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[WCS KR] Ro32 Day 2 Recap/Day 3 Preview

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August 8th, 2012 00:48 GMT

Table of Contents




Ro32: Day Two
Recap


Ro32: Day Three
Preview


Players, brackets, and schedules on Liquipedia



Ro32: Day Two Recap

by Fionn

Results from Live Report Thread by opterown.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Polt vs. Mvp
(T)Polt <Entombed Valley> (T)Mvp
(T)Polt <Ohana> (T)Mvp
(T)Polt <Cloud Kingdom> (T)Mvp

(T)Polt wins 2-1!

TAiLS vs. Happy
(P)TAiLS <Entombed Valley> (T)Happy
(P)TAiLS <Ohana> (T)Happy
(P)TAiLS <Tal'Darim Altar> (T)Happy

(P)TAiLS wins 2-1!

CoCa vs. Seed
(Z)CoCa <Cloud Kingdom> (P)Seed
(Z)CoCa <Daybreak> (P)Seed
(Z)CoCa <Shakuras Plateau> (P)Seed

(P)Seed wins 2-0!

GuMiho vs. Neo.G_Soulkey
(T)GuMiho <Ohana> (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
(T)GuMiho <Entombed Valley> (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
(T)GuMiho <Cloud Kingdom> (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey

(T)GuMiho wins 2-0!


Rock Beats Paper
– Polt topples Mvp for the first time in his career, winning 2 - 1 and moving onto winners bracket.

A year ago, there was a rule that (T)TSL_Polt always beat MMA, MMA always beat (T)LG-IM_Mvp, and Mvp always beat Polt. It was the rock-paper-scissors of the SC2 world that could never be broken. It didn't matter how their conditions were, if you put them in a round robin format, you would have an endless tiebreaker that went on until someone passed out due to exhaustion. Now, in the present, everything is flipped on its head. MMA beat Polt in an online MLG qualifier and at IP4, and with the result last night, Polt was finally to get over his Mvp-sized mountain and beat the player who has defeated him so many times before.

The games went as you would have expected. On the first map, Polt went for a strong timing push after a banshee opening and was able to kill Mvp before he could beef up his mech army. Due to Mvp's choice of going for his own cloaked banshees to try and catch Polt off guard, Mvp didn't have siege tech by the time Polt rolled into his base with siege tanks, bio units and dropships.

Showing he wasn't going to die so easily, Mvp catapulted back with a dominating second game. Polt, known as possibly the best marine-tank player in the world, got completely outplayed in his strongest TvT match-up. Mvp was able to contain Polt early, beat him in positioning and have faster reaction times to complete a blowout victory. Coming into the showdown between two of the best Terrans in the world, you would have thought Polt would have the upper-hand if a game turned into a marine-tank vs. marine-tank fight, but Mvp proved that while he is known primarily for mech, he can win TvT any way he wants.

Coming into the summer, Polt was playing completely off-form in Korea and looking like a player that could fall out of Code A at any time. All his attention was on foreign tournament victories and streaming, leading him to playing worse in Korea. With his decision to stop streaming and drop foreign tournaments outside of Korea for the time being, he has become an unstoppable force in all Korean events. Since losing in embarassing fashion to Dark, a B-teamer on Slayers, in the OSL preliminaries, Polt has not dropped a BoX series.

In the third set, the former OptimusPrime showed why he hasn't been beat in a BoX series in almost two months. He knew what Mvp was going for (mech), knew that Mvp usually gets late siege, and mapped out a build to kill him at the precise time before he could get his four factories rolling with siege tanks popping out at the plenty. With a faster siege timing, marauders, and a dropship to snipe important tech for Mvp, Polt pushed through to get his first series victory against Mvp in his career.

The good news for Mvp fans is that he didn't look bad. In the only real long game in the series, Mvp played marine-tank vs. marine-tank as perfectly as one could hope for. The reason he lost was due to the planning and decision making of his counterpart. In Polt's case, he continues to rise up the ranks. With recent victories against Maru, Hyun, DongRaeGu, and now Mvp in Bo3 series, the Super Tournament champion has made it known that his goal for this tournament is not only to qualify for the Asian finals, but to win the whole shabang.

Happy Zealots
– Protoss continue their Korean dominance as Seed and TAiLS defeat CoCa and Happy.

After almost a year of Protoss depression over their performance in the GSL, they can now smile in glee at how well things are going. (P)LG-IM_Seed, their new, charismatic champion, ended any doubts that he was going to be a one-trick pony that could only do well in a single tournament. Against (Z)SlayerS_CoCa, the MVP of last season's GSTL and a player who has been on fire, Seed showed why he is the champion and Coca is still stuck in Code B.

With a well executed blink stalker push in the first game, he was able to take the first set and put Coca on his heels. Even with a big lead in the second game, having fifteen-plus brood lords and a superior economy, the Slayers player wasn't able to put away Seed. The champion showed why he is the champion, refusing to give up and staying in the game until he got his Mothership out. In the climactic battle, Coca clumped up all his brood lords, let Seed get off a perfect vortex and then throw his archons inside the toilet. When the vortex ended, the game did as well, with Seed killing Coca's entire army in a matter seconds.

It was a game that Coca surely could have won with better positioning of his army, but Seed did what he always does. He hung on long enough to give himself a chance to steal a win, and he was able to turn the tables in one fell swoop. Joining Byun, Symbol, and MC, Coca has now come face-to-face with Seed's ability to turn the impossible into a victory. Capping the win off with a celebration to his sponsor Coca Cola, the newly badged Protoss captured more supporters with his exciting style and maybe even more exciting ceremonies.

In the other Protoss victory of the night, (P)MVP.TAiLS beat (T)LG-IM_Happy in a forgettable series. All three games were short with little to note except the micro mistakes that were made. Tails lost the first game by letting a few stray marines walk into his natural and kill off ten probes without a fight. Luckily for the MVP player, Happy returned the favor with two bad games of his own, giving Tails passage to the next round. Both players will be entering the next round as underdogs, but Happy has the nightmare scenario of having to play Mvp in an elimination round.

The Key to Almost Victory
– Soulkey puts on the best performance of the KeSPA Seven so far, but falls to Gumiho's superior late game play in a 0 - 2 defeat

He is this close to being an amazing player. You watch (Z)Soulkey play, and you can see a Code S-level player blooming. He has the mechanics down, the compositions down, and the micro down. All he needs left is better reaction times and the ability to close out a game, and Soulkey is one KeSPA player that you should expect to be in GSL sooner rather than later.

Exactly like his series against Taeja in the WCG Korean qualifiers, Soulkey started strong. He was strong in the mid-game. He was strong going into the late-game. Then, when it was finally time to end the game, kill Taeja, and put a win on the scoreboard, Soulkey fell apart. Be it from the drops, lack of detection, or clumping his units up, Soulkey just hasn't been able to finish the job. You could see from his series against (T)FXOGuMiho that with maybe another month of practice, that for the next Code A qualifiers that he will almost assuredly enter, Soulkey is a player that no one from KeSPA or GOM will want to he put up against in their bracket.

With even decent drop defense and one overseer with his army, he would have won at least a game, and maybe even the series. Gumiho's cloaked ghosts ripped his army apart and his marauder drops across the map killed his economy. Even then, losing battles and drones he shouldn't have, he was still in a good position to win until the very end of the series. Gumiho was able to get enough vikings in the first game to win an extremely close game, and then use the lack of experience and detection from Soulkey in game two to nuke everything into oblivion.

The crazy thing is that Gumiho played well. Extremely well. If this was Gumiho on an off day, then maybe you could say that Soulkey wasn't all that impressive, but the Towel Terran played up to the level you would except from a top tier Terran. The 0-2 loss puts the KeSPA Seven down to a disappointing 0-6 overall map score in the tournament, but don't fret. With a little more coaching and experience, Soulkey has it in him to surpass not only his KeSPA peers, but be right up there with the best Zergs in the world.


Ro32: Day Three Preview



by Fionn and Waxangel

(P)CreatorPrime vs (Z)MVP.DongRaeGu

Almost a month after suffering two of the worst defeats of his career, DongRaeGu finally returns. Who would have imagined that for a player who experienced defeat in several finals – the Blizzard Cup, and MLG Winter Championship come prominently to mind – two semi-final failures would actually be the most painful of his career? With the finals of the most recent GSTL and Code S tournaments taking place in his hometown of Busan, DongRaeGu was looking forward to the chance of winning his most glorious victories yet, clinching the championships in front of a throng of fans, friends, and family. However, within the span of a few days, he was unceremoniously dumped out in the semi-finals of both tournaments, and crushed under the weight of his own expectations.

Looking at his twitter feed since his defeats, DongRaeGu fans can waylay their fears that he has become a unshaven, drunk derelict who occasionally mumbles about burrowed infestors as he ambles around the beaches of Busan. He's been keeping up with his social media, making vague and philosophical tweets that remind you he's not just one of the best Starcraft II players in the world, but also kid in his early twenties dealing with adversity like everyone else. DRG's had plenty of time to reflect, and he should show up to this match humbled but focused, looking to make his way back to the top, one step at a time. (Just don't ask him about that period between July 17 – 23 when he fell off the grid).

It's interesting and almost even humorous coincidence that DongRaeGu's first opponent in his return is a player who has never had anything to lose. Creator's still at the phase where anything he gains is seen as a sign of his growing skill, while losses are patiently accepted as growing pains. At fifteen years old, he's already recognized as one of the absolute terrors on ladder and in team leagues, but has been unable to make an impact in individual competition. Still, his talent is so prodigious it's considered a matter of when, not if, he finally breaks out on the scene. Surely enough, he's making slow progress as time passes, taking on more responsibilities for Prime in the GSTL and even making his Code S debut last season.

In terms of actual time as Starcraft II pro-gamers, DongRaeGu and Creator are actually pretty similar. But you can't help but imagine that DongRaeGu will head into this match, look across at the other booth, shake his head, and think 'you've got a lot to learn.'

Styles

Creator plays a very standard style of Protoss that could either be called incredibly boring or incredibly solid, depending on your opinion of Protoss in general. Even when he makes a decision to all-in, you can imagine it being entirely technical. Something like 'I will all-in in 38.65% of games because that provides the optimal amount of of uncertainty for my opponent to ensure the highest long term win-rate.' At his best, DongRaeGu also seemed like a machine, with his fluid Zerg play resembling some kind of computer with a perfect response-tree for every changing scenario.

However, if DongRaeGu once looked like water, flowing around and eventually drowning out his opponent's attacks, his recent ZvP games have shown that it's very possible for creative opponents to put him in situations he doesn't know how to deal with. He barely overcame NaNiwa and his unorthodox gateway first strategies in the GSL quarters, while he fell like many a Zerg to MC's all-ins in the GSL semis. Fortunately for DongRaeGu, Creator hasn't shown that much creativity in the all-in department, saving his optimization talents to make builds that give Protoss the best possible foundation in macro games. That should make this series a battle between two of the best straight-up PvZ players in the game, one where we'll hand DongRaeGu a slight advantage because of his reputation.

Prediction: DongRaeGu 2 - 1 Creator


(P)Liquid`HerO vs. (Z)CJ_EffOrt

Enter Effort. For all of you who don't know of Effort, here is a short summary: he looks like Supernova's twin, is the only player to defeat Flash in a Brood War final after giving the Ultimate Weapon a 2-0 lead, and out of the KeSPA players, the one with the best chance to make it into Code S first. He briefly retired from playing Starcraft two years ago, but came back since the start of last season's Proleague, he has been consistently one of the best Zergs in Brood War and SC2 in his league.

Things won't be easy, though. For the fourth straight series, one of the KeSPA Seven will be pitted up against one of the stronger players the GOM squadron has to offer. Liquid's Hero, former Code S semifinalist, is considered to be one of the best PvZ players in the world and has defeated top Zerg after another to get where he is now.

Time for the good and bad news for the KeSPA followers out there. First, the good news is that Effort is absolutely crushing ZvZ and hasn't dropped a game in the hybrid Proleague this season. He is also known to be a player that can improve very quickly and is able to revel in the role of the underdog. He has been an underdog many times in his career, going up against many favored opponents, and Effort is a player who has been able to overcome those disadvantages.

The bad news? He is 0-3 in Proleague against Protoss and has had a bit of a slump overall since his blazing start to the season. Losing to players like Lizzy, Shy and Trap is not going to be the best boost of confidence to fans who want to see him take down the now veteran Hero. It's not fair to say that Effort doesn't have a chance at all just because his three comrades have gone down without a single win, but effort might very well be the next on the chopping block if he doesn't bring inspiring play tonight.

Prediction: Hero 2 - 0 Effort


(P)SlayerS_Puzzle vs. (P)CJ_herO[jOin]

Alright, so we can either breakdown a PvP between a veteran GSL player against possibly the biggest underdog of the team of underdogs with a middling PvP record, or we can get down to what everyone wants to know. With the merging of the Brood War and Starcraft 2 scenes, we now have the burden of having three, yeah, that's right, THREE PLAYERS having the name Hero.

It's time to decide which of these three has the right to be known from this day forth as the real Hero, while the other two must either get new names or be forever known as fakes.


Liquid`Hero: Out of the three Heroes, he is the one with the least amount of experience in Brood War, but by far the most accomplished when it comes to Starcraft 2. Out of the three Heroes now in Starcraft 2, he is the last one to make his official debut under his moniker. Team Eight's Hero debuted in 07, and CJ's Hero debuted in late 2009. In terms of seniority, Liquid's Hero is surprisingly the oldest of the trio, being two years older than his CJ counterpart and edging out Team Eight's Hero by fourteen days.

In terms of popularity, there is no question this is the most well known Hero. While T8's Hero had a good Brood War career, even having the honor of getting his ass kicked in the Batoo OSL semifinals by Jaedong, he still was never one of the most popular Brood War players in Korea.

CJ_herO[jOin]: His claim to being the true Hero? Well, he's the youngest of the three. In terms of accomplishments, T8's Hero blows him out of the water in Brood War, and Liquid's Hero records so far heavily outweigh his in Starcraft 2. In terms of popularity and being known, he is probably the least known of the trio. His biggest claim to fame so far is that he was the first player to beat Bisu in SC2, but as we now know, everyone beats Bisu in Starcraft II.

T8_by.hero: The first Hero of the bunch and the one with the most Brood War success, T8's Hero might have the strongest claim to being the real Hero. Thing is, he's only played two games officially in Starcraft 2 in Proleague and got beat down both times against Wooki and Last. Unfortunately for by.hero, even with his success in Brood War, if he walked into a room at
an MLG or a Dreamhack without a uniform on, no one would recognize him except for the Brood War faithful.


The Verdict: He might have been the last to take the name, but as he is by far the most known and popular Hero in Starcraft 2 and that's the game that will be played on from now on, we have to give the moniker of Hero to Liquid's own. He has already established himself as Starcraft 2's Hero across the world and is already one of the most popular players in the scene.

For CJ's Hero, the one with the worst claim to the Hero throne and the least known of the three, I will put him in the ranks of Yarnc in Brood War and MarineKing in Starcraft 2, by calling him Fake Hero, or Fero for short, from now on. Hopefully his fortune goes the way of Fake Boxer, more than it that of Fake Yellow. Good luck, Fero, enjoy your new name.

For Team Eight's Hero, you can call him the Original Hero or Oero for short, which will make me think of cookies every time I now watch any of his games.

If any party does not agree with their new names, GOM can set up a steel cage match with the winner getting the Hero name.

P.S: Fake Hero will make some warp prisms because that's what all KeSPA Protoss do in PvP, lose 0 - 2 and possibly kill any dreams we had of seeing a Hero vs. Fero match in WCS Korea.

Prediction: Puzzle 2 - 0 Fake Hero


(T)SAMSUNG_Reality vs (Z)SlayerS_YuGiOh

Naturally enough, the standard metric of rating Koreans pros has become position in the GSL. For fans who have watched plenty of GomTV, terms like 'borderline Code S,' or 'low Code A' are fairly easy to understand. It's no surprise that it has become the way people have been measuring the progress of KeSPA in their switch to Starcraft II, with 'Code S level' being the consensus line where a certain degree of parity between the two groups will finally be achieved.

So far, the KeSPA players in the WCS nationals have had the misfortune of going up against players who are at least Code S quality. The best KeSPA players have often been rated as 'high Code A,' so it was really no surprise that they went 0 – 3 against more highly rated opponents.

You can see where I'm going with this. Tonight, defending the honor of GSL players everywhere, is YuGiOh, more popularly known as the "King of Code A."

YuGiOh has the truly dubious honor of being the only player to qualify for all TWELVE seasons of Code A, a feat some would say necessitates the creation of a parallel "YuGiOh award" to match the "Nestea award" given to players who qualify for ten consecutive Code S tournaments. Though YuGiOh has shown the skill to qualify for Code S on no less than three occasions, each time he has been sent straight back down to Code A to languish for another season.

On the face of it, this suggests the KeSPA seven will have an excellent chance of breaking their losing streak and finally advancing a player to the winners bracket. After all, their opponent is a player whose most famous trait is not being a Code S player. On top of that, the KeSPA representative might be their strongest yet.

Though all of the prior players were seeded into the WCS tournament based on KeSPA recommendations, Reality actually had to prove himself in the qualifiers full of the skilled GSL players he will need to beat in the actual WCS tournament. Though his 4 – 4 record in Proleague suggests that maybe his play isn't very effective in that particular meta-game, he was immensely impressive against GomTV players in the preliminaries. Not only did he defeat beat Heart and Shine (two aforementioned 'high Code A players'), but he took out Symbol, a high Code S player who was once a candidate to be THE best Zerg in the world.

Just by those results, we know Reality is at least high Code A, and one might even start to suspect – *gasp* – Code S quality. In a few short months, KeSPA might actually have produced a pro who is favored against a GomTV veteran.

Not so fast there. The King would like a word.

For all his impressive SC2 achievements in recent days, Reality is a player who has never had much individual league success in his long Brood War career. One good run in the ABC Mart MSL saw him reach the Ro16, but other than that, he's been knocked out of the Survivor League (Code A lite) three times and the OSL Ro36 once.

On the other hand, King YuGiOh has only survived to become a symbol of mediocrity because he is also a symbol of consistency and survival. He's also a symbol of 'f*** your predictions,' defeating MKP to qualify for Code S last season, and somehow managing to qualify for the OGN Dual Tournament alongside the best KeSPA players in the world (of course, he dropped out of both tournaments in the first round). Just like players like MC or Mvp, he's someone who simply gets the job done, albeit on a far smaller scale.

Prediction: YuGiOh 2 – 0 Reality


Writers: Fionn and Waxangel
Graphics: HawaiianPig and shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
August 08 2012 01:01 GMT
#2
poor KeSPA players
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 08 2012 01:03 GMT
#3
Alien fighting!!!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
August 08 2012 01:03 GMT
#4
3 Heroes? I'm so glad Kespa pros are switching. :D
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
August 08 2012 01:06 GMT
#5
Poor yugioh, I hope he wins!
Long live the Boss Toss!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 01:09:52
August 08 2012 01:09 GMT
#6
I feel sad that BW killer retired, no chance of D.killer, T8.Killer and col.killer playing each other .
Glorious SEA doto
nekigosu
Profile Joined June 2011
17 Posts
August 08 2012 01:11 GMT
#7
any links to watch the replays?
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 08 2012 01:13 GMT
#8
go DRG!!
#TheOneTrueDong
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
August 08 2012 01:13 GMT
#9
Good stuff, just wish I could watch
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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Australia54784 Posts
August 08 2012 01:14 GMT
#10
creatorprime <3
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 08 2012 01:18 GMT
#11
3 Heros huh? I don't see too much of an issue, since they at least don't all capitalize their names the same way. This scene can always use more confusion.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
August 08 2012 01:21 GMT
#12
Plz effort win!!!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 08 2012 01:22 GMT
#13
Good writeup, thought of Monty Python at the mention of a timing bush haha (2nd PP). I'm glad others picked up on how well SoulKey performed this morning. Can't wait for DRG Creator OMG!
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 08 2012 01:30 GMT
#14
effort, hero. who to cheer for...
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Pssht
Profile Joined June 2011
United States42 Posts
August 08 2012 01:33 GMT
#15
Awesome writeup, can't wait!
Pssht
JujuXG
Profile Joined September 2011
United States373 Posts
August 08 2012 01:40 GMT
#16
2-0 fake hero lol
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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 08 2012 01:45 GMT
#17
Go Hero/Puzzle/Yuhigoh! For some reason I have always liked Yugioh.. maybe because of Jon..
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
August 08 2012 01:50 GMT
#18
On August 08 2012 10:30 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
effort, hero. who to cheer for...

The BW in me SCREAMS for Effort, but then the SCII + Liquid in me says, "Lol, do you actually think Effort can beat mother effin' Hero?"
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
August 08 2012 01:50 GMT
#19
Fake Hero - Iron, and Original Hero - Oreo, awesome! Hahaha
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
August 08 2012 01:51 GMT
#20
Having learned a little bit more about reality I am now almost totally convinced he will beat Yugioh. The thing is the story of the Kespa pro who couldn't quite make it is the story of ALL of our 2010 and most of 2011 champions. There's that drive at another shot that drives them on... maybe. Maybe he'll get roflstomped again, we'll find out tonight.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
August 08 2012 02:03 GMT
#21
is the only player to defeat Flash in a Brood War final


Jaedong beat Flash 3-1 in the 2009 NATE MSL.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 08 2012 02:06 GMT
#22
Polt beating MVP made me happy despite Soulkey losing to Gumiho. All in all a good night for my predictions.
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Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
August 08 2012 02:10 GMT
#23
On August 08 2012 10:51 TheDougler wrote:
Having learned a little bit more about reality I am now almost totally convinced he will beat Yugioh. The thing is the story of the Kespa pro who couldn't quite make it is the story of ALL of our 2010 and most of 2011 champions. There's that drive at another shot that drives them on... maybe. Maybe he'll get roflstomped again, we'll find out tonight.

I like the way you think! I totally agree with your assessment.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 08 2012 02:17 GMT
#24
Glad Polt beat MVP, I do hope DRG & HerO win, more so I hope DRG wins so he can return to form.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
August 08 2012 02:21 GMT
#25
On August 08 2012 10:09 Fusilero wrote:
I feel sad that BW killer retired, no chance of D.killer, T8.Killer and col.killer playing each other .


Then by TL's logic, we'd have Killer, Fake Killer (AKA "Filler") and Original Killer (AKA "Oiller")

kekeke
The baylife, it burns!
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 08 2012 02:24 GMT
#26
Nice preview, but the best part about this article is that it finally removed Jinros retirement post from the front page.
I know it's still there, but now it's not so big anymore and i don't have to get super fucking sad everytime i look at the front page.

That being said, GO HERO! <3
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
August 08 2012 02:30 GMT
#27
"Seed does what he [always] does"

You have "also" written there
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 08 2012 02:31 GMT
#28
On August 08 2012 11:17 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Glad Polt beat MVP, I do hope DRG & HerO win, more so I hope DRG wins so he can return to form.

but your tag is prime! whyy no cheer for creator? haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#29
ALIENS GO
Jaedong :3
Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
August 08 2012 02:40 GMT
#30
lolll... poor Bisu, "everyone beats Bisu in SC2"
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
August 08 2012 02:55 GMT
#31
Hahahaha Fero and Oreo Fionn and Waxangel i love you guys
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
Kyrao
Profile Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
August 08 2012 02:58 GMT
#32
On August 08 2012 11:40 Sitinte wrote:
lolll... poor Bisu, "everyone beats Bisu in SC2"


Haha... poor Bisu. I was really looking forward to seeing him play SC2, but something just hasn't clicked yet...
C0MMANDO
Profile Joined March 2012
71 Posts
August 08 2012 03:06 GMT
#33
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MVP
jiberish
Profile Joined April 2011
80 Posts
August 08 2012 03:41 GMT
#34
hahahaha fake hero
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 08 2012 03:46 GMT
#35
Hey hey JD won against god in nate and wcg 2010
can i get my estro logo back pls
1raxexpand
Profile Joined July 2012
United States165 Posts
August 08 2012 04:04 GMT
#36
Great write up, always looking for this. MVP really should take a break and get treatment. Wonder how good he would be if his wrists werent messed up
Mvp-forGG-MKP-Bogus-Ty-MMA-Polt-Taeja-Flash
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
August 08 2012 04:07 GMT
#37
"His biggest claim to fame so far is that he was the first player to beat Bisu in SC2, but as we now know, everyone beats Bisu in Starcraft II." haha funny, but sad, but true. I hope Bisu doesn't get discouraged and start to pick it up soon.
Definitely going to watch tonight's games though, skipped the others, but today's is going to be really interesting. ^^
Mmm, what to watch.
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
August 08 2012 04:22 GMT
#38
i'm so excited for effort beating hero. i hope lots of liquid fans rage hard over it
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 04:24:52
August 08 2012 04:22 GMT
#39
On August 08 2012 11:31 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 11:17 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Glad Polt beat MVP, I do hope DRG & HerO win, more so I hope DRG wins so he can return to form.

but your tag is prime! whyy no cheer for creator? haha


I like creators play, but I want DRG to return to form.



On August 08 2012 13:22 xmungam wrote:
i'm so excited for effort beating hero. i hope lots of liquid fans rage hard over it


You sound very bitter, because you know that hero's going to crush effort.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 04:41:55
August 08 2012 04:41 GMT
#40
On August 08 2012 13:22 xmungam wrote:
i'm so excited for effort beating hero. i hope lots of liquid fans rage hard over it

Why dude, why? Why are you so bitter? Expressing such negative feelings is not good at all.

Anyway no matter who wins, hopefully we'll get to watch some entertaining games.
o choro é livre
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
August 08 2012 04:48 GMT
#41
Some men etc. go effort and false hero. And true creator best beat false Dong.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
August 08 2012 05:09 GMT
#42
[image loading]

Reality 2:0 yugioh
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 08 2012 05:15 GMT
#43
On August 08 2012 13:22 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 11:31 opterown wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:17 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Glad Polt beat MVP, I do hope DRG & HerO win, more so I hope DRG wins so he can return to form.

but your tag is prime! whyy no cheer for creator? haha


I like creators play, but I want DRG to return to form.

creator can and has beaten in-form DRG before ;D he can return to form but still lose haha ;D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Spriki
Profile Joined April 2012
216 Posts
August 08 2012 05:30 GMT
#44
the bit about the three heroes and YuGiOh was pretty funny
Professional couch potato l Lover of Spectator Sports
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 05:32:44
August 08 2012 05:32 GMT
#45
On August 08 2012 14:09 Shana wrote:
[image loading]

Reality 2:0 yugioh


YUSSSSS

One of my favorite players after seeing him mindfuck jaedong.

He created a completely original build (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220358) in a very evolved game. No reason he can't pull out the genius in tonights games either.


On May 07 2011 18:50 TheOnly92 wrote:
This build is too evil, it should really be banned.

On May 07 2011 18:50 PoP wrote:
Wow. Just wow at this build. The execution was far from perfect but still, such a perfectly prepared game.

On May 07 2011 18:51 konadora wrote:
yeah, his mechanics was sloppy but this build... insane.

On May 07 2011 18:51 GTR wrote:
so i heard oov was lurking around the khan house recently.

On May 07 2011 18:52 Malinor wrote:
That was the most abusive strategie I have ever seen
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
August 08 2012 05:36 GMT
#46
Dearest Fionn,
Mvp won that marine/tank game just to spite you and everyone else that forgot he was dominating everyone with that for half a year.
I will always believe in the fallen king.
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
August 08 2012 05:40 GMT
#47
On August 08 2012 13:22 xmungam wrote:
i'm so excited for effort beating hero. i hope lots of liquid fans rage hard over it


I can't wait for my TRUE HerO (the wet one) to crush effort to make this guy sad
Brobe
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States75 Posts
August 08 2012 05:59 GMT
#48
On August 08 2012 14:32 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 14:09 Shana wrote:
[image loading]

Reality 2:0 yugioh


YUSSSSS

One of my favorite players after seeing him mindfuck jaedong.

He created a completely original build (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220358) in a very evolved game. No reason he can't pull out the genius in tonights games either.

Show nested quote +

On May 07 2011 18:50 TheOnly92 wrote:
This build is too evil, it should really be banned.

On May 07 2011 18:50 PoP wrote:
Wow. Just wow at this build. The execution was far from perfect but still, such a perfectly prepared game.

On May 07 2011 18:51 konadora wrote:
yeah, his mechanics was sloppy but this build... insane.

On May 07 2011 18:51 GTR wrote:
so i heard oov was lurking around the khan house recently.

On May 07 2011 18:52 Malinor wrote:
That was the most abusive strategie I have ever seen


And he just played like a total baller in his BW game last night. Jumping vultures over wall-ins into hidden two port wraiths...good stuff. (T)Reality fighting!
[Protoss: Jangbi/Movie] [Zerg: Calm] [Terran: FBH/Reality] In honor of KT Violet
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
August 08 2012 06:09 GMT
#49
sooo many heroes. and lol..."everyone beats bisu in sc2" T.T
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 08 2012 06:22 GMT
#50
Hero, Fero and Oreo; I like.
Proof.
Profile Joined August 2011
535 Posts
August 08 2012 06:23 GMT
#51
ugh I really wanted Soulkey to at least win one...
I felt like of all the players shown at Anaheim, he was the one to watch (besides Flash and his million medivacs, obviously).
He who has a why to live can bear almost any how
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
August 08 2012 06:31 GMT
#52
I will be cheering my heart out for Yugi and Effort XD
Plowman08
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3 Posts
August 08 2012 06:38 GMT
#53
Hilarious/informative write-up, thanks for being so humorous in your writing
"I love mankind, it's people I can't stand" - Charles M. Schultz
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
August 08 2012 06:57 GMT
#54
On August 08 2012 13:22 xmungam wrote:
i'm so excited for effort beating hero. i hope lots of liquid fans rage hard over it


Good luck with that, you're gonna need it .
[stranded]: http://www.indiedb.com/games/stranded
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
August 08 2012 07:08 GMT
#55
Is there any vods of these games?
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
August 08 2012 07:12 GMT
#56
On August 08 2012 10:30 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
effort, hero. who to cheer for...


Effort, obv
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 08 2012 07:14 GMT
#57
On August 08 2012 14:40 DMKraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 13:22 xmungam wrote:
i'm so excited for effort beating hero. i hope lots of liquid fans rage hard over it


I can't wait for my TRUE HerO (the wet one) to crush effort to make this guy sad


effort is gonna win, and then herO will change his name to zerO, and then there will be yet another fight for names with liquid zerO vs kespa's zerO. and then i can say " it takes effort to turn a hero to zero.'
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 08 2012 07:19 GMT
#58
Watch out for reality that dude was crazy in the prelim
IM & EG supporter
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 08 2012 07:51 GMT
#59
As much as Bisu loses in SC2, dropping his name alone even in that context still attracts the most attention in a thread.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 09:09:03
August 08 2012 08:12 GMT
#60
Day 3 of Elephant hunting season
Hero Effort
[image loading]
Reality vs Yugioh
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

more to come soon... (just got to work)

Day 2
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
August 08 2012 08:13 GMT
#61
Do people really think many KESPA players will seriously try for Code A at the next qualifier? Maybe for experience but after the WCS qualifiers and matches so far I don't see too many of them being serious contenders.
Nahsom
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria361 Posts
August 08 2012 08:27 GMT
#62
On August 08 2012 17:12 Frankon wrote:
Day 3 of Elephant hunting season
[image loading]
more to come soon... (just got to work)

Day 2
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Gold :D
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 08:49:46
August 08 2012 08:49 GMT
#63
agree with most but with one absolutly not
realitys statistic vs zergs is ... AMAZING he not only 2-0 shine he also 2-0 symbol in IMPORENT games (wcs quali) and said he even can X-0 ANY zerg in the world (his games already looked like)
a guy who can lose 50 scv in one game vs symbol and STILL win easy with a push ... god damn this guy will crush yugioh ...
for me reality is instant lose vs every p, close vs a terran but a 100% win vs zerg

DOTN FORGET he is the ONLY kesplay player who QUALIFIED and wasnt invited !!!
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 08 2012 08:51 GMT
#64
On August 08 2012 17:13 BathTubNZ wrote:
Do people really think many KESPA players will seriously try for Code A at the next qualifier? Maybe for experience but after the WCS qualifiers and matches so far I don't see too many of them being serious contenders.


well you saw the most vs code s so far ... gumiho allkilled slayers alive is an easy code s guy etc

wait when they play vs low code a or guys who want to go to code a, then guys like flash reality effort will make them a hard run for their money !
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
August 08 2012 09:35 GMT
#65
DRG is in serious slump me thinks .
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
August 08 2012 10:14 GMT
#66
Anyone else remember this song HuskY made about Eff0rt?

It's pretty funny =)

The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
August 08 2012 11:00 GMT
#67
Hahaha, that's an old Husky clip :D
Thanks for that.
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
August 08 2012 11:00 GMT
#68
I think the best thing to do is make all 3 change name and ban the name Hero, as much as I love Liquid Hero (actually my favorite player in sc2 atm) that seems to me to be the only course of action here. The 3 current hero's should instead be known as Fero, Oero and Cero.... lol just realized what Current Hero sounds like as Cero. Pretty cool name thou.

Otherwise I guess we are going to have to start calling the koreans by Hero the first, Hero the second and so on.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 08 2012 11:03 GMT
#69
No, the only thing to do is to organize a Tournament of Heroes. Whoever wins gets to keep the name Hero.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 08 2012 11:56 GMT
#70
fake Hero winning a map isnt bad at all.
Broodwar for life!
Tangel0
Profile Joined June 2012
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:32:15
August 08 2012 12:30 GMT
#71
Kespa Reality fighting
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:45:22
August 08 2012 12:44 GMT
#72
reality vs yugioh runs like i had expect in my post here
hope reality train his tvp then he going for code S soon ! damn he needs a FANCLUB !
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33335 Posts
August 08 2012 13:01 GMT
#73
no, my king
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
August 08 2012 14:09 GMT
#74
On August 08 2012 14:09 Shana wrote:
[image loading]

Reality 2:0 yugioh


Called it
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
eLyO
Profile Joined February 2012
1 Post
August 08 2012 15:11 GMT
#75
gfd
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
August 08 2012 15:24 GMT
#76
New idea: Team HERO

members:

HerO
herO
by.herO
I'm a noob
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
August 08 2012 16:34 GMT
#77
Whoa, OP missed the biggest BW hero of all. FirebatHero!
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
August 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#78
he's the only real hero
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
August 08 2012 18:14 GMT
#79
In the results section, the winner and loser are so hard to tell apart.
I think there need to be a standard font guideline on how to represent these to make it easier to see (like in the Liquidpedia, for example)
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 06:36:37
August 08 2012 18:54 GMT
#80
Nvm, I'm in the wrong here.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
August 08 2012 18:58 GMT
#81
And Hero[shield] won.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
August 08 2012 19:15 GMT
#82
lol fake herO ~.~
@Lokk_2/Go Woori 우리
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
August 08 2012 20:06 GMT
#83
Somewhat off topic: Foreigners are the ones complaining about Koreans changing their IDs. Brood War is the predecessor to SC2 and all the KeSPA players have earned their respect. It doesn't matter if someone came to SC2 first with a name that a BW pro already uses and currently has more accomplishments, the BW player with the same name certainly shouldn't change his while making the switch. I didn't watch BW but T8's Hero will be the real hero to me, even if Liquid`Hero is awesome.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 23:10:38
August 08 2012 22:56 GMT
#84
On August 09 2012 05:06 IcedBacon wrote:
Somewhat off topic: Foreigners are the ones complaining about Koreans changing their IDs. Brood War is the predecessor to SC2 and all the KeSPA players have earned their respect. It doesn't matter if someone came to SC2 first with a name that a BW pro already uses and currently has more accomplishments, the BW player with the same name certainly shouldn't change his while making the switch. I didn't watch BW but T8's Hero will be the real hero to me, even if Liquid`Hero is awesome.

oldest TLPD entry for (Z)by.hero for a match played on 2007-03-09 (aged 17):
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/759_by.hero_vs_FrOzen
-vs-
oldest TLPD entry for (P)HerO[Shield] (a.k.a. LiquidHero) for a match played on 2006-11-14 (aged 16):
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/19774_HerO_vs_Stay

I realize TLPD might not have all entries from those early years, but just going by this: Who was first in BW?


http://cafe.daum.net/ShieldClaN
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309945

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
August 09 2012 02:48 GMT
#85
On August 09 2012 03:54 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 11:03 Gorlin wrote:
is the only player to defeat Flash in a Brood War final


Jaedong beat Flash 3-1 in the 2009 NATE MSL.


Hey, its nice to know we can quote half a statement and call it wrong when we ignore half of it.

Show nested quote +
is the only player to defeat Flash in a Brood War final after giving the Ultimate Weapon a 2-0 lead


Well, Jaedong's 3-1 victory over flash isn't relevant at all now! Good reading comprehension there.


They edited the phrasing to change the original meaning to the one it means now (which is a pretty arbitrary stat anyway).
Scrutinizer
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
August 09 2012 17:44 GMT
#86
On August 08 2012 11:03 Gorlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
is the only player to defeat Flash in a Brood War final


Jaedong beat Flash 3-1 in the 2009 NATE MSL.


On August 08 2012 12:46 aRyuujin wrote:
Hey hey JD won against god in nate and wcg 2010


Not complete, Jaedong won 3 finals against Flash, and the one you all missed is the finals of Averatec Intel classic season1 of GomTV.
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