EPT[Code S] Finals Recap - Page 6
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mrfcb
Norway6 Posts
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jtp118
United States137 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 20 2012 17:43 WinningGuy wrote: I dont see MVP as the champion, just a coinflipper. If squirtle warps in at home in game 1 he wins, in game 3 he was lucky enough to go past squitles army in the middle of the map. I can still see Squirtle shaking his head in the booth when this happened. MVP relies on that kind of luck, he hasnt won all 2012 because honestly, he hasnt deserved it. He lacks true still but his biggest strength is knowing how to win a game with a flip of the coin. Winning a championship doesnt meant I have to respect the way he plays or the way he wins. People wonder why Champions frequently go out in the round of 32 in back to back GSL's. It's because they didnt deserve to win. MVP is dead to me. You just made the most idiotic post in the history of this website. | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On May 20 2012 14:56 SeAK wrote: when was mass battle cruisers ever an ultimate comp vs protoss? if you watch how that game played out, MVP lost that game due to miscontrol, not unit composition. ghost/BC is pretty strong int he late game against protoss. stalkers aren't effective against BCs at all when you have massive numbers of them. the terran army in the super late game should be a lot larger since you dont need any scvs to mine (except the few for gas). not only that but if you watched that map, it is almost impossible for protoss to attack into the island expos since a PF + small missile turret ring will deny all entry onto it. do you really think someone would play into the super late game if they knew for sure it was going to be a loss? | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On May 20 2012 16:02 800800 wrote: Game 5 is awesome not because of what crazy strat they pull, but because of the unbelievable comeback at the moment of the series. And game 6 gave hope to most of us that was cheering for underdog. I bet people rooting for MVP were happy too. Then game 7... Game 7 was suppose to be the most heart pumping game. But it wasn't. I don't even understand how some people on this forum can possible think that was epic or enjoyable. MVP completely tricked squirtle in the last game... after the inital scv pull 2 rax was held off by squirtle, MVP started rallying more marines to a different location to setup a flank, which made a losing position (failed 2 rax all in) into a winning one by the hair of mule economy, it was an extremely smartly executed cheese. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
This has to be better than DRG v MMA | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
The best thing about all of this is that it continues to solidify (in my view) the claim that SC2 is a game of skill. Sure maybe you can't scout something and you lose to an all in. Sure maybe some newly devised strategy seems unfair and "impossible" to beat. Maybe people will call you someone that cheeses or has no skill and wins with luck, easy opponents, etc. But the best is above that and wins despite what non-believers call flaws in the game/tournament setup. They just keep winning. And it gets harder and harder for people to call good players bad on what they clearly don't understand. Congrats MVP, and good job. | ||
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills. | ||
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
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Ancient-Hunter
Korea (South)142 Posts
What a future this sport has. Oh, and MvP is far from lucky, you don't "luck" into 4 GSL championships. | ||
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NekoFlandre
United States497 Posts
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MrF
United States320 Posts
On May 21 2012 10:40 BaconofWar wrote: After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible. EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills. I dont think squirtles probe killed off anything in the main except that one mule, I am pretty sure that Mvp just pulled every last scv in his final effort and if not then maybe he left one scv to mine that the probe did get, but im fairly sure that it just started attackin the mule and tastosis made a big deal about it because there were no scvs there and so much was happening at once it was hard to keep track. The fact is i doubt Mvp would let a single probe kill off several scvs in a game where he only has like 12 units to keep track of. Ill have to review it again but i believe he pulled all his scvs the second time knowing that one mule can apparently power 2 barracks >< Edit; so what actually happened was mvp pulled every scv with the last push he then built 2 more and from what i could see on the minimap he sent those 2 out as well most likely right around the time the probe arrived, you can see in the vod that one scv joins up with the attack and the other is sent back home probobly to protect the mules from that probe. | ||
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Tauscond
United States181 Posts
On May 21 2012 10:40 BaconofWar wrote: After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible. EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills. Base trade? Don't forget Terran's buildings can fly. | ||
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
4 GSL, WCG, MLG, Blizzcon it's absolutely crazy how successful he's been and all the more crazy after his slump at the start of the year and wrist issues that he's been able to bounce back to take that 4th GSL title, I just hope he can put together back to back good seasons and get effective treatment for his wrists. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 21 2012 10:40 BaconofWar wrote: After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible. EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills. With no nexus and no money to tech to stargate and get a phoenix or void ray out, a base trade would never have worked. Terran buildings can fly. MVP could have just flown his orbital to Squirtle's base and parked it next to his bunker if he wanted. | ||
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Mazingdc5
1 Post
LONG LIVE THE MVP!!! | ||
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SkyHighEyes
United States11 Posts
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JoelE
United States112 Posts
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Kaxon
United States117 Posts
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