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Tauscond
Profile Joined December 2011
United States181 Posts
May 20 2012 09:02 GMT
#81
On May 20 2012 17:43 WinningGuy wrote:
I dont see MVP as the champion, just a coinflipper.

If squirtle warps in at home in game 1 he wins, in game 3 he was lucky enough to go past squitles army in the middle of the map. I can still see Squirtle shaking his head in the booth when this happened.

MVP relies on that kind of luck, he hasnt won all 2012 because honestly, he hasnt deserved it.

He lacks true still but his biggest strength is knowing how to win a game with a flip of the coin.

Winning a championship doesnt meant I have to respect the way he plays or the way he wins.

People wonder why Champions frequently go out in the round of 32 in back to back GSL's.

It's because they didnt deserve to win.

MVP is dead to me.

I don't think you understand those games:D
These are your own opinion, I should have no comment. But then why "MVP is dead"? Why is that a problem you care about
Mvp, Mvp, Mvp, Mvp, MMA, MKP
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
May 20 2012 09:46 GMT
#82
Squirtle may have evolved into a Wartortle but MagiKarp evolved into a Gyarados.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Hilo
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia114 Posts
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#83
On May 20 2012 17:43 WinningGuy wrote:
I dont see MVP as the champion, just a coinflipper.

If squirtle warps in at home in game 1 he wins, in game 3 he was lucky enough to go past squitles army in the middle of the map. I can still see Squirtle shaking his head in the booth when this happened.

MVP relies on that kind of luck, he hasnt won all 2012 because honestly, he hasnt deserved it.

He lacks true still but his biggest strength is knowing how to win a game with a flip of the coin.

Winning a championship doesnt meant I have to respect the way he plays or the way he wins.

People wonder why Champions frequently go out in the round of 32 in back to back GSL's.

It's because they didnt deserve to win.

MVP is dead to me.


Rofl , someone is bronze and is really mad.
Winning like 14 games in GSL Code S all based on luck? Dear Sir, are you RETARDED?
Game 3 it was just strategy , game 1 , it was planned too...
Please.. don't talk about luck... 4 time GSL champion is alive more than ever.
naastyOne
Profile Joined April 2012
491 Posts
May 20 2012 10:33 GMT
#84
Cheese sucks, for a viever, that is it.

The one`s that like them, i will not even bother replying to your BS.
Gruntt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States175 Posts
May 20 2012 11:11 GMT
#85
On May 20 2012 06:40 Rik1maru wrote:
Kinda sad that MVP had to resort to a crappy cheese at a game 7 of possibly the 2nd or 3rd best GSL Final to win. Kinda screwed the whole experience/buildup for me. Squirtle could've had that last game... Oh well, grats to MVP on his cheese win.

Cheese is a part of this game and it keeps the game fresh and honest. If we had long build up games every single time, then starcraft would not be as great as it is.
Gruntt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States175 Posts
May 20 2012 11:14 GMT
#86
On May 20 2012 19:33 naastyOne wrote:
Cheese sucks, for a viever, that is it.

The one`s that like them, i will not even bother replying to your BS.

You're nuts... cheese throws the game into mass intensity way early on and it brings such immense pressure to the players who have prepared builds for days. Imagine practicing a map for an entire day vs one race... setting up your build, everything.

Then suddenly unexpected cheese happens. How stressed out do you think one can be?

Boxer was insanely entertaining to watch, yet he and many others cheesed like crazy.
Hawka12
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia26 Posts
May 20 2012 11:33 GMT
#87
On May 20 2012 17:43 WinningGuy wrote:
I dont see MVP as the champion, just a coinflipper.

If squirtle warps in at home in game 1 he wins, in game 3 he was lucky enough to go past squitles army in the middle of the map. I can still see Squirtle shaking his head in the booth when this happened.

MVP relies on that kind of luck, he hasnt won all 2012 because honestly, he hasnt deserved it.

He lacks true still but his biggest strength is knowing how to win a game with a flip of the coin.

Winning a championship doesnt meant I have to respect the way he plays or the way he wins.

People wonder why Champions frequently go out in the round of 32 in back to back GSL's.

It's because they didnt deserve to win.

MVP is dead to me.

mate your retarded if u think Mvp relies on luck, i hope you really are a bronze leaguer who doesnt know about the game otherwise your truly retarded. also both squirtle and mvp made lots of mistakes in the series for example game 5. but who doesnt make mistakes under so much pressure? mvp won because he planned his build very carefully in each map with both extreme macro AND cheese, now this is a good players. a player could only macro is same as a player could only cheese to me.
IMMVP MMA MKP
OneThreeOne
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway86 Posts
May 20 2012 12:02 GMT
#88
Great write up! Thanks for this, I should try and find some time to watch these games.
ericfalcrow
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 13:04:17
May 20 2012 13:03 GMT
#89
i must say! The final game really sums up the game well man! Mvp looks to be winning -> Squirtle looks to be winning -> all-in last ditch effort to a Mvp win! OMG! totally sums up the whole 7 set series!
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
May 20 2012 13:33 GMT
#90
mvp crushing all the best protoss in the world, wow !
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
May 20 2012 13:55 GMT
#91
Best art ever. :D
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
Earawen
Profile Joined February 2011
France51 Posts
May 20 2012 14:27 GMT
#92
Best sc2 final ever, no doubt ! This final deserves a better TL post. why are BW posts always so dramatic and epic and well written and sc2 posts are like... you know...
RatedPG.SC
Profile Joined December 2011
Philippines2 Posts
May 20 2012 14:52 GMT
#93
i think jjakji vs leenock is still better
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 14:59:48
May 20 2012 14:57 GMT
#94
pretty disappointed by the coinflip in the last game ...
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Hawka12
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia26 Posts
May 20 2012 15:30 GMT
#95
On May 20 2012 23:57 bluQ wrote:
pretty disappointed by the coinflip in the last game ...

last game is not a coinflip, proxy 2 rax is best chance immvp has against protoss on that map
IMMVP MMA MKP
Hawka12
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia26 Posts
May 20 2012 15:31 GMT
#96
On May 20 2012 23:27 Earawen wrote:
Best sc2 final ever, no doubt ! This final deserves a better TL post. why are BW posts always so dramatic and epic and well written and sc2 posts are like... you know...

sc2 always go one sided because terran stronger than protoss in early game while protoss stronger than terran after 15mins.
IMMVP MMA MKP
-shArk-
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany150 Posts
May 20 2012 15:50 GMT
#97
Awesome series, especially the metropolis game was amazing. I feel a bit bad about the last match, i think squirtle should won if he stayed in his base. To push out and loosing the one stalker and i think a zealot too lost him the game. His eco was much better, so he should be fine if he just played defensive and chrono out more stalkers.
sOs - Rain - PartinG
Hawka12
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia26 Posts
May 20 2012 16:20 GMT
#98
On May 21 2012 00:50 -shArk- wrote:
Awesome series, especially the metropolis game was amazing. I feel a bit bad about the last match, i think squirtle should won if he stayed in his base. To push out and loosing the one stalker and i think a zealot too lost him the game. His eco was much better, so he should be fine if he just played defensive and chrono out more stalkers.

yea i think nerve got him he thought he won the series and mvp had already given up after espically when he didnt see anymore marine
IMMVP MMA MKP
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 16:25:24
May 20 2012 16:22 GMT
#99
On May 20 2012 17:43 WinningGuy wrote:
I dont see MVP as the champion, just a coinflipper.

If squirtle warps in at home in game 1 he wins, in game 3 he was lucky enough to go past squitles army in the middle of the map. I can still see Squirtle shaking his head in the booth when this happened.

MVP relies on that kind of luck, he hasnt won all 2012 because honestly, he hasnt deserved it.

He lacks true still but his biggest strength is knowing how to win a game with a flip of the coin.

Winning a championship doesnt meant I have to respect the way he plays or the way he wins.

People wonder why Champions frequently go out in the round of 32 in back to back GSL's.

It's because they didnt deserve to win.

MVP is dead to me.



this is by far the most retarded comment i've ever read on TL.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
May 20 2012 17:06 GMT
#100
I really like the straight up games, topped off with the most nerve wracking 2rax I can remember ever seeing. Great series!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
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