob, so many turrets, haha u cant play kid?"
Idra performance just seemed to be affected alot by his mental state of mind, he was either really nervous or just didn't care enough. He played extremly passive in all games at the complete wrong times. He seemed overwhelmed by White_Ras play at times.
In game 2, his comeback was nice, but it was made possible beacuse of White_Ras bad play with his carriers, and not saving his expo.
On May 11 2008 09:17 lucb wrote: Say whatever you want, but imo Idra is just too stupid to achieve top place. i mean he got speed, good macro, knows mechanics and bo's well, but he plays without brain. He can outplay anyone in single battle using his super-fucking-awesome micro, but right after he is dead without any concept. He is just too stupid. He was never even top20 outside kor and never will be.
Besides, in the second game. Imagine Idra were toss. There would had been like: "wtf, you freak, noob, lolz, turret-noob, so many turrets, haha u cant play kid?"
On May 11 2008 09:17 lucb wrote: Say whatever you want, but imo Idra is just too stupid to achieve top place. i mean he got speed, good macro, knows mechanics and bo's well, but he plays without brain. He can outplay anyone in single battle using his super-fucking-awesome micro, but right after he is dead without any concept. He is just too stupid. He was never even top20 outside kor and never will be.
Besides, in the second game. Imagine Idra were toss. There would had been like: "wtf, you freak, noob, lolz, turret-noob, so many turrets, haha u cant play kid?"
LOL sure he was and is top20 outside korea although I think players like white-ra,strelok, draco, jf, nony and above all mondragon are more talented than idra.
it just feels so great if someone says that he is going to finish first and just gets raped in the first round (of the last 16)! furthermore, by such a mannered and nice player like ra!! great!
On May 11 2008 10:01 Kennigit wrote: Yeah we are just chopping up the vods now. They should be up...in....well not sure. They'll be up before tomorrow's matches
So are the vods only going to be on the site? Or are they also going on the tracker?
Very well done event guys, I was here all day waiting for it and sat through the whole thing, and I can't wait till tomorow! I love the probe begining, it's like pure sex every time I see it, the commentating was good, intro videos good, the chat room was a great idea and the whole layout of the tsl sight looks great, good job to everyone involved and another big thanks to razer.
used the vlc stream had basically no problem...think it only went down twice and never during a game just between games. Also never had buffering problems or any type of lag during the games. Great job TSL with the stream quality, commentating, everything. Who gives a shit if they showed replays seriously? No one would even know if its a replay if they didn't say anything. No results were spoiled before hand and the commentating crew had no idea who won so the fact that it was replay is a total non-issue
Yeah seriously people are throwing a bitch fit because they are replays when it hardly matters at all and they just do it to make things run smoother for the players themselves and for us to watch. Noone knew the results...so seriously what does it matter.
I'm sorry I hve been looking on all sites and all threads and cant find any replays or vods. can someone link me to the page of vods if their is one cause im guessing theirs no replays cause i havent even seen ANY mention of that. thanks alot. sadly I am busy on the weekends and i missed this, and will sadly miss tomorrows as well. SO UPSET but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RELEASE SOME VODS OR REPS ;(
Simply awesome...Great quality stream, production, organization, everything. Great job to everyone on TL and affiliates behind the scenes making this happen, and to Razor for supporting such a great game/community!
kinda disappointing to see such a weak player in korea... i mean as others have said it, u could clearly see that idra lacks understanding of the game/strategy. If Draco couldn't make it in Korea (obviously he is quite an intelligent player), I am 100% sure Idra cant as well. Pure Mechanics won't bring you to the top, especially since Idras mechanics are nothing special in Korea. The interview and the games showed me how unintelligent this kid is and I'd recommend to stop wasting time in korea and move back to USA asap, since there is no chance in hell he will even pass courage league imo.
Could you give Draco's 1st game's replay to Tasteless so he could make a VOD since you miss this one ? If not Tasteless then anybody else, so we could have this game in form of a VOD at least, plz !
On May 11 2008 19:40 diehilde wrote: kinda disappointing to see such a weak player in korea... i mean as others have said it, u could clearly see that idra lacks understanding of the game/strategy. If Draco couldn't make it in Korea (obviously he is quite an intelligent player), I am 100% sure Idra cant as well. Pure Mechanics won't bring you to the top, especially since Idras mechanics are nothing special in Korea. The interview and the games showed me how unintelligent this kid is and I'd recommend to stop wasting time in korea and move back to USA asap, since there is no chance in hell he will even pass courage league imo.
Seriously, this just so wrong ~~ Whatever the reason he lost it surly wasn't lack of intelligence.
The first game was lost cause Ra microed better period.
The second game Idra won on gamesense, then lost due to bad multitasking, then somehow won again due to mechanics+allaround insane play.
The third was lost due to bad micro, possibly situation reading as well, (maybe should have waited for a couple of more vultures)
There was absolutely nothing "unintelligent" in the games (by either player)
On May 11 2008 19:44 Musli wrote: Could you give Draco's 1st game's replay to Tasteless so he could make a VOD since you miss this one ? If not Tasteless then anybody else, so we could have this game in form of a VOD at least, plz !
I second that, since I missed the goddamn thing : (
On May 11 2008 19:40 diehilde wrote: kinda disappointing to see such a weak player in korea...
And keep in mind, the tournament through which he qualified for Korea was an invite tournament consisting of ~90% American players, if I remember correctly. So he's far from the best that the foreigners could've sent as their representative to Korea. Oh well, please get better Idra soon so you can back up your trash talk someday (like Oov and his former cockiness).
On May 11 2008 19:44 Musli wrote: Could you give Draco's 1st game's replay to Tasteless so he could make a VOD since you miss this one ? If not Tasteless then anybody else, so we could have this game in form of a VOD at least, plz !
I second that, since I missed the goddamn thing : (
I agree with this. When I follow a tournament, I want to watch all the matches. Doesnt need to be Tasteless who is commentating, as long as there is made a VOD of this.
I want to point out that the tournament has been interesting so far. Good work and thank you to all involved in this.
Fear Dreiven's PvZ!!! Behold his flawless use of maelstrom, his disgusting butchery of the misunderstood Ultralisk using the lightning-harnessing powers of the templar.
On May 11 2008 09:17 lucb wrote: Say whatever you want, but imo Idra is just too stupid to achieve top place. i mean he got speed, good macro, knows mechanics and bo's well, but he plays without brain. He can outplay anyone in single battle using his super-fucking-awesome micro, but right after he is dead without any concept. He is just too stupid. He was never even top20 outside kor and never will be.
Besides, in the second game. Imagine Idra were toss. There would had been like: "wtf, you freak, noob, lolz, turret-noob, so many turrets, haha u cant play kid?"
I don't know what your personal problem is with Idra...
White-Ra is the #1 or #2 protoss in the entire tournament. It's not bad to lose to White-Ra, in fact it's expected of most players. Idra won game #2 when 95% of Terran would lose in that situation. After Korea, Idra's sense of timing is at least top 3 foreign as shown in game 2 & dashwriter game so that makes him at least top20 outside korea especially when people below top10 timing aren't as good.
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