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TL.net Attack! (Episode 3, 03/09) - Page 3

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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-05 22:12:23
March 05 2008 16:16 GMT
#41
I really, really enjoyed episode two guys. Very professional and very entertaining. Three hours of just having fun and playing some good games, that's fucking amazing. Looking forward to episode three, and I'm gonna try to get as many viewers from GG.net as I can. Thanks for providing fans of the foreign scene something really unique and enjoyable, yo


edit: Should I mention that NonY is a really cool dude, so Im looking forward to hearing his insight, should be better than last week. NonY fighting :>

edit2: I really hope I did this justice, guys...
http://sc.gosugamers.net/news/8070-teamliquid-attack-an-event-for-everyone
Chains none
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 05 2008 17:04 GMT
#42
ROFLCOPTERS TYLER?!? ^_^
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
March 05 2008 19:11 GMT
#43
Is ._. the real Hovz, or is Hovz a (fake) smurf from ._.?
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1603 Posts
March 05 2008 21:06 GMT
#44
Let's rename it [Media] Attack!
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 05 2008 21:10 GMT
#45
next we can have Artosis ^_^
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 05 2008 22:04 GMT
#46
I got a little worried that this would become media attack asel...wait till you see our next guest
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-05 23:07:27
March 05 2008 23:07 GMT
#47
dont forget ret!

Who cares if it's media or not, this shit is awesome
Gör om, gör rätt
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
March 06 2008 01:44 GMT
#48
nice to see others comunitys helping to get a bigger audience ^^
NiGoL-X17
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden34 Posts
March 06 2008 17:30 GMT
#49
Lol, is it really HovZ?


gl nony.
i fear no players
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
March 07 2008 05:01 GMT
#50
Just a heads up, daylight saving time begins in the US on Sunday, so TL.net Attack! will be still be at 5pm Eastern, but 8am (instead of 7am) Korean time. Don't forget to update your clocks and tune in at the right time!
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
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Danger_Duck
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Burkina Faso571 Posts
March 07 2008 07:45 GMT
#51
What's Nony's record against Idra? I know they are same team, but I'm just curious because after watching FPVODs of Nony, I feel like he could play on a Korean team, no joke.
TBA
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 07 2008 16:57 GMT
#52
idra has a winning record vs me. but in recent months, i have improved my PvT a lot, and also current maps tend to be p>t, so i think we are pretty evenly matched nowadays.

i think there are certain games and situations when i can play as well as a low-level pro team member. but there are many other times when i play a lot worse. then again, how much consistency can they expect before the mass gaming of being a pro starts to kick in? who knows~
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
March 08 2008 01:26 GMT
#53
Also, for the commentators: you guys should stop saying "okay lets get this over with" or the like. I understand when the game looks over and we want to get another match going, but that comment just seems... i dunno, negative or unsportsmanlike. It feels like "yawn, okay we're done dicking around with the noob, just get it over with."

I wouldnt mind seeing a more aggressive spin on it though, like "now move in for the DEATHBLOW!" - at least that one says "im not entirely bored but you can still wipe this guy out soon"

just my two cents on it
Moonlight Shadow
sMi.LiquiD
Profile Joined March 2008
United States3 Posts
March 08 2008 03:00 GMT
#54
nice ill be there
Our friendship can be the stuff of legend.
sMi.LiquiD
Profile Joined March 2008
United States3 Posts
March 08 2008 03:02 GMT
#55
oo
Our friendship can be the stuff of legend.
Danger_Duck
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Burkina Faso571 Posts
March 08 2008 20:43 GMT
#56
I hope someone will do a hidden Speedlot build after the first expo...*hint hint* to a decent toss.

Seriously, though. Surprise speedlots almost always win the game in any matchup. Though I must say they almost always lose the game if the opponent finds out about them...

Anyway, how's this hidden speedlot build? (I'm not a fan of exact numbers in build orders, so I'll have to apologize in advance to anyone who wanted numbers).

8p/10gate-> standard 2 gate build

-Fake goon range until scouting probe gets taken out.
-While this happens, put down citadel at hidden location (for instance, in Python, my favorite hiding spots are the top of 7 o clock starting position by min-only)
-Cancel goon range and research zealot speed instead, adding an additional gateway.
-Move out with your small goon/lot force to fake expansion. Make sure to deny further scouts (so 3 goons are needed for 1 shot kill on scouting probes)
-Pump zealots ftw.

Rationale: The standard protoss goes robo->reaver/obs. He will also usually expo. If timed right, zealots will be breaking down your opponent before the reaver finishes.
-If your opponent dt rushes instead, you're pretty screwed, so you may want a forge/cannon for defense. This may slow you down, but you can use the extra gas to upgrade I guess. This is obviously the weakness of the build.

But like I said, I only promised a near all-in build that works against most opponents no matter what the skill level since 3-gate speed zealot > (2-gate goon +reaver still building+ expo) or (3-gate goon + expo + even slower robo).

In the meantime, you can expo and actually research goon range for real when you have the gas for it (which since you're not pumping goons, is pretty soon. The extra gas will also allow you to get your robo facility and obs

Finally, it's not quite *all in* because as long as you deliver substantial damage before shuttle/reaver kicks in, you can retreat zealots, and the beauty is your opponent won't dare reaver drop for some time since that reaver is all that separates him from dying by speedlot at home
By that time, you should have your goon range up, your expo running, and observers in the air.

Before you flame me, please give it a try or explain why this is a bad quasi-all-in (don't nitpick on details). I'm all ears. Like I said, the build is vulnerable to dts, but I'm not sure what else it's vulnerable to (other than good scouting).

But yeah, please critique and hopefully gimme some "constructive" criticism. I just REALLY REALLY love speedlots.
TBA
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 08 2008 23:10 GMT
#57
Nicee, I wanna play
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
March 09 2008 03:22 GMT
#58
Another reminder, this begins at 6am on Monday Korean time, 5pm Sunday Eastern US time. If you're in the US, daylight saving time begins SUNDAY at 1am (clocks go forward 1hr).

Since I know daylight saving time is going to catch at least one of you unaware!
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
TL+ Member
ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
March 09 2008 09:38 GMT
#59
I will be there and listen to you guys. Hope it's as exciting as the last one.
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 09 2008 11:23 GMT
#60
hmm, about daylight saving time...
Europe doesnt change until the last sunday of march, so if I think the times in CET and GMT will be one hour earlier than what's in the OP?
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