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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
May 30 2012 22:28 GMT
#81
I say at least 4 points for Liquid, but I'm not sure for the fifth...
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Exya
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada54 Posts
May 30 2012 22:35 GMT
#82
seriously doubt Seal can beat TaeJa.. Seal's ZvT is his best matchup but TaeJa's TvZ is his best too
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 30 2012 23:00 GMT
#83
Can't help but agree with the prediction. TL just doesn't have the depth needed to make a good run at the GSTL yet. Soon.




Soon.......
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 30 2012 23:05 GMT
#84
Taeja to the rescue! I hope TL can stick around longer in this GSTL.
hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
May 30 2012 23:08 GMT
#85
Come on ZeNEX you can do this! Fighting!
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
bLecK
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia625 Posts
May 31 2012 00:24 GMT
#86
C'mon TL you got this! Hopefully Taeja can force a couple kills!
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blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
May 31 2012 00:52 GMT
#87
Despite TL getting all-killed against Zenex, I think they still have a shot. NSHS is a pretty strong team though, and Seal is an absolute beast, but I was pretty impressed with play by TLO recently and if he can pick up a win as well as getting a strong performance from two of their three Koreans on their roster they just might be able to pull this out.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
May 31 2012 00:53 GMT
#88
On May 31 2012 02:23 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 02:05 Dodgin wrote:
On May 31 2012 01:58 Asha` wrote:
Player of the night was Life, no contest ¬__¬


You're not biased at all ^_^

Taeja and Hero need to come through for TL badly or they are just going to lose again as bad as it feels to say it.


Not in the slightest =)

After all he took out SlayerS Zerg ace, their Terran Ace, and had to get sniped by their Protoss Ace (after beating their reliable Protoss protege). Most kills, important opponents, impressive fashion. Unfortunately Puzzle got in his way and once Puzzle failed it was down to the scraps to see who could get luckiest on the day =p

Riiight JYP is scraps who got lucky lmfao ok funny joke
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DcTceremony
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom37 Posts
May 31 2012 01:29 GMT
#89
Liquid just don't have the supporting players to win. Any of NSH's players could cause an upset and take the win for NSH. Liquid are relying too much on a couple of players.
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LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
May 31 2012 01:42 GMT
#90
I believe in TL!

Taeja, Hero, and Zenio all pack a hefty punch, and TLO is definitely no slouch. Add Jinro (who will have a better chance to practice, unlike their match against Zenex) and Haypro, and you have solid support that can always cause an upset.
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-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
May 31 2012 02:07 GMT
#91
GOGO TL!
floatingbee
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore61 Posts
May 31 2012 02:10 GMT
#92
In TL, In Hero. I believe!
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 31 2012 02:25 GMT
#93
On May 31 2012 10:29 DcTceremony wrote:
Liquid just don't have the supporting players to win. Any of NSH's players could cause an upset and take the win for NSH. Liquid are relying too much on a couple of players.


Yeah i think in the GSTL anyone can take down anyone.
Relying solely on Taeja and Hero won't be good.
Play your best
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
May 31 2012 02:25 GMT
#94
TLO ALL KILL!
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 03:04:37
May 31 2012 02:52 GMT
#95
Ren's Team Strategy Recommendations

TLPD Stats for the TL 6 (Korean Database, 2012/1/1 - present)
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Taeja (T - code S)
vT 66.67%
vZ 81.58%
vP 58.33%

Hero (P - code S)
vT 76.92%
vZ 68.75%
vP 33.33%

Zenio (Z - code A)
vT 36.84%
vZ 62.50%
vP 50.00%

Jinro
vT 61.54%
vZ 15.38%
vP 50.00%

TLO
data set too small

Haypro
data set too small


Taeja looks well-rounded with some very good TvZ. Hero has that noted weakness vP, but to be fair, it was a small sample size and his losses were to Squirtle and Puzzle (and a 2-1 victory vs JYP)... NSHS can't send out that quality of PvPer. He also has very solid vT snipe potential. Zenio has a surprising weakness vT, but solid vZ. Jinro is surprisingly solid vT, but extremely weak vZ. TLO and Haypro are still new to the Korean competitive scene (this time around), but recent belief is that TLO is getting pretty strong.

TLPD Stats for NSHS's Top 7 (Korean Database, 2012/1/1 - present)
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Jjakji (T - code A)
vT 52.27%
vZ 61.11%
vP 50.00%

Seal (Z - code A)
vT 42.11%
vZ 100.00%
vP 40.00%

Freaky (Z - code A)
vT 57.14%
vZ 50.00%
vP 42.86%

San (P)
vT 50.00%
vZ 37.50%
vP 76.92%

Tassadar (P)
vT 50.00%
vZ 33.33%
vP 68.75%

Sculp (T)
vT 55.56%
vZ 50.00%
vP 25.00%

Sting (T)
vT 36.36%
vZ 35.29%
vP 52.17%


NSHS has no code S players this season and 3 code A players. Jjakji is okay in all matchups with some vZ snipe potential. Seal's ZvZ seems really solid and should be a concern, but is below average in the other two matchups. Freaky is a bit of an unknown code A with a slight preference for vT and a slight weakness to vP. San and Tassadar have almost mirror stats and while both look like high quality PvP snipers, the opponents in those matches were mostly low Code A and Code B. The coach even had more faith in Sting (TvP favored, but weak overall) instead of Tassadar as a PvP sniper against Puzzle last match. That only leaves Sculp left to talk about who has a glaring vP weakness, but is otherwise decent.

Liquid Game Plan
NSHS top two are strong versus Zerg. Unfortunately for Liquid, half their lineup is Zerg. This will probably be a week to play Jinro over Haypro to limit the Zerg presence to TLO and Zenio. Freaky is a good starting player (well-rounded) so expect to play vs Z first. I like a Zenio start again for TL with a good chance of picking up the ZvZ win. NSHS would likely want to play a terran vs Zenio and that may force out Jjakji very early (Sculp would be a decent play at that point as well). If NSHS plays Jjakji with 4 spots left on TL, I like an attempt by Jinro to take him out. Jinro has some pretty good TvT and an okay chance to take out Jjakji, but the real goal is to force a long TvT and give Taeja a good look at what he will be facing. If Jinro fails to win, I like sending TLO next for another potential snipe, despite being ZvT strength vs TvZ strength (you don't want to send TLO out 4th or 5th with Seal still on the bench, but he could be held for later if Seal goes down early). If Jjakji is still standing, it'd be time to send in Hero (leaving Taeja as an ace). Hopefully Jjakji will be taken out before Hero. If so, I prefer Hero as the final boss (though I don't have a good reason why). I don't see Seal as a huge threat to TL with Taeja and Hero sitting on very nice vZ records at the end of the TL lineup. PLEASE DON'T PLAY TAEJA AND HERO TOO EARLY. So the real question is whether or not TL can beat the NSHS protosses. TL isn't particularly strong vs protoss, but with Taeja and Hero as the final two bosses, I feel like they should be able to take out the code B (maybe low A) protoss threat NSHS throws at them.

Honestly, TL has two Code S and one high Code A/low S players and NSHS isn't close to that. At this point, ZENEX is ahead of NSHS in terms of player ability, they just don't have the name recognition yet. Picking off Hero or Taeja in one game isn't a huge upset. Picking off both of them if they're played as the final two bosses (in either order) would be a huge upset.

TLDR: Play Zenio first, follow with Jinro in almost all cases, TLO 3rd, and save Taeja and Hero for last two (if vs Jjakji, go Hero 4th, otherwise Taeja 4th). If anyone can get through those two in order, they deserve the win.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
May 31 2012 03:52 GMT
#96
Liquid totally has this. HerO Taeja TLO Jinro ZeniO Haypro Fighting!!!!!!
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
May 31 2012 03:57 GMT
#97
5-1 probably- I would love to see a longer series though!
Long live the Boss Toss!
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
May 31 2012 04:01 GMT
#98
that's not something you see everyday..MMA losing to a zerg
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
May 31 2012 05:06 GMT
#99
Taeja will do an all-kill i hope
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
May 31 2012 05:10 GMT
#100
Rough deal for TL. =(
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