EPTBlizzard Cup Preview - Part 1 - Page 12
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Silmu
Finland34 Posts
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
I don't care how good someone does in ladder, he could be top 1 in all ladders world wide for all I care, but if they don't consistently win tournaments it doesn't equal shit. Stephano is a good player I'll give him that, but people are blowing him way, way out of proportion. Best foreginer is overly exaggerated when we have the likes of Naniwa, HuK and IdrA, who have way more results under their belts and more consistency so far. Stephano has only 2 tournaments and recently came from DH in what he called one of his most embarrassing SC2 runs. Wake the hell up people, he is good, but not best in the world, not best zerg nor best foreigner. Who cares if Stephano beat Bomber in stupid Ladder, IdrA beat Bomber at MLG Orlando, in a god damn huge tournament where its all at (a tournament in which Stephano didn't even make it to championship sunday) , IdrA had the more impressive performance in one of his greatest macro games. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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Mr.xyz
France6 Posts
Stephano won IPL3 (beated MMA 2-0 in qualifs, Inori, lucky) and ESWC (beated MKP). Now he is in korea and beats every korean 'star' on ladder. How the fuck could it be "overly" exaggerated ? Idra and Huk are very good players, like him, that's all. But Idra doesn't have "way more results". Yeah he is the america and stuff, but stephano is in korea for 3 months, we'll see him against Idra after that  | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
You did great dude | ||
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Mr.xyz
France6 Posts
Stephano lost 2 on 4 against MC and MVP | ||
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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migosore
Poland5 Posts
It sure as hell doesn't feel like the hyped 'last tourmanent of the year that shows off all this year's champions'. | ||
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Sailincieri
Poland83 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:33 Destructicon wrote: I hope everyone who keeps praising the "ladder heroes" finally have a wake up call today, because ladder performance doesn't equal tournament performance. I don't care how good someone does in ladder, he could be top 1 in all ladders world wide for all I care, but if they don't consistently win tournaments it doesn't equal shit. Stephano is a good player I'll give him that, but people are blowing him way, way out of proportion. Best foreginer is overly exaggerated when we have the likes of Naniwa, HuK and IdrA, who have way more results under their belts and more consistency so far. Stephano has only 2 tournaments and recently came from DH in what he called one of his most embarrassing SC2 runs. Wake the hell up people, he is good, but not best in the world, not best zerg nor best foreigner. Who cares if Stephano beat Bomber in stupid Ladder, IdrA beat Bomber at MLG Orlando, in a god damn huge tournament where its all at (a tournament in which Stephano didn't even make it to championship sunday) , IdrA had the more impressive performance in one of his greatest macro games. Please, Idra have more restults then Stephano? Is more consisttent player? How blind are you? Idra had one good period of time, when he play realy well - from IEM Guangzhou to MLG Orlando. Now he play like a shit, losing to some low/mid TOP EU players... Naniwa had one (ONE!) realy good event, MLG... Only Huk doing great all the time, in GSL, MLG etc. | ||
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On December 12 2011 10:42 DreamScaR wrote: I have to say, I think MVP gets destroyed and only gets a win off of MC. To even think that Stephano would do better then MVP is false even in the most vivid of dreams. MVP is the greatest player in the world that only a select few can even hope to match (ie. MMA and NesTea) all others have to get extreamly lucky to find that extreamly small chink in his armor. Him losing even a single match in this group is less then likely to occur. The one getting destroyed in these matchups will in all likelyhood be Stephano seeing how all the Koreans in here are all far superior to him. | ||
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On December 12 2011 23:12 Sailincieri wrote: Please, Idra have more restults then Stephano? Is more consisttent player? How blind are you? Idra had one good period of time, when he play realy well - from IEM Guangzhou to MLG Orlando. Now he play like a shit, losing to some low/mid TOP EU players... Naniwa had one (ONE!) realy good event, MLG... Only Huk doing great all the time, in GSL, MLG etc. I think you mean idra had one bad period of time that being over the summer. An since then has rebounded amazingly. Players lose all the time an to variations of skill levels. NesTea losing to Naniwa twice dosnt mean that NesTea is trash cause he lost to a lesser player. Stephano is far from the best foreigner in the land seeing as how he hasn't even made it to a single GSL like Huk, Nani, IdrA, an Sjow to name a few. All of these players are better then him cause of that singular fact even though all are of far more skill an achievement then him not only over this year but lifetime as well. So to even begin to think that Stephano is better then any other foreigner is just outright false in my opinion based on the facts. He's never made a GSL an just isn't as good as many of the Top tier or even 5 foreigners we currently have today. | ||
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Sailincieri
Poland83 Posts
Format didnt help too, bo1 is just stupid idea... | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
On December 12 2011 23:24 Catatonic wrote: I think you mean idra had one bad period of time that being over the summer. An since then has rebounded amazingly. Players lose all the time an to variations of skill levels. NesTea losing to Naniwa twice dosnt mean that NesTea is trash cause he lost to a lesser player. Stephano is far from the best foreigner in the land seeing as how he hasn't even made it to a single GSL like Huk, Nani, IdrA, an Sjow to name a few. All of these players are better then him cause of that singular fact even though all are of far more skill an achievement then him not only over this year but lifetime as well. So to even begin to think that Stephano is better then any other foreigner is just outright false in my opinion based on the facts. He's never made a GSL an just isn't as good as many of the Top tier or even 5 foreigners we currently have today. Seriously? | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 12 2011 22:33 Destructicon wrote: I hope everyone who keeps praising the "ladder heroes" finally have a wake up call today, because ladder performance doesn't equal tournament performance. I don't care how good someone does in ladder, he could be top 1 in all ladders world wide for all I care, but if they don't consistently win tournaments it doesn't equal shit. Stephano is a good player I'll give him that, but people are blowing him way, way out of proportion. Best foreginer is overly exaggerated when we have the likes of Naniwa, HuK and IdrA, who have way more results under their belts and more consistency so far. Stephano has only 2 tournaments and recently came from DH in what he called one of his most embarrassing SC2 runs. Wake the hell up people, he is good, but not best in the world, not best zerg nor best foreigner. Who cares if Stephano beat Bomber in stupid Ladder, IdrA beat Bomber at MLG Orlando, in a god damn huge tournament where its all at (a tournament in which Stephano didn't even make it to championship sunday) , IdrA had the more impressive performance in one of his greatest macro games. Just poor hate buddy. Idra WCG 3-3 vs no names Stephano 2-2 vs the best players in the world. MVP even goes out and say how good a player Stephano is and says he can get into code S It was one tiny mistakes vs MC or els he would have gone true And you talking about results fact is Stephano won ESWC IPL 3 and IPL 4 UK qualifier while Idra won vs a horrible opposition at IEM china where he beat Elfi in the final. | ||
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Falconpauunch
Korea (South)59 Posts
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Mr.xyz
France6 Posts
On December 12 2011 23:24 Catatonic wrote: I think you mean idra had one bad period of time that being over the summer. An since then has rebounded amazingly. Players lose all the time an to variations of skill levels. NesTea losing to Naniwa twice dosnt mean that NesTea is trash cause he lost to a lesser player. Stephano is far from the best foreigner in the land seeing as how he hasn't even made it to a single GSL like Huk, Nani, IdrA, an Sjow to name a few. All of these players are better then him cause of that singular fact even though all are of far more skill an achievement then him not only over this year but lifetime as well. So to even begin to think that Stephano is better then any other foreigner is just outright false in my opinion based on the facts. He's never made a GSL an just isn't as good as many of the Top tier or even 5 foreigners we currently have today. Do you really think all of that 0_o ? Wow... For Huk ok, but Idra, naniwa and sjow in GSL ? they didn't perfom well at all, so it's easy to say that if a player go to gsl, he is one of the best. Stephano could go to GSL since he was invited to GSL too, ahem... He refused it, cause he doesn't want to stay too long in korea (the next gsl will be for 4 months). But he played a bo7 against MVPTAils (who is in code A) and won 4-1. I will not go ahead to prove something which in my opinion, is obvious.. He is NOT the best foreigner, but he is one of the best, obviously ! | ||
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Sailincieri
Poland83 Posts
On December 12 2011 23:24 Catatonic wrote: I think you mean idra had one bad period of time that being over the summer. An since then has rebounded amazingly. Players lose all the time an to variations of skill levels. NesTea losing to Naniwa twice dosnt mean that NesTea is trash cause he lost to a lesser player. Stephano is far from the best foreigner in the land seeing as how he hasn't even made it to a single GSL like Huk, Nani, IdrA, an Sjow to name a few. All of these players are better then him cause of that singular fact even though all are of far more skill an achievement then him not only over this year but lifetime as well. So to even begin to think that Stephano is better then any other foreigner is just outright false in my opinion based on the facts. He's never made a GSL an just isn't as good as many of the Top tier or even 5 foreigners we currently have today. I hope you are trolling...  Stephano never had a chance to play in Korea before, so your argument is just stupid Imho Stephano is not best foreigner, but right now is much better then Sjow (lol!), Nani, and Idra ez. Players lose all the time? Well Idra for sure... With some random players... Huk train in Korea for so long time that he must preform well, and he have results. For now Stephano > Idra, ez. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
Since Part 2 should be posted in a few hours lets hope some other staffer will predict the results. Preferably zere or tree.hugger. (due to their LB rank^^) | ||
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