EPT[MLG] Day 3 Recap - Winter Championship ('13) - Page 6
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Brett
Australia3823 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On March 19 2013 15:55 fluidin wrote: ITT: Life being overhyped. He pretty much rolled Flash, yes, but I think that was also hugely because Flash was unprepared. You would have to be blind not to recognize that. Life played amazing otherwise, but like others have mentioned I too felt Life could have lost it against Polt and Last. I understand that this is probably a very emotional triumph for Zerg/ESF fans though. HOTS is still very new. While the top tier players now are likely to remain at the top, new ones are still very likely to break into these ranks. And shuffling of positions amongst the top will be inevitable. Life is not overhyped. He is arguably the best player in the world now. If anything,he deserves the hype. The only Royal Roader in SC2. Pulling a fruitdealer-esque run in the first HotS run when the rest of the zergs has fallen. Sure Polt and Last almost beat Life but Life have always been clutch. Remember Leenock vs Life? Or the reverse 0-3 to 4-3 against DRG? And he is only 16 years old. Life is a prodigy. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On March 19 2013 21:18 FakeDeath wrote: Life is a prodigy. Life is THE prodigy  . | ||
nimdil
Poland3774 Posts
On March 19 2013 21:18 FakeDeath wrote: Life is not overhyped. He is arguably the best player in the world now. If anything,he deserves the hype. The only Royal Roader in SC2. Pulling a fruitdealer-esque run in the first HotS run when the rest of the zergs has fallen. Sure Polt and Last almost beat Life but Life have always been clutch. Remember Leenock vs Life? Or the reverse 0-3 to 4-3 against DRG? And he is only 16 years old. Life is a prodigy. RorO begs to differ. Life still has something to prove, but he is going the right direction. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 19 2013 22:36 nimdil wrote: RorO begs to differ. Life still has something to prove, but he is going the right direction. Nah, Roro has something to prove before he can "beg to differ". 5 major tournament wins in as many months is, I believe, unmatched in Starcraft II. He still has more to do before he can legitimately be considered a "bonjwa" or whatever word you want to use for "really fucking good", but even if Life were to fall off tomorrow he'd still have one of the half-year periods of all time. | ||
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Teodice
Sweden641 Posts
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Trasko
Sweden983 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On March 19 2013 15:55 fluidin wrote: ITT: Life being overhyped. He pretty much rolled Flash, yes, but I think that was also hugely because Flash was unprepared. You would have to be blind not to recognize that. Life played amazing otherwise, but like others have mentioned I too felt Life could have lost it against Polt and Last. I understand that this is probably a very emotional triumph for Zerg/ESF fans though. HOTS is still very new. While the top tier players now are likely to remain at the top, new ones are still very likely to break into these ranks. And shuffling of positions amongst the top will be inevitable. I agree with everything except Life being overhyped... how can somebody who has 2 GSL championships, back to back MLG wins, and multiple amazing performances be overhyped? He is very obviously the best player if not top 2 or 3 MAYBE players in the world. You can't really "overhype" that. On March 19 2013 22:36 nimdil wrote: RorO begs to differ. Life still has something to prove, but he is going the right direction. RorO has 1 GSL championship. Life has 2, 2 MLGs, and 1st place in Iron Squid 2 after a reverse sweep of DRG. RorO is certainly good but he is so far from the proper example to disprove Life's ability. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3774 Posts
On March 19 2013 23:47 Zealously wrote: Nah, Roro has something to prove before he can "beg to differ". 5 major tournament wins in as many months is, I believe, unmatched in Starcraft II. He still has more to do before he can legitimately be considered a "bonjwa" or whatever word you want to use for "really fucking good", but even if Life were to fall off tomorrow he'd still have one of the half-year periods of all time. Depends on the definition. Life won 5 Premier events between his GSL and this MLG. But if we talk about Major+ tournaments... well: MMA between June 2011 and January 2012 won 4 Premier (IEM Kiev, BlizzCup, GSL, MLG) and 1 major (GeForce Pro/Am) Mvp between 31 July and 11th December won 4 Premier (WCG, BlizzCon, GSL, MLG) and 1 major (Arena of Legends: Team Ace) MC between 10th Dec and 12th June won 2 Premier (2 x GSL) and 3 major (StarsWar Killer 6, DreamHack Invitational and Copenhagen Spring of Games). DRG between January and June 2012 won 2 Premier (GSL, MLG Spring) and 3 major (MLG Spring Arena, FXOpen Invitational, Arena of Legends: King of Kongs) so yea, Life is really something unseen on the scene. 5 premier titles is more than anyone except Mvp and MMA have in total and he won them so fast... @Alryk My point is not based on number of titles but on the fact, that en route to the title, RorO crashed Life and it didn't look like much of a problem. Also season earlier Soulkey defeated Life 2-0 twice. In this MLG Life wasn't really challenged in ZvZ. Life is dominating but it looks like well prepared good zerg can give him a run for his money. Also Life has 1 GSL and 1 Blizzard Cup. Not quite the same thing. | ||
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fluidin
Singapore1084 Posts
On March 20 2013 01:00 Alryk wrote: I agree with everything except Life being overhyped... how can somebody who has 2 GSL championships, back to back MLG wins, and multiple amazing performances be overhyped? He is very obviously the best player if not top 2 or 3 MAYBE players in the world. You can't really "overhype" that. If you read some of the comments and praise people heap on Life, you will know what I mean. Perhaps this is also my personality of being reluctant to sing praises when not fully convinced (yet). | ||
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JayConn
United States408 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On March 20 2013 04:56 JayConn wrote: I really hope Flash VS Life continues as an awesome rivalry. If history repeats, there will be a power outage in their next finals. | ||
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PlatinumAngel
Czech Republic16 Posts
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Howl41
United States65 Posts
 . It seems like overall foreign terrans just cant get to that same tier that foreign Zerg and Protoss are at. Dont think its really fair for Life to say that Zerg is weak because they got stomped on in this tourney considering that 8 of the 10 Zergs were foreigners and we know that the Koreans are on another level. Only 2 foreign Protoss took games off of Koreans(both of which happened to be Terran). | ||
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JtoK
Germany232 Posts
I didnt like the noise of the other stages you could hear on the stream. Was kinda annoying, but after a few hours into the tournament I got used to it. | ||
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Pasargadae
Korea (South)173 Posts
It's sad to even think of it, but it seems like Life is the "young blood" of the scene, bringing unbeatable mechanics and decision-making to the table. He's repeating what Flash did when Flash was first starting his career. I'm a huge fan of Flash, but I can't help to disagree with others who claim Flash is still going to improve, or that he wasn't playing to all his capabilities. If that's truly the case, what can we say about Life? 5 years his junior, major accomplishments over a ridiculous span of time, and still getting better. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but it looks like Life is here to replace the kings of old. | ||
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
On March 20 2013 13:51 Pasargadae wrote: Is the end of Flash? It's sad to even think of it, but it seems like Life is the "young blood" of the scene, bringing unbeatable mechanics and decision-making to the table. He's repeating what Flash did when Flash was first starting his career. I'm a huge fan of Flash, but I can't help to disagree with others who claim Flash is still going to improve, or that he wasn't playing to all his capabilities. If that's truly the case, what can we say about Life? 5 years his junior, major accomplishments over a ridiculous span of time, and still getting better. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but it looks like Life is here to replace the kings of old. I think you underestimate what Flash has already done in SC2. He was god in Broodwar and entered SC2 with the greatest expectations possible and he is very close to fulfilling them. That alone is an achievement hardly anyone else has reached. Jaedong, Stork, Bisu, Moon, Grubby, where are they now? Yes, maybe Flash wont become as dominant as he was in Broodwar, but even coming close to that in SC2 would be incredible. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3774 Posts
On March 20 2013 19:10 marcesr wrote: I think you underestimate what Flash has already done in SC2. He was god in Broodwar and entered SC2 with the greatest expectations possible and he is very close to fulfilling them. That alone is an achievement hardly anyone else has reached. Jaedong, Stork, Bisu, Moon, Grubby, where are they now? Yes, maybe Flash wont become as dominant as he was in Broodwar, but even coming close to that in SC2 would be incredible. When you put it that way, then yea - it is a success. However in SC2 this is only a consolation prize. | ||
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
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KuroYami
United States6 Posts
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