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Ghostface_Killa
Profile Joined March 2011
United States168 Posts
November 15 2011 14:16 GMT
#221
On November 15 2011 22:47 nazR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 22:34 Aserrin wrote:
On November 15 2011 22:23 Velr wrote:
On November 15 2011 22:11 BrosephBrostar wrote:
On November 15 2011 21:59 FoxSpirit wrote:
On November 15 2011 21:32 BrosephBrostar wrote:
On November 15 2011 21:24 monkh wrote:
I'm right in thinking none of the SC2 talk shows talked about Stephano's practice schedule?

What is there to talk about? Either he's lying and he really practices more than 3 hours a day, or he's telling the truth and the game is a joke.

The article said 4 hours.
And a sports where you can excel if you train 4 hours a day and are prodigious is a joke?
Michael Phelps trains nearly 5 hours, 7 days a week. And we know what he achieved. Or maybe it's just that swimming is a joke?
Or maybe chess is a joke? Because many top players also put up around 4 hours each and every day. Every day.

Do yourself a favour and don't stick to that train of thought. It's pretty disadvantageous in life, ya know.

Best regards, Fox


So then are you going to argue that Stephano is just so good that he gets twice as much out of practice as other players? Or that the Korean teams are wrong and have been wasting their time all these years? If that's the case I hope someone shows them the light soon so they can stop wasting their youth pointlessly trying to get good.



You bound the legitimacy of a sport/sc2 to the amount of training/day required to excel.

Thats retarded logic.

Thats all.

You tell that to olympic weightlifters, who train over 10 hours a day at least 6 days a week. Even soccer players train 6-8 hours every session.


I don't think you're right, because there is a physical limit to the amount of training your body can receive, when there are none or almost none with SC2



Body and mind are connected. Old school notions claim one should exercise more, but new school, science-backed training methods stress getting significantly more rest so one can recuperate properly.
Arrested for what, baby? Being awesome?
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
November 15 2011 14:17 GMT
#222
Nais write, epic read. Haha that was cool stuff
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Flytothesky
Profile Joined April 2004
United States591 Posts
November 15 2011 14:30 GMT
#223
Wow, what an epic picture! lol.
I see MC and Puma lying dead, and is that QXC with turban on his head looking up to Stephano?
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
November 15 2011 14:34 GMT
#224
This is very impressive. Probably my favorite read since the "God of the Battlefield" article. Well done mate, this is glorious.
"I'm too drunk, to taste that chicken."
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
November 15 2011 14:39 GMT
#225
amasing article here. that's why we love the TL writing and illustrating staff, outstanding content
twitter@RickyMarou
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
November 15 2011 14:40 GMT
#226
nice post really like it

especially love the picture (eventhough i dont understand why stephano had to be a half naked woman lol)

huk and mc look best on it imo
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 15 2011 14:43 GMT
#227
Look to MMA, MVP, DRG, Nestea and 10 more Koreans. They play high level matches 3 days before Providence in Korea, fly to the US, need to play a SHITTON of games, and still people will put their chances above players who have been "chilling" in the US. It has to be said that the foreign contenders, also have all been traveling a ton themselves, or even come from Korea. IdrA is probably the only exception, and guess where he is going next year... Korea.

The other way around doesn't apply at all. All the foreigners going to Korea lose the first week. Every single player who enters code A the first time dies, horrible. All blame jetlag, needing to adapt, etc etc.

I am happy for Stephano, IdrA, HuK and others with recent Bo3 victories on US and EU ground. It is a change, but this article goes a bit too far, while it is still skeptical here and there.

And there are other points that I feel a bit untouched by this article, like the EG house. I don't really see the results, without doubt players like iNcontroL, Axslav, StrifeCro, Machine and DeMuslim have improved. But is it really due to the teamhouse? I see the EG teamhouse more like a place where they live together and have a great time. Which is awesome.


I don't know about this.
I had a good night of sleep.
Xarayezona
Profile Joined August 2011
United States72 Posts
November 15 2011 14:44 GMT
#228
Did anyone else come into this article thinking that it was referring to Non-Terrans? :'D

Either way, nice read, good article.
Poisonblack
Profile Joined May 2011
452 Posts
November 15 2011 14:47 GMT
#229
Koreans have been at the top for a few months, the top players over there reached the max of the learning curve way before any foreigners (excluding HuK, who is more korean than foreigner in sc2 terms anyway) and there's no question how much the Korean training regime has helped them establish their superiority.

However foreigners have had a few months to catch up since they play considerably less, but it was only a matter of time before they do, and this past October is only the start. Sooner or later we will have hundreds of players playing at the absolute top level and winning competitions will become pretty much a toss up between all of the competing players.

There is very little depth in SC2 especially compared to BW. There will never be any huge skill gap between the best players and the others anymore since there's just not enough variables to differentiate a player from another, and even if a player focuses hard on one particular aspect of the game for months it will still only be a little bit better than some others and just not worth investing that much into it, especially combined with the many random/luck elements in the game.

For those who like seeing foreigners win vs Koreans, It is only the beginning in my opinion.
ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
November 15 2011 14:51 GMT
#230
GSL is all that matters.
Ma Jae Yoon #1. The ONLY Maestro. Effort.
metbull
Profile Joined April 2011
United States404 Posts
November 15 2011 15:01 GMT
#231
I'm so glad that someone else thinks of Stephano as a girl. First time i saw him/her at Take TV's Home Cup I thought, "Wow a girl that can compete with the boys, awesome." The name can be misleading. If his name was "Brutus" I'm sure I would have never thought that he was a she.
BrosephBrostar
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States445 Posts
November 15 2011 15:04 GMT
#232
On November 15 2011 22:23 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 22:11 BrosephBrostar wrote:
On November 15 2011 21:59 FoxSpirit wrote:
On November 15 2011 21:32 BrosephBrostar wrote:
On November 15 2011 21:24 monkh wrote:
I'm right in thinking none of the SC2 talk shows talked about Stephano's practice schedule?

What is there to talk about? Either he's lying and he really practices more than 3 hours a day, or he's telling the truth and the game is a joke.

The article said 4 hours.
And a sports where you can excel if you train 4 hours a day and are prodigious is a joke?
Michael Phelps trains nearly 5 hours, 7 days a week. And we know what he achieved. Or maybe it's just that swimming is a joke?
Or maybe chess is a joke? Because many top players also put up around 4 hours each and every day. Every day.

Do yourself a favour and don't stick to that train of thought. It's pretty disadvantageous in life, ya know.

Best regards, Fox


So then are you going to argue that Stephano is just so good that he gets twice as much out of practice as other players? Or that the Korean teams are wrong and have been wasting their time all these years? If that's the case I hope someone shows them the light soon so they can stop wasting their youth pointlessly trying to get good.



You bound the legitimacy of a sport/sc2 to the amount of training/day required to excel.

Thats retarded logic.

Thats all.


It's perfectly reasonable logic to call a game a fraud when one player can beat someone who trains twice as much just by having good "mentality."
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
November 15 2011 15:06 GMT
#233
those are some strong arms on that lady
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sebvolc
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark20 Posts
November 15 2011 15:11 GMT
#234
The picture with Huk shaking hands with a Korean seems quite BM. In Korean you hold the hand you are not shaking with under the elbow of that you are shaking with. Having it in your pocket would be the SICKEST BM. :/
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 15 2011 15:11 GMT
#235
This was a great read! It must have taken a very long time for you to complete!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 15 2011 15:13 GMT
#236
That picture crit me really hard
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
GhostBusters
Profile Joined July 2010
United States198 Posts
November 15 2011 15:15 GMT
#237
Love this read! i Hope we keep showing good results!
Yut, bellybuttons.
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
November 15 2011 15:19 GMT
#238
Great article.
Punkdp1p3r
Profile Joined January 2011
United States30 Posts
November 15 2011 15:22 GMT
#239
I think IdrA looks like he belongs in that era. He works that outfit so nicely.
Anyways, this article is interesting because of the while debate over practice. It is strange, some people work themselves up from bronze to diamond over the course of thousands of games, others play one game a day, making every second count, making that one game count, and next thing you know, they have about a hundred games and is in masters league.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori."
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
November 15 2011 15:24 GMT
#240
Good article but I dont like that you use the same banner as day9 use in an old article !!
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