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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 12 2013 13:38 GMT
#21
On March 12 2013 21:40 beefITek wrote:
It's like Hots hasn't really change anything about balance :

Only best koreens can play terran
Almost all noobi foreigners can play zerg ...

boring but at least we have same amount of payer for each race, even though skills of those players really differ depending of which race they play ........

User was warned for this post


The ignorance is strong with this one.

I'm actually quite pleased with the Protoss results so far- it's been so long since we've seen much from Toss!
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 12 2013 13:46 GMT
#22
Haha, love the idra joke, them faulty "g" buttons :D

Some top notch players at MLG gotta be a great HotS tournament coming up !
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 14:00:47
March 12 2013 13:56 GMT
#23
On March 12 2013 22:23 Incognoto wrote:
Now with 100% less Idra? Why take cheap shots at Idra? I must have missed recent drama or something..

oh well, great mlg coming up


I think it is because there is a big portrait of Idra in the title art. Anyways, this event will be sick, though some players sure have pulled the short straw with their seeding, haha! :D

edit:

On March 12 2013 22:38 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 21:40 beefITek wrote:
It's like Hots hasn't really change anything about balance :

Only best koreens can play terran
Almost all noobi foreigners can play zerg ...

boring but at least we have same amount of payer for each race, even though skills of those players really differ depending of which race they play ........

User was warned for this post


The ignorance is strong with this one.

I'm actually quite pleased with the Protoss results so far- it's been so long since we've seen much from Toss!


Well, the numbers (which he does not mention) are undeniable, the rest is interpretation. :-)
But I wouldn't interpret too much into them anyways, Thorzain is the only non-Korean terran they invited to participate in the first place. :'-(
DarK[A]
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States217 Posts
March 12 2013 14:30 GMT
#24
I don't blame IdrA for being upset this time. I haven't exactly been following HotS or SC2 in general super closely lately, but I do remember seeing IdrA all over twitch at all hours of the day, laddering HotS. If I practiced that much and then was beaten by, in my opinion, a lesser player, I'd be pretty angry at myself too. The history and other conflicts just add to it.

I think right around now is the best time for me to start watching a ton of SC2 again. Flash in Code S, a fresh KeSPA GSL champion, this MLG... yeah, it's decided.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 12 2013 15:29 GMT
#25
On March 12 2013 23:30 DarK[A] wrote:
I don't blame IdrA for being upset this time. I haven't exactly been following HotS or SC2 in general super closely lately, but I do remember seeing IdrA all over twitch at all hours of the day, laddering HotS. If I practiced that much and then was beaten by, in my opinion, a lesser player, I'd be pretty angry at myself too. The history and other conflicts just add to it.

I think right around now is the best time for me to start watching a ton of SC2 again. Flash in Code S, a fresh KeSPA GSL champion, this MLG... yeah, it's decided.


as idra himself said, if you don't get angry at a loss, you don't care enough. that's something that i find respectable
maru lover forever
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
March 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#26
idk why is everyone so surprised about idra getting knocked out. didn't minigun always kick his ass in like, every tournament they met?
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 16:48:03
March 12 2013 16:42 GMT
#27
On March 12 2013 23:30 DarK[A] wrote:
I don't blame IdrA for being upset this time. I haven't exactly been following HotS or SC2 in general super closely lately, but I do remember seeing IdrA all over twitch at all hours of the day, laddering HotS. If I practiced that much and then was beaten by, in my opinion, a lesser player, I'd be pretty angry at myself too. The history and other conflicts just add to it.

I think right around now is the best time for me to start watching a ton of SC2 again. Flash in Code S, a fresh KeSPA GSL champion, this MLG... yeah, it's decided.


Ah why bother replying to this weak mentality, the better prepared player won, and slapped around with his large Trout rather generously.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 16:55:57
March 12 2013 16:55 GMT
#28
On March 13 2013 01:42 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:30 DarK[A] wrote:
I don't blame IdrA for being upset this time. I haven't exactly been following HotS or SC2 in general super closely lately, but I do remember seeing IdrA all over twitch at all hours of the day, laddering HotS. If I practiced that much and then was beaten by, in my opinion, a lesser player, I'd be pretty angry at myself too. The history and other conflicts just add to it.

I think right around now is the best time for me to start watching a ton of SC2 again. Flash in Code S, a fresh KeSPA GSL champion, this MLG... yeah, it's decided.


Ah why bother replying to this weak mentality, the better prepared player won, and slapped around with his large Trout rather generously.


You don't need to be "better prepared" to win end-game as protoss in PvZ ;p And btw idra was one of the players who spent most time playing hots beta.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 17:07:14
March 12 2013 17:05 GMT
#29
On March 13 2013 01:55 ALPINA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 01:42 Lysanias wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:30 DarK[A] wrote:
I don't blame IdrA for being upset this time. I haven't exactly been following HotS or SC2 in general super closely lately, but I do remember seeing IdrA all over twitch at all hours of the day, laddering HotS. If I practiced that much and then was beaten by, in my opinion, a lesser player, I'd be pretty angry at myself too. The history and other conflicts just add to it.

I think right around now is the best time for me to start watching a ton of SC2 again. Flash in Code S, a fresh KeSPA GSL champion, this MLG... yeah, it's decided.


Ah why bother replying to this weak mentality, the better prepared player won, and slapped around with his large Trout rather generously.


You don't need to be "better prepared" to win end-game as protoss in PvZ ;p And btw idra was one of the players who spent most time playing hots beta.


You do need to be good at the game.

You think Startale Life would have lost 3-0? Heeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllll NO.

Don't make excuses for him. He does have every right to be upset at his loss though. He hasn't had any results in a year, it's gotta be tough under that circumstance when this is your full time career and you put so much dedication in it. Unfortunately, not everyone can win.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
YourOldBuddy
Profile Joined December 2011
Iceland94 Posts
March 12 2013 17:32 GMT
#30
Idra's exit was incredibly stupid. He has to stop this.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
March 12 2013 19:01 GMT
#31
Oh, Idra...
In all these years (counting BW) there's never been a great champion with your attitude. I'm guessing there's a causality relationship between the two. So either grow up or retire. It's up to you.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Peacecrafts
Profile Joined October 2012
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 19:10:29
March 12 2013 19:06 GMT
#32
On March 13 2013 01:55 ALPINA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 01:42 Lysanias wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:30 DarK[A] wrote:
I don't blame IdrA for being upset this time. I haven't exactly been following HotS or SC2 in general super closely lately, but I do remember seeing IdrA all over twitch at all hours of the day, laddering HotS. If I practiced that much and then was beaten by, in my opinion, a lesser player, I'd be pretty angry at myself too. The history and other conflicts just add to it.

I think right around now is the best time for me to start watching a ton of SC2 again. Flash in Code S, a fresh KeSPA GSL champion, this MLG... yeah, it's decided.


Ah why bother replying to this weak mentality, the better prepared player won, and slapped around with his large Trout rather generously.


You don't need to be "better prepared" to win end-game as protoss in PvZ ;p And btw idra was one of the players who spent most time playing hots beta.


Spending a lot of time playing/laddering/streaming HoTS doesn't automatically make you good. It's how you spend those time preparing and practicing builds.

Watching IEM WC, casters kept on going on about how some of players spend so much time playing HoTS, yet they got rolled over.
Tamburlaine
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
March 12 2013 19:32 GMT
#33
There's something in that picture that really bugs me, and it took me a while, but I think I figured it out:

[image loading]
I like things.
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
March 12 2013 19:37 GMT
#34
I know IdrA practices a good amount of time... I feel he needs to change something up in his game... i dont really know how to explain it but i feel like he sikes himself out more than he should.
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 12 2013 20:06 GMT
#35
The last game once again showed that Suppy has an affinity for roaches, as he chose to open with a WoL early roach push.


This is something I never would have imagined a month ago.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 12 2013 21:24 GMT
#36
haha wow all the idra banter in this thread!
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Billinator
Profile Joined July 2012
United States86 Posts
March 12 2013 22:41 GMT
#37
On March 12 2013 22:23 Incognoto wrote:
Now with 100% less Idra? Why take cheap shots at Idra? I must have missed recent drama or something..

oh well, great mlg coming up

Not taking shots at idra. there banner art still has idra in it though and they are saying there is 100% less idra because idra is in the banner but not in the tournament. Taking a shot at themselves if anything
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SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
March 13 2013 00:41 GMT
#38
kinda disappointed idra didnt make the cut, he always adds a dynamic of controversy and excitement
Addicted2Dreaming
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 02:33:18
March 13 2013 02:31 GMT
#39
On March 12 2013 21:40 beefITek wrote:
It's like Hots hasn't really change anything about balance :

Only best koreens can play terran
Almost all noobi foreigners can play zerg ...

boring but at least we have same amount of payer for each race, even though skills of those players really differ depending of which race they play ........

User was warned for this post


getting really tired of useless shit like this. tl i think you really need to crack down on this balance whine bullshit. its a goddamn plague on the site. the remotest bit of balance whine should warrant at least a temp imo.
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Meadowlark
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States349 Posts
March 13 2013 03:01 GMT
#40
On March 12 2013 14:43 VKCA wrote:
So disappointed about fenix vs state... definitely looked like a case of nerves, I'm pretty confident that fenix could actually produce some interesting games vs parting whereas state... well he's just going to get rolled, let's be honest. No way a low-average na player can beat a korean in a mirror.. particularly not pvp
unless parting doesn't use voidrays.. but he should.


also, poor ret, bly, and suppy lol
[image loading]

Eh, flash would hardly be the scariest player in this tournament even if it were WoL. Given that it's HotS and that Flash has played very little HotS, I think that most of the other Koreans are actually scarier.
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