I really, really enjoyed episode two guys. Very professional and very entertaining. Three hours of just having fun and playing some good games, that's fucking amazing. Looking forward to episode three, and I'm gonna try to get as many viewers from GG.net as I can. Thanks for providing fans of the foreign scene something really unique and enjoyable, yo

edit: Should I mention that NonY is a really cool dude, so Im looking forward to hearing his insight, should be better than last week. NonY fighting :>

edit2: I really hope I did this justice, guys...
http://sc.gosugamers.net/news/8070-teamliquid-attack-an-event-for-everyone

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

March 05 2008 17:04 GMT

#42

ROFLCOPTERS TYLER?!? ^_^

Yizuo

Germany1537 Posts

March 05 2008 19:11 GMT

#43

Is ._. the real Hovz, or is Hovz a (fake) smurf from ._.?

asel

Germany1601 Posts

March 05 2008 21:06 GMT

#44

Let's rename it [Media] Attack!

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

March 05 2008 21:10 GMT

#45

next we can have Artosis ^_^

Kennigit

Canada19447 Posts

March 05 2008 22:04 GMT

#46

I got a little worried that this would become media attack asel...wait till you see our next guest

JoxxOr

Sweden1502 Posts

March 05 2008 23:07 GMT

#47

dont forget ret!

Who cares if it's media or not, this shit is awesome

MeriaDoKk

Chile1726 Posts

March 06 2008 01:44 GMT

#48

nice to see others comunitys helping to get a bigger audience ^^

NiGoL-X17

Sweden34 Posts

March 06 2008 17:30 GMT

#49

Lol, is it really HovZ?

gl nony.

R1CH

Netherlands10341 Posts

March 07 2008 05:01 GMT

#50

Just a heads up, daylight saving time begins in the US on Sunday, so TL.net Attack! will be still be at 5pm Eastern, but 8am (instead of 7am) Korean time. Don't forget to update your clocks and tune in at the right time!

Danger_Duck

Burkina Faso571 Posts

March 07 2008 07:45 GMT

#51

What's Nony's record against Idra? I know they are same team, but I'm just curious because after watching FPVODs of Nony, I feel like he could play on a Korean team, no joke.

NonY

8751 Posts

March 07 2008 16:57 GMT

#52

idra has a winning record vs me. but in recent months, i have improved my PvT a lot, and also current maps tend to be p>t, so i think we are pretty evenly matched nowadays.

i think there are certain games and situations when i can play as well as a low-level pro team member. but there are many other times when i play a lot worse. then again, how much consistency can they expect before the mass gaming of being a pro starts to kick in? who knows~

useLess

United States4781 Posts

March 08 2008 01:26 GMT

#53

Also, for the commentators: you guys should stop saying "okay lets get this over with" or the like. I understand when the game looks over and we want to get another match going, but that comment just seems... i dunno, negative or unsportsmanlike. It feels like "yawn, okay we're done dicking around with the noob, just get it over with."

I wouldnt mind seeing a more aggressive spin on it though, like "now move in for the DEATHBLOW!" - at least that one says "im not entirely bored but you can still wipe this guy out soon"

just my two cents on it

sMi.LiquiD

United States3 Posts

March 08 2008 03:00 GMT

#54

nice ill be there

sMi.LiquiD

United States3 Posts

March 08 2008 03:02 GMT

#55

Danger_Duck

Burkina Faso571 Posts

March 08 2008 20:43 GMT

#56

I hope someone will do a hidden Speedlot build after the first expo...*hint hint* to a decent toss.

Seriously, though. Surprise speedlots almost always win the game in any matchup. Though I must say they almost always lose the game if the opponent finds out about them...

Anyway, how's this hidden speedlot build? (I'm not a fan of exact numbers in build orders, so I'll have to apologize in advance to anyone who wanted numbers).

8p/10gate-> standard 2 gate build

-Fake goon range until scouting probe gets taken out.
-While this happens, put down citadel at hidden location (for instance, in Python, my favorite hiding spots are the top of 7 o clock starting position by min-only)
-Cancel goon range and research zealot speed instead, adding an additional gateway.
-Move out with your small goon/lot force to fake expansion. Make sure to deny further scouts (so 3 goons are needed for 1 shot kill on scouting probes)
-Pump zealots ftw.

Rationale: The standard protoss goes robo->reaver/obs. He will also usually expo. If timed right, zealots will be breaking down your opponent before the reaver finishes.
-If your opponent dt rushes instead, you're pretty screwed, so you may want a forge/cannon for defense. This may slow you down, but you can use the extra gas to upgrade I guess. This is obviously the weakness of the build.

But like I said, I only promised a near all-in build that works against most opponents no matter what the skill level since 3-gate speed zealot > (2-gate goon +reaver still building+ expo) or (3-gate goon + expo + even slower robo).

In the meantime, you can expo and actually research goon range for real when you have the gas for it (which since you're not pumping goons, is pretty soon. The extra gas will also allow you to get your robo facility and obs

Finally, it's not quite *all in* because as long as you deliver substantial damage before shuttle/reaver kicks in, you can retreat zealots, and the beauty is your opponent won't dare reaver drop for some time since that reaver is all that separates him from dying by speedlot at home

By that time, you should have your goon range up, your expo running, and observers in the air.

Before you flame me, please give it a try or explain why this is a bad quasi-all-in (don't nitpick on details). I'm all ears. Like I said, the build is vulnerable to dts, but I'm not sure what else it's vulnerable to (other than good scouting).

But yeah, please critique and hopefully gimme some "constructive" criticism. I just REALLY REALLY love speedlots.

Cloud

Sexico5880 Posts

March 08 2008 23:10 GMT

#57

Nicee, I wanna play

R1CH

Netherlands10341 Posts

March 09 2008 03:22 GMT

#58

Another reminder, this begins at 6am on Monday Korean time, 5pm Sunday Eastern US time. If you're in the US, daylight saving time begins SUNDAY at 1am (clocks go forward 1hr).

Since I know daylight saving time is going to catch at least one of you unaware!

ionize

Ireland399 Posts

March 09 2008 09:38 GMT

#59

I will be there and listen to you guys. Hope it's as exciting as the last one.

Cascade

Australia5405 Posts

March 09 2008 11:23 GMT

#60

hmm, about daylight saving time...
Europe doesnt change until the last sunday of march, so if I think the times in CET and GMT will be one hour earlier than what's in the OP?

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