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On January 02 2012 16:33 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 16:29 IdrA wrote:On January 02 2012 13:43 DueSs wrote:On January 02 2012 11:04 IdrA wrote:
its team of the year, not most accomplished team of the year. mouz is a successful team with a lot of good players, but they dont really do anything otherwise. tl and eg are both out there interacting with the community and creating content and interest both for fans and to bring in new people to esports, mouz isnt, or they arent successful at it. tl and eg do a million times more for esports than mouz does. theres not a very clear winner in terms of whos won the most, but mouz clearly loses on the other stuff. (and eg wins but tl bias obv) I don't think people have their panties in a wad because Mouz didn't win. I think they do because Mouz wasn't mentioned. You said, "mouz is a successful team with a lot of good players"--isn't that AT LEAST good enough to be......... . ... .. .. mentioned? not really. winning, even a team league, is still largely individual. you practice with your team and receive some support from them, but honestly that comes into play more in individual leagues more than team leagues. team leagues are all online, you're not there together talking and giving each other advice (unless you're eg cuz we're the best) you're all sitting at home playing your own individual matches and winning or losing on your own. and even the practice, most people are more likely to practice with friends and regular practice partners, whether theyre on their team or not. its the extraneous stuff that really defines a team, particularly outside of korea. hey greg ur team sounds pretty sweet, ill join for 4k a month
egs a poor team we cant afford that 
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Great read, very entertainning.
Happy new year !
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interesting writing =) happy new years tl
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I nominate this song for most fitting to SC2 event in 2011. The event in question should be obvious. (DH winter)
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On January 02 2012 05:40 Phayt wrote:
A twitter rivalry does not compare to legit rivalry between players at major tournaments
I don't understand how anyone could think it does
Speaking of twitter that is kind of a classless comment from mousesports. It is entirely expected that forum posters will bicker about this kind of thing, but I don't see why they would want to participate in that silliness
Im not bickering, its more of a statement. I just wanted to show it... and add some words of my own. For fans the EG-TL Rivalry would be the top, but if it were a rivalry between players and owners (of the team) it would be EG-Mouz.
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Boxer wanted to recruit DRG? Can someone please link where this was revealed?
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On January 02 2012 16:34 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 16:33 MorroW wrote:On January 02 2012 16:29 IdrA wrote:On January 02 2012 13:43 DueSs wrote:On January 02 2012 11:04 IdrA wrote:
its team of the year, not most accomplished team of the year. mouz is a successful team with a lot of good players, but they dont really do anything otherwise. tl and eg are both out there interacting with the community and creating content and interest both for fans and to bring in new people to esports, mouz isnt, or they arent successful at it. tl and eg do a million times more for esports than mouz does. theres not a very clear winner in terms of whos won the most, but mouz clearly loses on the other stuff. (and eg wins but tl bias obv) I don't think people have their panties in a wad because Mouz didn't win. I think they do because Mouz wasn't mentioned. You said, "mouz is a successful team with a lot of good players"--isn't that AT LEAST good enough to be......... . ... .. .. mentioned? not really. winning, even a team league, is still largely individual. you practice with your team and receive some support from them, but honestly that comes into play more in individual leagues more than team leagues. team leagues are all online, you're not there together talking and giving each other advice (unless you're eg cuz we're the best) you're all sitting at home playing your own individual matches and winning or losing on your own. and even the practice, most people are more likely to practice with friends and regular practice partners, whether theyre on their team or not. its the extraneous stuff that really defines a team, particularly outside of korea. hey greg ur team sounds pretty sweet, ill join for 4k a month egs a poor team we cant afford that
at least not anymore, after HuK + IdrA + Puma + JYP took up the four 4k positions EG had... 
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Very Cool summary of 2011! Day[9] is the man, and Huk totally deserved best foreigner.
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On January 02 2012 18:07 Junichi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 16:34 IdrA wrote:On January 02 2012 16:33 MorroW wrote:On January 02 2012 16:29 IdrA wrote:On January 02 2012 13:43 DueSs wrote:On January 02 2012 11:04 IdrA wrote:
its team of the year, not most accomplished team of the year. mouz is a successful team with a lot of good players, but they dont really do anything otherwise. tl and eg are both out there interacting with the community and creating content and interest both for fans and to bring in new people to esports, mouz isnt, or they arent successful at it. tl and eg do a million times more for esports than mouz does. theres not a very clear winner in terms of whos won the most, but mouz clearly loses on the other stuff. (and eg wins but tl bias obv) I don't think people have their panties in a wad because Mouz didn't win. I think they do because Mouz wasn't mentioned. You said, "mouz is a successful team with a lot of good players"--isn't that AT LEAST good enough to be......... . ... .. .. mentioned? not really. winning, even a team league, is still largely individual. you practice with your team and receive some support from them, but honestly that comes into play more in individual leagues more than team leagues. team leagues are all online, you're not there together talking and giving each other advice (unless you're eg cuz we're the best) you're all sitting at home playing your own individual matches and winning or losing on your own. and even the practice, most people are more likely to practice with friends and regular practice partners, whether theyre on their team or not. its the extraneous stuff that really defines a team, particularly outside of korea. hey greg ur team sounds pretty sweet, ill join for 4k a month egs a poor team we cant afford that at least not anymore, after HuK + IdrA + Puma + JYP took up the four 4k positions EG had...
4k you say
on-topic: nice post, liked it ;P
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On January 02 2012 11:04 IdrA wrote:
its team of the year, not most accomplished team of the year. mouz is a successful team with a lot of good players, but they dont really do anything otherwise. tl and eg are both out there interacting with the community and creating content and interest both for fans and to bring in new people to esports, mouz isnt, or they arent successful at it. tl and eg do a million times more for esports than mouz does. theres not a very clear winner in terms of whos won the most, but mouz clearly loses on the other stuff. (and eg wins but tl bias obv)
Yeah? I have not seen anything comparable to tl.net by EG. EG is the more successful team though. So in this regard a tie is okay.
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I still can't get over that Idra video.
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SHOWMATCH
Teamliquid vs Evil Geniuses
Best of Eleven - All Kill Format
Casting: Tastosis or Day9 + Husky or Total Apollo / D Biscuit
Prizepool: Team of the Year Award + Honor + People who wanna donate maybe
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN
There can only be one
Even better, make it a best of 15, so that the whole teams can play to get a good reding of who is better
Edit: Nice writeup, gratz to all Awardwinners, you deserve it, and keep doing what you're doing 
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On January 02 2012 11:43 Day[9] wrote:
Such an incredible writeup! Read every word :D
On a personal note, thank you so much for the award!!!! I was feeling a little down on mahself, and this writeup came totally out of the blue and made me be like "C:"
TY TL! :D :D :D
Down on yourself!? How can someone who could command a thousand nerds to build a castle out of Spaghetti ever be down on himself!
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On January 02 2012 19:42 Harris1st wrote:SHOWMATCH
Teamliquid vs Evil Geniuses
Best of Eleven - All Kill Format
Casting: Tastosis or Day9 + Husky or Total Apollo / D Biscuit
Prizepool: Team of the Year Award + Honor + People who wanna donate maybe
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPENThere can only be one Edit: Nice writeup, gratz to all Awardwinners, you deserve it, and keep doing what you're doing
NO MENTION OF MOUZ?! 
Mouz can do a viewer count for them maybe
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i dont know why all you guys discuss the awards? i think this is a unique "eSports" thing to complain about everything everywhere everytime. never saw or read discussions and comments about other awards like oscar, nobel prize, other sports awards. ... the internet is a weird place
but to reflect the year i made my own awards:
Douche of the Year: Naniwa
Team hurting eSport the most: EG - because in other Sports the "throw money at people" behavior already caused problems and created disgusting leagues and results.
In the German Ultra Scene for Football we would say saying: "Statt Gier und Kommerz, Spieler mit Herz!"
transalted: Instead of greed and commerce, a player with heart.
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DAY9 YEW. congrats. Good read.
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EPT
