EPT2011 in Review - TL Awards - Page 23
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
Also classless comment by mouz. I don't know who runs that twitter but I don't like them. | ||
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Trozz
Canada3455 Posts
To the writers: you guys rock. To thread lurkers: hi. | ||
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Kreb
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- I litterally went O.O when I saw map nominees. What that good with antiga? And hasnt Dual Sight got a lot of those "isnt it time this map is removed from tournies" comments? And I also agree personally that it isnt THAT good of a map. Daybreak is fine, and also a good winner. Nominees should be, in my humble opinion, Metalopolis, TDA, Daybreak. Metal made it incredibly far even though its such an early made map. TDA is just an overall super solid map. Can hardly remember any complaints about it at all, and it even made it into the ladder pool, which is a feat in itself. Metal for overall 2011 performance, TDA for being super solid and making it into the ladder pool, Daybreak for producing awesome (the best?) games. - MCs ceremony is so awesome! - Slightly disappointed with the choice of the word "entertaining" about Idra. He sure deserves to be on the list for something, but im not sure if its for his "entertainment value". - Somewhat agree with the point made earlier about team EG/TL/Mouz. Dont need to repeat it. - Very much disagreeing with MMA-DRG as best game. I know a lot of people probably will disagree with me, but I was very disappointed by MMA not making a single ghost. 2-3 ghosts could have decided the game much earlier, or even better, had MMA "went MVP" on DRG and made 10, 15 or even 20 ghosts, i dont think the game would have been close. I think people are somewhat blinded by it being the deciding game 7 of the best SC2 final (which it should probably get an award for!). To me, TOP - MVP is probably the winner of best game (imagine that game being game 7 of a GSL final.....omfg), possibly rivaled by Nestea - sC. - And yep, really looking forward to see TITAN in action 2012! | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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Cush
United States646 Posts
On January 02 2012 07:01 WesleyLok wrote: Didn't Teamliquid go like 0-9 in IPL team arena and ended up with 1-10 or something? How the hell are they "tied for team of the year" ??? Is it because this is their site and the writers aren't allowed to write otherwise? That happend at the end of the year. Look at their past achivements. | ||
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
What? | ||
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WesleyLok
Canada99 Posts
Marineking put on some insanely entertaining and fun games. Any game with marine king was entertaining. | ||
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
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storm44
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On January 02 2012 09:36 bruteMax wrote: Whaa? Thorzain isn't as big a surprise as Leenock winning MLG, then coming in 2nd at GSL. TSL3 isn't nearly as big an event as either of the other two, so biggest breakout is defined in part by the grandeur of the event as well. Tzain was relatively unknown prior to tsl, leenock wasn't | ||
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BigLighthouse
United Kingdom424 Posts
You guys DID kinda fuck Mouz for best international team.. given that theyve dominated EG and TL in all the teamleagues this year. If you want to measure a team then surely the teamleagues are the best place to go. Jesus, even Empire did better in this respect this year. And as far as "1on1" stuff.. sure they might not have quite as many 1st places, but the sheer amount of 2nd places MaNa alone has is impressive. Its not like Mouz fails on LAN, the form they show in the teamleagues is consistant with their play in big events. Also as a side note, just my opinion that i think hasnt been articulated regarding performance of a particular player as part of one team or another. In the case of Huk, because he's the easiest example, not a dig at any teams in particular: Even if he won an event while on Liquid early in the year, the fact that they lost that player to another team means his accomplishments for them are reduced. Great, you picked up a championship with a guy, that was great, but you know what? He left you. You LOST a star player, and that is a tally against that people seem to ignore in these cases. In fact this type of debate is why teamleagues really should be more of an important factor in your decision making process, because the line is slightly blurry when its individual success; Its more apparantly theirs than the teams. | ||
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StarStruck
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On January 02 2012 08:43 tree.hugger wrote: A page earlier I said that we looked at the team leagues, but didn't think that they were important enough to override the fact that Liquid and EG dominated the individual medals table for 12 months. That's why when I wrote my response to the article I said quote end quote team leagues. Yes, it's very bush league and WGTour Clan League had less bullshit and more prominence. As for the Individual Leagues, er it's even hard for me to say any team really dominated. If we're talking about the top twelve to ten players to place in each tournament then sure. It's even hard for me to say IM and Slayer's at the same time if we're talking about who won, won. That's why we have individual titles for best player. A team incorporates much more than just individual results and we have to look at the full picture opposed to just the pieces. ;/ If we're talking solely about exposure then TL will always be at the top of the list because of the content. Looking over the other teams that have done well is a pretty big dis. | ||
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Regime
Australia185 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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soulist
United States932 Posts
TL: Blizzard EU, Dreamhack Winter, Dreamhack Summer, HSC3 EG: IPL1, MLG Orlando, MLG North America Invitational, IEM Guangzhou, Asus ROG, IEM Cologne, NASL Season 2 Mouz: TSL3, EGMC Season 5, EGMC Season 6 So as you can see, mouz achievements dont stack up to tl's achievements and certaintly not eg's achievements. Mouz is just not cut out for the lan tournaments, where all the money and fame is at. If they want to be best team of the year in 2012, they need to win lan events. | ||
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soulist
United States932 Posts
On January 02 2012 10:32 Regime wrote: huk leaving TL was way bigger than naniwa... and a tie between EG and TL no way EG wins hands down bigger names more success I don't think huk leaving TL was bigger because with the naniwa controversy, it had several different aspects involved with it, there was the drama of mlg involved, naniwa switching teams, controversy between mlg and gomtv, how gomtv reacted, do we blame gomtv for having a shitty system? So many problems raised from just that one event. | ||
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thehepp
United States67 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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enigamI
Canada385 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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