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2011 in Review - TL Awards - Page 18

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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
January 01 2012 18:01 GMT
#341
Seeing Snute on this list makes me fuzzy. Great writeup!
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
bundo
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada113 Posts
January 01 2012 18:01 GMT
#342
sweet, glad apocalypse was mentioned here, hes a amazing player that not many people know about
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
January 01 2012 18:08 GMT
#343
eSports hwaiting!
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 01 2012 18:08 GMT
#344
On January 02 2012 02:30 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 02:09 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
sVteen think about what you're saying please. TLPD values $100 tournaments as much as an MLG win and is not a good metric to use for a discussion as deep as this one. HuK who has won 3 majors in 2011 by himself does not make it into the TLPD top 5.

Correct me if im wrong but TLPD takes into account who they were playing against and not what tournament - so its a freaking good metric way to compare players. The price of the tournament doesn't matter. Its who you killed on your way to the top.

It's really not. These Playhem Dailies are nice, but no one tries as hard in them as they do for Dreamhack or anything other major tournament. The same goes for TLOpens, Zotac cups, etc. It's just an extra set of practice games that might win you a couple hundred dollars, even if you're facing versus someone good.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
January 01 2012 18:12 GMT
#345
I still haven't figured out what HerO was doing.
mouzChase
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany66 Posts
January 01 2012 18:12 GMT
#346
Awesome article but i wanna mention one point, at the Team of the Year International part i was sad that mouz wasnt mentioned. For me mouz is the team of the year. Outstanding players, nice finishes, mostly entertaining games, IPLTA runner-up (where TL failed and EG was scared). You shouldve at least mentioned their name
My opinion here does not reflect the views of my team / twitter @mouzChase / I <3 Scarlett
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 01 2012 18:12 GMT
#347
The think the biggest crime in this write-up is that Dual Sight was nominated for map of the year when the map has the worst possible PvZs ever. Worse than steppes of war.
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
January 01 2012 18:15 GMT
#348
ROFL TL saying they are as good as EG in 2011.

Check the results of every tournament, TL doesn't compare at all.
Got that.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 18:20:26
January 01 2012 18:18 GMT
#349
On January 02 2012 03:15 Chronald wrote:
ROFL TL saying they are as good as EG in 2011.

Check the results of every tournament, TL doesn't compare at all.
Why do so many people have the memory of goldfish?

I can understand if you disagree with the philosophy and think team events should carry more weight than individual awards, in which case Mouz has been the strongest team in foreign team events, but in terms of individual tournament accomplishments (not counting overall successes like EG's house) then EG and TL are neck and neck. Puma wasn't in EG when he won NASL1 and HuK wasn't in EG when he won HSC3 and DH.

This isn't the "Team of December 2011" award. The gut reaction for most people is probably "EG is better right now" and unfortunately, people only post their gut reactions. >.> When you think about it more with all of 2011 in context, it makes sense.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Spray
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States402 Posts
January 01 2012 18:18 GMT
#350
Nice rightup man! gj!
HuK Fighting~~!
shadowy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria305 Posts
January 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#351
Thank you. Yet another amazing read!
[Fear the leather Gracket!] // ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ // Liquid'Hero hwaiting!
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
January 01 2012 18:22 GMT
#352
Phenomenal write up TL! Looking forward to the beginning of the 2012 scene as soon as possible!
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 01 2012 18:23 GMT
#353
On January 02 2012 02:30 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 02:09 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
sVteen think about what you're saying please. TLPD values $100 tournaments as much as an MLG win and is not a good metric to use for a discussion as deep as this one. HuK who has won 3 majors in 2011 by himself does not make it into the TLPD top 5.

Correct me if im wrong but TLPD takes into account who they were playing against and not what tournament - so its a freaking good metric way to compare players. The price of the tournament doesn't matter. Its who you killed on your way to the top. And sadly for MLG the way to the top might be only 4 or so BO3...

PS. I noticed that TLPD isn't MLG friendly since most of the imported (read: exchange program) koreans don't participate in western cups so its hard to use their TLPD elo since there are differences between korean and western scene.

It's a well known flaw in TLPD that $100 cups inflate rankings. That makes TLPD a good estimate, but not accurate.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
January 01 2012 18:27 GMT
#354
kinda sad idra is the most entretaining player just cause hes a dick to everyone else.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
January 01 2012 18:35 GMT
#355
Someone explain to me what that thing about the stolen headset was all about
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 01 2012 18:40 GMT
#356
On January 02 2012 00:33 Thorzain wrote:
mouz doesn't have any korean mercenaries!!

They have Swedish mercenaries picked up right before major title wins ;o
MountainGoat
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States507 Posts
January 01 2012 18:41 GMT
#357
I think TL really erred in calling itself the number one foreign team. Even with a tie. Most of their players are slumping and there haven't been that many impressive finishes. It seems pretty biased for TL to name itself so.

User was temp banned for this post.
GhchD
Profile Joined July 2010
Hungary52 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 19:08:25
January 01 2012 18:47 GMT
#358
Sorry if somebody already wrote it but is it just me that am dissapointed TLO wasn't even a nominee for the most creative player of he year? I know he hasn't shown that many tournament victories as the other nominees. Still I cannot imagine what way of thinking led to this decision. TLO's creativity simply has to be taken under consideration, he's shown a LOT of entertaining games despite his losses!!!
bqm
Profile Joined October 2011
94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 19:03:55
January 01 2012 18:57 GMT
#359
TL is really biased site, i am just realising it now,.... agreed with naniwa and thorzain here,
Mouz is still the best foreign team, at least without the help of Koreans (Hero, puma), even with koreans I still put mouz on par with EG since they got JYP, they recently played crazily good in IPL tac, competing with some of the best Korean team, like MVP, IM, Slayers and win a lot.


I am actually sad that some of the TL mod/admin try to cover their ass with results of TEAM LIQUID, completely ignore Mouz in the team nominees.

WTF sc2 is 1v1 games so team results dont count?

Ok so why the fuck is Bisu is the best protoss in 2011 because he won individuals league??? or because he performed well in team league, why the fuck it not jangbi the only toss who won OSL. broodwar is a 1v1 team as well. Should fantasy be the best player of the year ??? because of OSL performance?
DongRaeGu would not be rated highly as of right now without his Team league performance.

Ban me or warn me if dislike my true comment..

And it funny there are 2 winners of 1 prize hahahaha EG and Liquid tied, wtf are they trying here, be nice to each other after the blow rivalry award?


User was banned for this post.
Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
January 01 2012 19:00 GMT
#360
Good write-up. Definitely an enjoying read, thanks!
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
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