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mrfcb
Profile Joined April 2012
Norway6 Posts
May 20 2012 19:38 GMT
#101
amazing series! Game 5 must be the best sc2 match ever played. But.... what is up with these butthurt ppl complaining about mvp cheesing in game 7. The map is toss favored, there where 6 great games before the last and you're whining about ONE cheese? My advice to you: Don't forget to take your medication.
jtp118
Profile Joined November 2010
United States137 Posts
May 20 2012 20:03 GMT
#102
best SC2 series ever
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 20 2012 20:14 GMT
#103
On May 20 2012 17:43 WinningGuy wrote:
I dont see MVP as the champion, just a coinflipper.

If squirtle warps in at home in game 1 he wins, in game 3 he was lucky enough to go past squitles army in the middle of the map. I can still see Squirtle shaking his head in the booth when this happened.

MVP relies on that kind of luck, he hasnt won all 2012 because honestly, he hasnt deserved it.

He lacks true still but his biggest strength is knowing how to win a game with a flip of the coin.

Winning a championship doesnt meant I have to respect the way he plays or the way he wins.

People wonder why Champions frequently go out in the round of 32 in back to back GSL's.

It's because they didnt deserve to win.

MVP is dead to me.

You just made the most idiotic post in the history of this website.
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 22:13:08
May 20 2012 22:07 GMT
#104
On May 20 2012 14:56 SeAK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:52 Hypemeup wrote:
Yeah, I just rewatched game 5. After the final battle was over Legend highlighted that squirtle still had 7 HTs, one Stalker and one Archon lest on the island. That is 20 supply if I am not misstaken. And he still shat pretty hard on MVPs "Ultimate" comp.

Shame Squirtle botched game7 by being worried about the rax. :| Poor guy.


when was mass battle cruisers ever an ultimate comp vs protoss?


if you watch how that game played out, MVP lost that game due to miscontrol, not unit composition. ghost/BC is pretty strong int he late game against protoss.

stalkers aren't effective against BCs at all when you have massive numbers of them. the terran army in the super late game should be a lot larger since you dont need any scvs to mine (except the few for gas). not only that but if you watched that map, it is almost impossible for protoss to attack into the island expos since a PF + small missile turret ring will deny all entry onto it.

do you really think someone would play into the super late game if they knew for sure it was going to be a loss?
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 22:14:18
May 20 2012 22:08 GMT
#105
On May 20 2012 16:02 800800 wrote:
Game 5 is awesome not because of what crazy strat they pull, but because of the unbelievable comeback at the moment of the series. And game 6 gave hope to most of us that was cheering for underdog. I bet people rooting for MVP were happy too. Then game 7... Game 7 was suppose to be the most heart pumping game. But it wasn't. I don't even understand how some people on this forum can possible think that was epic or enjoyable.


MVP completely tricked squirtle in the last game...

after the inital scv pull 2 rax was held off by squirtle, MVP started rallying more marines to a different location to setup a flank, which made a losing position (failed 2 rax all in) into a winning one by the hair of mule economy, it was an extremely smartly executed cheese.

Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
May 20 2012 23:29 GMT
#106
Game 5 was the best game I've ever seen, and the series overall was one of the best I've seen too.




This has to be better than DRG v MMA
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
May 20 2012 23:43 GMT
#107
Just gonna repost what I posted in the LR here in light of some MVP hate being shown...

The best thing about all of this is that it continues to solidify (in my view) the claim that SC2 is a game of skill. Sure maybe you can't scout something and you lose to an all in. Sure maybe some newly devised strategy seems unfair and "impossible" to beat. Maybe people will call you someone that cheeses or has no skill and wins with luck, easy opponents, etc.

But the best is above that and wins despite what non-believers call flaws in the game/tournament setup. They just keep winning. And it gets harder and harder for people to call good players bad on what they clearly don't understand.

Congrats MVP, and good job.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
May 21 2012 00:01 GMT
#108
Hell, its about time we got these kinds of finals!
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
BaconofWar
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 01:42:24
May 21 2012 01:40 GMT
#109
After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible.

EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills.
Well, C9 is the best right now
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
May 21 2012 02:37 GMT
#110
Amazing! I really thought It was over when the 1st push was held during game 7, But yet it is Mvp
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
Ancient-Hunter
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)142 Posts
May 21 2012 03:08 GMT
#111
I was there, it was unbelievable, the energy in the crowd after that Archon toilet and all of game 7 was breathtaking.

What a future this sport has.


Oh, and MvP is far from lucky, you don't "luck" into 4 GSL championships.
Let's fly!
NekoFlandre
Profile Joined March 2011
United States497 Posts
May 21 2012 03:18 GMT
#112
Q.Q I slept cuz of stupid work!
Kitty Flandre....even more scary..
MrF
Profile Joined October 2011
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 04:34:00
May 21 2012 04:24 GMT
#113
On May 21 2012 10:40 BaconofWar wrote:
After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible.

EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills.


I dont think squirtles probe killed off anything in the main except that one mule, I am pretty sure that Mvp just pulled every last scv in his final effort and if not then maybe he left one scv to mine that the probe did get, but im fairly sure that it just started attackin the mule and tastosis made a big deal about it because there were no scvs there and so much was happening at once it was hard to keep track. The fact is i doubt Mvp would let a single probe kill off several scvs in a game where he only has like 12 units to keep track of. Ill have to review it again but i believe he pulled all his scvs the second time knowing that one mule can apparently power 2 barracks ><
Edit; so what actually happened was mvp pulled every scv with the last push he then built 2 more and from what i could see on the minimap he sent those 2 out as well most likely right around the time the probe arrived, you can see in the vod that one scv joins up with the attack and the other is sent back home probobly to protect the mules from that probe.
HunterXHunter is awesome
Tauscond
Profile Joined December 2011
United States181 Posts
May 21 2012 04:36 GMT
#114
On May 21 2012 10:40 BaconofWar wrote:
After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible.

EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills.

Base trade? Don't forget Terran's buildings can fly.
Mvp, Mvp, Mvp, Mvp, MMA, MKP
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
May 21 2012 05:04 GMT
#115
MVP's ability to plan out a series is seeming increasingly like his greatest strength, this could very easily have gone 4-0 and robbed us of some really tense games. Even the decision to cheese in the final game was driven by the map. It's excellent to see.

4 GSL, WCG, MLG, Blizzcon it's absolutely crazy how successful he's been and all the more crazy after his slump at the start of the year and wrist issues that he's been able to bounce back to take that 4th GSL title, I just hope he can put together back to back good seasons and get effective treatment for his wrists.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 05:06:23
May 21 2012 05:05 GMT
#116
On May 21 2012 10:40 BaconofWar wrote:
After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible.

EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills.

With no nexus and no money to tech to stargate and get a phoenix or void ray out, a base trade would never have worked. Terran buildings can fly. MVP could have just flown his orbital to Squirtle's base and parked it next to his bunker if he wanted.
Mazingdc5
Profile Joined February 2011
1 Post
May 21 2012 05:18 GMT
#117
I thought the game was going to be over 4-0 easy. I wanted to go to be around 6:30 with 4-0. ended up staying up til 7:30 am. lol. THE BEST GAME EVER IVE SEEN IN GSL!!!!

LONG LIVE THE MVP!!!
SkyHighEyes
Profile Joined February 2012
United States11 Posts
May 21 2012 05:39 GMT
#118
What was the song that played on the English stream while Mvp was showing off the trophy at the very very end? Great choice for him!
JoelE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States112 Posts
May 21 2012 06:06 GMT
#119
I watched this instead of writing a paper. Way worth it!
http://www.firecaster.com
Kaxon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States117 Posts
May 21 2012 06:55 GMT
#120
That was an awesome finals. I'm still partial to DRG vs MMA in the Blizzard Cup as my favorite series ever, but this one was basically just as amazing.
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