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2011 in Review - TL Awards - Page 23

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Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:02:35
January 02 2012 00:02 GMT
#441
I like article and graphics, very slick, Mousesports though could have gotten a mention between best foreign teams (as definitely best ''pure'' foreign team -.^
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 02 2012 00:08 GMT
#442
I don't understand what people are thinking when they post here. Jinro getting to RO4 in the GSL is still the best foreigner accomplishment to date and I see that alone as a good enough reason for TL to be considered team of the year.

Also classless comment by mouz. I don't know who runs that twitter but I don't like them.
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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
January 02 2012 00:08 GMT
#443
Great award roundup!
To the writers: you guys rock.
To thread lurkers: hi.
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:22:06
January 02 2012 00:12 GMT
#444
Cool article. Lots of good stuff in it. Some random thoughts though:

- I litterally went O.O when I saw map nominees. What that good with antiga? And hasnt Dual Sight got a lot of those "isnt it time this map is removed from tournies" comments? And I also agree personally that it isnt THAT good of a map. Daybreak is fine, and also a good winner. Nominees should be, in my humble opinion, Metalopolis, TDA, Daybreak. Metal made it incredibly far even though its such an early made map. TDA is just an overall super solid map. Can hardly remember any complaints about it at all, and it even made it into the ladder pool, which is a feat in itself. Metal for overall 2011 performance, TDA for being super solid and making it into the ladder pool, Daybreak for producing awesome (the best?) games.
- MCs ceremony is so awesome!
- Slightly disappointed with the choice of the word "entertaining" about Idra. He sure deserves to be on the list for something, but im not sure if its for his "entertainment value".
- Somewhat agree with the point made earlier about team EG/TL/Mouz. Dont need to repeat it.
- Very much disagreeing with MMA-DRG as best game. I know a lot of people probably will disagree with me, but I was very disappointed by MMA not making a single ghost. 2-3 ghosts could have decided the game much earlier, or even better, had MMA "went MVP" on DRG and made 10, 15 or even 20 ghosts, i dont think the game would have been close. I think people are somewhat blinded by it being the deciding game 7 of the best SC2 final (which it should probably get an award for!). To me, TOP - MVP is probably the winner of best game (imagine that game being game 7 of a GSL final.....omfg), possibly rivaled by Nestea - sC.
- And yep, really looking forward to see TITAN in action 2012!
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
January 02 2012 00:15 GMT
#445
Excellent article, great combined effort from a lot of writers, all good.
I got nothin'...
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
January 02 2012 00:17 GMT
#446
On January 02 2012 07:01 WesleyLok wrote:
Didn't Teamliquid go like 0-9 in IPL team arena and ended up with 1-10 or something? How the hell are they "tied for team of the year" ???

Is it because this is their site and the writers aren't allowed to write otherwise?

That happend at the end of the year. Look at their past achivements.
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gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
January 02 2012 00:22 GMT
#447
Nice write up!
On January 02 2012 08:28 GleaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
ahhh will we have BW edition?


Winner for the best lol quote!

What?
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WesleyLok
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada99 Posts
January 02 2012 00:36 GMT
#448
I think the most entertaining player award should have had more merit on actual in-game entertainment instead of just idra getting it for raging the most.

Marineking put on some insanely entertaining and fun games. Any game with marine king was entertaining.
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
January 02 2012 00:36 GMT
#449
Whaa? Thorzain isn't as big a surprise as Leenock winning MLG, then coming in 2nd at GSL. TSL3 isn't nearly as big an event as either of the other two, so biggest breakout is defined in part by the grandeur of the event as well.
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storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:56:32
January 02 2012 00:56 GMT
#450
On January 02 2012 09:36 bruteMax wrote:
Whaa? Thorzain isn't as big a surprise as Leenock winning MLG, then coming in 2nd at GSL. TSL3 isn't nearly as big an event as either of the other two, so biggest breakout is defined in part by the grandeur of the event as well.


Tzain was relatively unknown prior to tsl, leenock wasn't
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 06:46:06
January 02 2012 01:19 GMT
#451
Good write up general, lots of effort to be commended.. but

You guys DID kinda fuck Mouz for best international team.. given that theyve dominated EG and TL in all the teamleagues this year. If you want to measure a team then surely the teamleagues are the best place to go. Jesus, even Empire did better in this respect this year.

And as far as "1on1" stuff.. sure they might not have quite as many 1st places, but the sheer amount of 2nd places MaNa alone has is impressive. Its not like Mouz fails on LAN, the form they show in the teamleagues is consistant with their play in big events.

Also as a side note, just my opinion that i think hasnt been articulated regarding performance of a particular player as part of one team or another. In the case of Huk, because he's the easiest example, not a dig at any teams in particular: Even if he won an event while on Liquid early in the year, the fact that they lost that player to another team means his accomplishments for them are reduced. Great, you picked up a championship with a guy, that was great, but you know what? He left you. You LOST a star player, and that is a tally against that people seem to ignore in these cases.
In fact this type of debate is why teamleagues really should be more of an important factor in your decision making process, because the line is slightly blurry when its individual success; Its more apparantly theirs than the teams.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 01:51:50
January 02 2012 01:26 GMT
#452
On January 02 2012 08:43 tree.hugger wrote:

A page earlier I said that we looked at the team leagues, but didn't think that they were important enough to override the fact that Liquid and EG dominated the individual medals table for 12 months.


That's why when I wrote my response to the article I said quote end quote team leagues. Yes, it's very bush league and WGTour Clan League had less bullshit and more prominence. As for the Individual Leagues, er it's even hard for me to say any team really dominated. If we're talking about the top twelve to ten players to place in each tournament then sure. It's even hard for me to say IM and Slayer's at the same time if we're talking about who won, won.

That's why we have individual titles for best player. A team incorporates much more than just individual results and we have to look at the full picture opposed to just the pieces. ;/

If we're talking solely about exposure then TL will always be at the top of the list because of the content.

Looking over the other teams that have done well is a pretty big dis.
Regime
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia185 Posts
January 02 2012 01:32 GMT
#453
huk leaving TL was way bigger than naniwa... and a tie between EG and TL no way EG wins hands down bigger names more success
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
January 02 2012 01:34 GMT
#454
I totally agree with these decisions, great stuff.
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soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
January 02 2012 01:37 GMT
#455
To the people that think that mouz should be team of the year, ill prove why they are not:

TL: Blizzard EU, Dreamhack Winter, Dreamhack Summer, HSC3
EG: IPL1, MLG Orlando, MLG North America Invitational, IEM Guangzhou, Asus ROG, IEM Cologne, NASL Season 2
Mouz: TSL3, EGMC Season 5, EGMC Season 6

So as you can see, mouz achievements dont stack up to tl's achievements and certaintly not eg's achievements. Mouz is just not cut out for the lan tournaments, where all the money and fame is at. If they want to be best team of the year in 2012, they need to win lan events.

Evil Geniuses<3
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
January 02 2012 01:40 GMT
#456
On January 02 2012 10:32 Regime wrote:
huk leaving TL was way bigger than naniwa... and a tie between EG and TL no way EG wins hands down bigger names more success


I don't think huk leaving TL was bigger because with the naniwa controversy, it had several different aspects involved with it, there was the drama of mlg involved, naniwa switching teams, controversy between mlg and gomtv, how gomtv reacted, do we blame gomtv for having a shitty system? So many problems raised from just that one event.
Evil Geniuses<3
thehepp
Profile Joined December 2011
United States67 Posts
January 02 2012 01:46 GMT
#457
IdrA video made me rofl so much. Well written and excellent video about IdrA
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
January 02 2012 02:00 GMT
#458
Awesome writeup. Happy new year everyone. May 2012 bring Esports to ever higher levels.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
enigamI
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada385 Posts
January 02 2012 02:02 GMT
#459
Very fun to read write up, thanks a lot!
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 02 2012 02:04 GMT
#460
its team of the year, not most accomplished team of the year. mouz is a successful team with a lot of good players, but they dont really do anything otherwise. tl and eg are both out there interacting with the community and creating content and interest both for fans and to bring in new people to esports, mouz isnt, or they arent successful at it. tl and eg do a million times more for esports than mouz does. theres not a very clear winner in terms of whos won the most, but mouz clearly loses on the other stuff. (and eg wins but tl bias obv)
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