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[GSL] Code S Nov '11 - Power Rank Edition

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[GSL] Code S Nov '11 - Power Rank Edition

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November 14th, 2011 06:39 GMT
  • GSL on Liquipedia
  • Round of 16 Preview
  • GSL November Power Rank

RO16 Preview:
Two Days of the Best vs the Best


Probe1

If you asked me to predict the round of sixteen, I'd tell you that I bet with my heart while mumbling something about being in 5000th place of Liquibet. If you asked me again, I'd tell you the truth: I have no idea.

Look at the groups. My god. MMA, NesTea, Huk and Leenock. In a single group. It's a group you could imagine plotting to take over the world of SC2 Gaming and they're in direct competition for the round of eight. Groups B through D all show massive promise for entertainment, however Group A is the crowning jewel of this incredible lineup. MMA and Nestea facing off against each other on a macro Antiga with the gold bases missing? Yes, GOD YES! HuK facing Leenock on Crossfire? I do believe these match-ups are giving me the vapors! Top 3 control against the 16 year old wunder-Zerg. It's GSL at its finest. They're giving us semi-final worthy match ups before they even get to the quarter-finals. November 15th is worth canceling your plans, ignoring your phone and (if required) staying up all night to catch some incredible players match against each other.


New Maps
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Our new map, Calm Before the Storm, has already been played 15 times since it's inclusion in the GOM map pool at the start of November. At time of writing, it has been played on for 9 days straight. It was introduced back at the end of July by the good guys at SC2Prime, and I'll be honest: I really like this map. Every step away from using Blizzard created maps is a good step in my mind (so many bad memories of Kulas Ravine. Although now that I think about it... That one choke defending three bases, maybe it would have brought balance to Protoss). Extrapolating opinions from under 50 games is useless, however, and we'll just have to wait until it plays out to see how balanced of a map it is. But it certainly is a good looking map, and is providing some really fun games so far.

Bel'shir Beach (Winter Wonderland Edition) has followed the rest of the GSL November maps in losing its high yield expansions in return for an extra geyser and the removal of destructible rocks. Out of the 19 games played so far its been a bit of a nightmare for Zergs. What irony! The map that debuted as one of the most Zerg favored gifts the swarm had ever seen currently sits at 1-5 and 1-3 for ZvT and ZvP respectively. A part of me enjoys the reversal of fortune. However, all the other parts groan. Nestea dropped a game to sC, Curious and CrazymovING were both dismissed readily, and even July was sent away by Puzzle. There have only been two non mirror match wins for Zerg so far. They consisted of DRG doing what he does best against Supernova and CoCa showing Oz what it's like under the big lights all alone in the booth. As with all opinions based on small sample sizes, however, it's entirely wrong to assume the map is definitively favored one way or another.


Format Reminder

Reminder: The Ro16 uses the old OSL Dual Tournament/MBCGame Survivor League format, or in the other words, the exact same format as the Code S Ro32. Players who place 3rd and 4th in their group will fall to the Code A RO24. The Code A Round of 24 isn't as bad as it sounds. It's not Code S, but you only need to win a single series to get back into Code S. And even if you lose, you are guaranteed a slot in the Up and Downs.

Ah, whatever. Let's give it a shot anyway. Here's how I think the RO16 will play out: For your viewing pleasure: I present to you:

Probe1's Predictions


November 15th

Group A

1. (Z)IMNesTea
2. (T)SlayerS_MMA
3. (P)EG.HuK
4. (Z)FXOLeenock

Waait, did you just list predictions following the group order? Well, yes with the exception of reordering Nestea to the top, I did. Let's get things straight: Huk is marvelous. His control is only rivaled by a select few champions. Leenock cuts swathes of nerds down and believe it or not has some of the most tried and most successful ZvT in Korea. But they aren't MMA. They aren't Nestea. Chalk this up to bad luck by being placed in the hardest group of the tournament. They're going down to the Code A Ro24.

Truthfully, Nestea hasn't had a fun time recently. But it's the rallying cry of all Nestea fans that he puts more effort and training into the GSL over any other competition. Whether you agree or not, it must be conceded that he does have nearly incomparable results in the studio at Mok-Dong. He'll prove again that he's more than just one of the oldest pro-gamers out there, but one of the best. MMA, in a similar but younger package, will dazzle spectators and his opponents alike with a demonstration of Terran ingenuity that could only be compared to one from the Emperor of old.
*Disclaimer: I am a massive Nestea fanboy.

Group B
1. (T)IMHappy
2. (P)TSL_Killer
3. (T)TSL_aLive
4. (P)FXO_z

It's a big world Oz, and you're about to find out why there are no easy groups in the GSL. You've landed yourself in the good ol' boy group and Happy is going to wreck you for it like he did DRG. Killer will stay in Code S. It's what he does regardless of who stands in his way. He was the only Protoss remaining in the round of 16 last month and after tonight he'll have extended the streak. aLive was a dangerous mainstay of Code S that just refused to fall down to Code A. This month and this format should be what it takes to finally break the chains attach him to Code S. But that won't matter much to you Oz, I'm sorry. You've got a big heart. It's just not in the cards for you. IMHappy is a sick monster of TvT, and holds his own against the best even if his results are usually disappointing. As long as he keeps his nose clean and gives Protoss the truncheon, it will be smooth sailing for him against aLive.


November 16th

Group C
1. (T)SlayerS_GanZi
2. (P)oGs.MC
3. (P)SlayerS_Puzzle
4. (T)MVP_sC

Need I explain? GanZi is a boss. AOL finalist, Code A Winner; He has what it takes and he's been graced not to have placed in the same group as MVP. I've showed a lack of faith in other Code A up and comers but this one I'm ready to put my weight and words behind. One month after Code A he has already placed in the semi finals of Code S. One week from now he'll be back to the Round of Eight. MC is more difficult to predict. Will we see the President? The Bosstoss? Or dismay at some stale timing-attack and cringe as he backs down to Code A. With no Zergs in his group I feel comfortable saying one of the winningest PvT progamers, MC, will finish 2nd over his contemporary Puzzle and a dangerous sC.

sC, the Terran that has defeated MC twice recently and taken games off the twin gods of the Swarm (Nestea and Losira). He is a potent competitor and has been immortalized by his prior performances. Could he upset my predictions completely by defeating everyone in the group, including GanZi? An argument could be made for that..

And Puzzle!

Group C takes the coveted title of 'most infuriatingly difficult to predict.'

Group D
1. (T)IMMVP
2. Moe
3. Larry
4. Curly

Group C is the group of uncertainty but D is the polar opposite. MVP is going to LOL all over the group. Sorry. It's worth noting that his opponents' names are (T)FXOGuMiho, (Z)SlayerS_CoCa, and (T)NsHS_Jjakji. Compared to MVP, they're just inanimate objects in space. Since it's pretty obvious that MVP will win doing whatever he wants, I'm just going to list the slightly less likely ways MVP might take his games.

MVP vs Jjakji: MVP, inspired by his second game against MKP in WCG, takes to the sky and masses ravens, cattlebruisers and vikings.
MVP vs CoCa: Upon deciding that blue flame hellions ARE good, he decides to make only blue flame hellions. 800 seconds later, he defeats CoCa by hard countering roaches with 30 hellions and proceeds to tickle roast all things that swarm and creep in the night.
MVP vs GuMiho: MVP pulls out all the stops with a Gheed tested and approved worker rush.




It's worth mentioning I had this crazy theory. When MC went to the up and downs I had a tingly feeling in the psychic part of my brain. Out of no where I madly predicted he would drop out of the GSL, go on to win MLG and return right back to Code S with a fat paycheck for his efforts instead of the grueling labor of Code A. I was close. He only managed to get second at MLG. But there's something to be learned from my slightly off, completely nuts prediction.

MC is a champion. He had the ethic of a champion before. Whatever happened that made him slump was not present on November 1st when he savagely beat Ryung twice. He stands with as realistic a chance of making it to the Round of 8 as every other competitor. If you're an MC fan you don't believe his time ever stopped being at hand. But if you like MC and had doubts over the last month- stop doubting now. This Christmas the Boss Toss is BACK.
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GSL November Power Rank


Fionn & Fishuu




1. (T)MVP

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"But MVP lost the GSL finals! He lost to MMA! That means MMA is the bestest in the world!"

NO

NO, MMA FAN! NO!

Yes, MVP lost the GSL finals, and yes, the GSL is weighted above the other leagues heavily, but one title does not put you over MVP. It might put you over Nestea, but MVP is still, even after the loss, the best player in the entire world. After losing to MMA, he went onto win $50,000 against Nestea in the Blizzcon finals. Oh, and just because his wallet was large enough, he won the Korean Qualifier for the World Cyber Games and Arena of Legends, after coming back from 0-2 against Ganzi, for another $10,000.

MVP went through his November GSL group like it was another day on the ladder, and he is in prime position to make his third finals in a row. While MMA, Huk, Leenock and Nestea have to kill each other in the Group of Death, MVP should have the stamina to get out of his group and make the quarterfinals. Right now, the scariest player to face in the entire world is MVP, and he has the aura of someone who can't be beat when he is 100% and focused solely on his opposition.

"So does that mean MVP is a bonjwa?! YEAH! HE WON BLIZZCON, ARENA OF LEGENDS, AND WCG! BONJWA!!!"


NO

NO, MVP FAN! NO!

2. (T)MMA

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Okay, MMA fanboys and girls who would kill me in my sleep if I didn't put him at least second. After a traumatic first GSL finals, getting swept by Polt [*approximately 250 words until the first Polt reference] in four straight, MMA fought back in Anaheim, using the crowd support and extra practice to take down MVP. You can really notice the increase in maturity and overall evolution of MMA in these past few months from his first and second finals. The MMA that played Polt would have never used such risky strategies and went for the kill like he did. He played with the confidence of a champion and it paid off in the end, beating MVP 4-1 and capturing his first title. He outwitted MVP on the night and rightfully deserved his trophy.

For an encore performance, he entered this season's GSL and cleaned house, just like MVP, and made it through his group without much of a sweat. Now, with the first round of the way, he is going to have to step right into the fire, going up against Nestea in his first match of the Round of 16 group play. If you thought that was bad, he has to face one of the best ZvT players in Leenock and MLG Orlando champion Huk, who has 2-0'ed MMA before in the GSL and was the main reason why it took so long for MMA to get into Code S. If MMA wants to keep his second spot on the Power Rank and even look up to the heavens for first, he is going to have to impress in this group. Can he do it?

"Of course he can, idiot! HE BEAT MVP IN THE GSL FINALS! HE SHOULD BE #1! HE IS THE SON OF THE EMPEROR!"

Okay, that's enough from you, MMA fan. I'm locking my PM box and if you keep bugging me, I will pick him to win the entire tournament like I did with poor Supernova.

3. (Z)NesTea

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What can I really say about Nestea this month? Last tournament, like usual, he met MVP and got beat. This time he did get closer, getting to the fifth set before losing. He also met MVP at the Blizzcon Invitational in the final and lost (or threw...or fell asleep...or something), making their overall tally against each other something like MVP 9,456 and Nestea 3. Still, even with his continual GSL losses to MVP, you can't say that he still isn't one of the best players in the world. If he wasn't matched up against anyone other than MVP, he more than likely makes the finals for the past two tournaments.

Unlike the two above him, he had a somewhat rocky opening group, getting banshee cheesed in his first game against sC and losing, having to win two in a row against asd and his teammate Losira to get out of the group. Like mentioned above in MMA's section, Nestea will have to face the reigning champion in his first match of the second round. They have met in the past two GSL's, MMA winning in August and Nestea in October. Now, in the rubber match, these two will battle once more to see if MMA's drops can really take down Nestea's stellar macro play.

4. (T)GanZi

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Looking back at last month's Power Rank, putting Ganzi in the top ten and saying he had potential to go far was probably one of the only smart picks I made. I had DongRaeGu at third (oops); Ryung in fourth (bigger oops), Bomber in fifth (gigantic oops); Polt in sixth (I stand by this decision); Losira in seventh (meow oops), and finally, the worst of all, TOP, who I put in the ninth spot and now he is entirely out of the GSL. The four people who weren't mistakes, MVP, Nestea, MMA and MVP, are the top four for this month and the only ones from last month who remain in the Power Rank. Obviously this just shows how volatile the scene is at the moment and not that I'm cursing them somehow by putting them in the Power Rank.

Ganzi made it all the way to the semifinals in October, making a statement that he is clearly one of the best terrans in the world and shouldn't be forgotten like his teammate Ryung. He did lose to MVP in the semifinals with a score of 1-3, but he showed great promise in the games and made MVP play to his very best. The two would then meet again in the Arena of Legends final, Ganzi getting a two game lead before losing three straight to the best player in the world not named Clide. He continued his promising play this tournament, getting out of one of the harder groups 2-0, beating Ensnare in a romp and Polt in possibly the best game of the tournament so far. Hopefully for Ganzi, this fourth spot won't be a curse like his teammate Ryung last month.

5. (T)Happy

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MiniVP continues in his master's footsteps, rolling through different leagues with high level mech play and making himself known as one of the strongest mechanical players in the world. In October he got to the semifinals, losing to eventual champion MMA, and delivering a great set of games that he could have won with a bit more experience and luck. In his third Code S, Happy has shown even more excellent mech play, beating DongRaeGu with one of the most imaginative builds that I have seen recently in the GSL and beating down Gumiho in a one-sided TvT.

Looking forward, he is put into a tough group, having to take on the two strongest protoss against terran at the moment, Killer and Oz, and the Ladder Master himself, the man with the voice of a tiny, tiny bunny rabbit, Alive. With Happy's current play, he should have a good chance at advancing. He won't be able to use his top notch mech against the protoss, but he has won four straight against Aiur and is getting better every game he plays. Before long, we might have to stop calling him MiniVP and give him a real nickname.

The Mecha Terran? Tank Dude? Game Shark Terran? Yeah, I can't think of a good one. Your job for this week as a community is give Happy a new nickname. I am counting on you to give him a good one.

6. (Z)CoCa

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If you have noticed a pattern so far in the Power Rank, you are correct. We have had three Incredible Miracle players and two Slayers so far, and we're about to add another Slayers card to the deck. Coca has come on strong the past few months, getting to two quarterfinals in recent GSL's and getting to a final at MLG Raleigh. Surprisingly, his overall record is still under .500 in Korea, but he has an undefeated streak that hasn't been snapped yet in the GSL with his dynamic ZvP. With all five protoss getting out of the first round, Coca might have a field day if he can get matched up with one in the quarterfinal or beyond if he gets that far.

Coca's first round group in November might have not had MMA, Nestea, or MVP, but it could definitely be considered the Group of Death for the first round, housing the always reliable Nada, surging protoss Oz, and the Korean Weekly King, Coca's own teammate, Taeja. Coca took down Oz, like he does with all protoss in the GSL, and then played Taeja in an exciting back-and-forth duel, finally putting down his teammate after a long struggle.

If Coca can get some luck in the draw, not get a Happy or Nestea in the quarterfinal like he has the past two and maybe get stuck with a toss, the top zerg from Slayers might have a chance to get farther than he has ever been in the GSL. And with that, we can wave goodbye to the Incredible and Slayers portion of this Power Rank and go forth towards a race that we haven't seen in a while.

7.(P)Killer

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Terrans of the world: Hey Killer, you're washed-up, are degrading in skill, and will never get to a semifinal in your career. You can talk big all you want in group ceremonies, but in the end, you will always end up losing to us and look like a fool. Why don't you just give up and become a hair model?

This would be the part where Killer looks at all the terrans in the world, shakes his head, puts on his sunglasses (to protect his eyes from getting his victims' blood on them) and then rams his fists down every single terran throat without mercy. That is the Code of Killer. No terran from this day forth will ever look down on him again. If you mess with Killer, you will die. He has evolved. He has ascended to new heights of manliness. I heard a rumor on the Korean boards that twelve blind men regained their vision during Killer's dismantling of Jjakji and Virus. No one knows how it happened, but SangHo swears he was not involved.

Killer in October did decently, upsetting Polt in two straight games to get into the round of sixteen as the lone protoss, but was quickly bounced by the perfect ZvP record holder Coca. Killer looked good, but I would still say his wins in that season were more from his opponent playing badly than him playing amazingly. This season is a completely different story; not only is Killer playing some of the crispest and cleanest PvT I've ever seen in the GSL, but he absolutely made two Code S terrans look silly by how Killer played them in their matches.

It's too early to say if Killer has a legit shot of getting to a final, noting that Virus and Jjakji aren't the cream of the crop when it comes to TvP, but it's a good start to a tournament for the protoss from TSL.

8. (P)HuK

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Two protoss in the top ten? This is surely new after last month's complete lack of anything zealot or templar. Huk has been picking up his play lately, winning MLG Orlando in a final against MC, and 2-0'ing his Code S group that included Clide and Puzzle. If I were to compare Killer and Huk's first round performances, I would say I was more impressed by the former, but that doesn't mean Huk didn't look dominant in his own right. His play wasn't the cleanest, but I think you can give the guy a pass for traveling around the world every single day of the year, giving gifts to small children and winning Starcraft tournaments. He is like Santa Claus but doesn't take a day off.

If Huk can keep his tournament schedule in check and concentrate on the GSL, he has a shot of getting to the quarterfinals and beyond. On paper, his Ro16 group stage is one of the hardest you could ever imagine: the defending champion MMA, the three-time GSL champion Nestea, and quite possibly the best ZvT player in the world currently with the young Leenock. But when you really look at it, Leenock may be superb at ZvT, but is lackluster against protoss; MMA can beat up all the zergs he want and do very well against terran, but he is historically weak against protoss and that includes a 2-0 loss to Huk in the Up-and-Downs months ago. Nestea would be the toughest opponent for him if they faced off, but Huk has shown he isn't scared of Nestea.

All in all, it's been a good month for Huk. He had a down month last season, but he is looking like the player who got to the quarterfinals in August and could have gotten farther if he didn't have to face MVP. The sky is the limit for the Canadian...American...Korean...Irish...Slovenian protoss.

9. (P)Oz

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Protoss. Protoss everywhere. They are spreading!

The last two spots were very hard to give out. With Supernova forsaking me and going 0-2 and dropping to the lowest rung of Code A, he slipped off the ranking even with his impressive results in WCG and Arena of Legends. Throw in all the rest of the top ten players from last month who didn't have a very good November tournament, it was time to look deep for some new heroes. Surprisingly, all of them were either from FXO or had been on FXO at one point or another.

For the ninth spot, I give it to Oz. There really is something about this guy I can't put my finger on. He went from, 'Oh hey, the foreign FXO team got some random Korean to play for them,' to people saying, 'Holy crap, that Oz guy is really good!' Oz did well in both WCG and the Arena of Legends, getting to the quarterfinals of both, and he advanced from, in my opinion, the toughest group of the first round, beating both Nada and Taeja to show off how good his PvT

This spot, a lot like Ganzi last month, is part based on results and part based on potential. Last month I thought Ganzi had the potential to get to the finals and maybe even win the title, and I get the same vibes from Oz. He truly is a magician. You can count him out for one second, believing he isn't all that good, and then he'll turn you around and show you a brilliant PvT that will make you a believer.

10. (Z)Leenock

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So the final spot comes down to three people. Leenock, Gumiho, and sC. Leenock has gotten to the round of sixteen for two straight tournaments; Gumiho had two gigantic upsets, taking down a slumping Bomber and DongRaeGu; and sC 2-0'ed his group, cheesing out Nestea and beating Losira.

As you can see by the picture, I went with Leenock. Unlike the other two who are both just getting back into Code S, Leenock has now shown us in back-to-back seasons that he can be a consistent player in Code S. His ZvT might rival DongRaeGu for best in the world, and he is so young that he still has years upon years of playing before even reaching his prime. sC and Gumiho also played very well, and they deserve recognition as well in this article, but if they got over Leenock in the Power Rank, we would never get that adorable fanart of Leenock with an octopus on his shoulder.

All three mentioned are all equally deserving to be in the tenth spot, but Leenock has the octopus so he wins.

Ten Outside The Ten


Supernova: ....I'm sorry

MC: Yes, he got out of his group, but Ryung was beyond awful. He waited ten minutes to do an all-in. How does that even happen?

Polt: ...You'll be back. You'll be back.

Bomber: *Looks to the right*

*Looks to the left*

*Looks to the right*

*shrug*


DongRaeGu: You should thank Bomber for taking everyone's eyes off your quick exit.

MarineKing: Yes, he did get to the WCG finals and take a game off MVP, but he also hasn't made it to the round of sixteen in a GSL tournament (no, Code A does not count) since the Super Tournament in July.

Ryung: Who?

Losira: Playing Nestea is hard in ZvZ. Sorry, Losira.

Sage: Artosis is already planning on how to miss his daughter's birth if somehow Sage and Nestea play each other on that day.

Alive: Everyone should be cheering on Alive to make the finals just to see GOM try to make him trash talk his opponent.

The Honorary LegalMind "What The Hell Happened?" Award


This award will go out monthly to the player who falls the highest from grace the fastest. This month's inagular award is a no-brainer. It has to go to TOP.This is TOP's last three GSL tournaments in a nutshell:

  • Beats Polt and makes his first ever GSL final
  • For some reason, Fionn decides to pick TOP to beat MVP
  • MVP crushes TOP
  • Coca and Supernova crush TOP
  • For some reason, Fionn decides to put TOP into the October Power Rank
  • TOP doesn't win a single game in his Up-and-Down group
  • Gets knocked out of the WCG
  • Gets knocked out in the first round of Code A and out entirely of the GSL
  • Fionn gives TOP the LegalMind Award


And somewhere, in her room filled with pictures of TOP's face pasted on naked guys bodies, the TOP Fangirl is planning on flying to America and suing me for ruining her idol's career.

All I have to say to that is: Hey, Inca is back in Code A! Everyone celebrate!

Until next time, Team Liquid.










Art by Fishuu



Writers: Fionn and Probe1.
Graphics and Art: Fishuu, Meko and Pony Tales (disciple and Lip the Pencilboy).
Editor: WaxAngel
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AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
November 14 2011 06:44 GMT
#2
I have to agree with all those harsh points...
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NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
November 14 2011 06:46 GMT
#3
Yes, MMA lost the GSL finals, and yes, the GSL is weighted above the other leagues heavily, but one title does not put you over MVP.


Should be Yes, MVP lost the GSL finals, and yes, the GSL is weighted above the other leagues heavily, but one title does not put you over MVP. I think.

Great write-up!

MMA and MC fighting!!!
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ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
November 14 2011 06:47 GMT
#4
Great drawings.
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
November 14 2011 06:50 GMT
#5
Nice write-up!

Yeah, TOP really has fallen a long way...
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 14 2011 06:50 GMT
#6
Good power rank. Loving the art!

oh, and just to throw it out there, Group D predictions(you heard it here first):
Gumiho
Coca
MVP
Jjakji
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
November 14 2011 06:57 GMT
#7
Fishuu is sexy.
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Plowman08
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3 Posts
November 14 2011 06:58 GMT
#8
Excellent read as usual. Only mistake is that MVP lost the GSL finals, not MMA haha.
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yypisces
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan244 Posts
November 14 2011 06:58 GMT
#9
Mvp THE BEST SINCE 2011!
Flash, Jaedong, Bisu
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
November 14 2011 07:03 GMT
#10
Really liking the art, nice job!

I like the PR but I feel like there's only room for top 5. Great job otherwise.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
November 14 2011 07:06 GMT
#11
Hahaha huks portrait
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
November 14 2011 07:06 GMT
#12
Came for Leenoctopus, stayed for LosiraCat. Well played.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
November 14 2011 07:06 GMT
#13
wow, the art is amazing lol
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
November 14 2011 07:09 GMT
#14
Protoss affirmative action.
Lucko
Profile Joined May 2011
United States48 Posts
November 14 2011 07:10 GMT
#15
So you put oz in the top ten and not alive but predict him getting last in his group?
Either way good write up and give Huk a little more credit
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 14 2011 07:10 GMT
#16
lmao those player pics are fantastic. I love how the MVP pic even has him in magikarp mode.
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 14 2011 07:10 GMT
#17
The funny thing is, I JUST found out where LegalMind went.
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WesleyLok
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada99 Posts
November 14 2011 07:15 GMT
#18
Need I explain? GanZi is a boss. WCG finalist, AOL finalist, Code A Winner

WCG finals was Marineking and MVP.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
November 14 2011 07:21 GMT
#19
Oh god please tell me those are the new TLPD thumbs.
Thank God and gunrun.
Craminit
Profile Joined June 2011
United States58 Posts
November 14 2011 07:27 GMT
#20
poor TOP
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
November 14 2011 07:28 GMT
#21
I think your predictions are WAAAAAAAAAAY off.

But we shall see.
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GeneralSnoop
Profile Joined February 2011
United States142 Posts
November 14 2011 07:28 GMT
#22
Fionn articles are always so great, and Fishuu with some more excellent artwork. Losiracat snuggling with a baneling is probably the cutest thing i have ever seen.
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DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
November 14 2011 07:29 GMT
#23
When i saw the drawings, I stopped reading and scroll down to check the rest :D The Losira+Baneling pic is soo cute lawl :D
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
November 14 2011 07:31 GMT
#24
everything seems about right, but i DISAGREE with group D.
JJaki is one of the best terrans in the WORLD, hes up there.
Coca has proven that his zvt has significantly got better after joining slayers
gumiho... the dude took out nestea and recently beat DRG AND Bomber.. no easy task.
starstorm
Profile Joined March 2011
64 Posts
November 14 2011 07:32 GMT
#25
lol, is there actually a TOP fangirl? Or is that just the author taking creative license?
bikefrog
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway451 Posts
November 14 2011 07:33 GMT
#26
Great read! Can't wait :D
Foreigners fighting! Ovethrow our Korean overlords!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 14 2011 07:35 GMT
#27
I can't say enough how awesome Fishuu and Meko are.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
November 14 2011 07:36 GMT
#28

Okay, that's enough from you, MMA fan. I'm locking my PM box and if you keep bugging me, I will pick him to win the entire tournament like I did with poor Supernova.


ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL!!!


OMG Fionn, that was the funniest thing I think I have read in such a long time. It makes all the guilt I felt for teasing you during the LR thread for that day well worth it.

Awesome Write up you guys. I'm so stoked for the rest of this GSL.
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 14 2011 07:37 GMT
#29
Amazing read! I agree with the top 10 actually, well thought out.

Bran ganzi wasn't wcg finalist.right? It was mvp vs Mkp?
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parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
November 14 2011 07:37 GMT
#30
LOL i love player pic
CaptainTwig
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom532 Posts
November 14 2011 07:39 GMT
#31
On November 14 2011 16:32 starstorm wrote:
lol, is there actually a TOP fangirl? Or is that just the author taking creative license?


yup, you can hear her battle cry everytime he plays..


nice write up, can't get enough of these drawing. I particular like Ganzi's picture, captures his on screen demeanor so well!
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
November 14 2011 07:42 GMT
#32
On November 14 2011 15:50 Grettin wrote:
Good power rank. Loving the art!

oh, and just to throw it out there, Group D predictions(you heard it here first):
Gumiho
Coca
MVP
Jjakji

LOL u joking???
coca should be 1st... anyway great drawings :D...
Poor supernova T.T
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 14 2011 07:43 GMT
#33
Killer art should have been him in Immortal pose

[image loading]

I would have put Oz and MC over Killer in the power rank though. Killer has an awesome PvT but is terrible in both other match-ups
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Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 14 2011 07:43 GMT
#34
That Killer portrait. Too good.

Also, MMA to lose group A.
#freeshauni
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
November 14 2011 07:44 GMT
#35
Fishuu, I literally laughed out loud at the picture of killer hahaha - so good!
ex000r
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland74 Posts
November 14 2011 07:44 GMT
#36
nice read and i love those drawings =)
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
November 14 2011 07:45 GMT
#37
omg losira at the end
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Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
November 14 2011 07:45 GMT
#38
Oz, Killer, and Leenock all above MC in rankings? That is hard for me to believe personally.

Really love these rankings and write-ups though, very well written and entertaining.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
November 14 2011 07:47 GMT
#39
Great write-up, love the power ranks for sc2

And I think your picks were really sound to boot!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 07:49:09
November 14 2011 07:49 GMT
#40
There's like seven polt mentions in the entire article, more than Ganzi lol
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 08:03:38
November 14 2011 07:51 GMT
#41
Ganzi isn't a WCG finalist. That was MarineKing. In fact Ganzi didn't even make it out of group stages in WCG because he lost to, you guessed it, MVP.

edit: Other than that amazing and hilarious article Fionn. Fishuu those drawings are pure gold.

edit 2:
The Mecha Terran? Tank Dude? Game Shark Terran? Yeah, I can't think of a good one. Your job for this week as a community is give Happy a new nickname. I am counting on you to give him a good one.


I like yours. MiniVP sounds pretty good.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
November 14 2011 07:53 GMT
#42
You forgot that TOP lost 0-3 to Gatored in IEM ^___^
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elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
November 14 2011 08:05 GMT
#43
MMA fought back in Anaheim, using the crowd support and extra practice to take down MVP.

MVP won MLG Anaheim as well as the GanZi WCG finalist thing that a lot of people have mentioned but a great article nonetheless!
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
November 14 2011 08:09 GMT
#44
What amazing illustrations.

Oh, and Fionn, stop jinxing former GSL finalists. Especially Polt.
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Darth Caedus
Profile Joined May 2011
United States326 Posts
November 14 2011 08:09 GMT
#45
On November 14 2011 16:10 Lucko wrote:
So you put oz in the top ten and not alive but predict him getting last in his group?
Either way good write up and give Huk a little more credit



Different writers for the the two parts.
But yes, Huk is a boss.

HUK FIGHTING!!!!!!!
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
November 14 2011 08:09 GMT
#46
MVP #1 . Great write up, the top 3 is pretty much undebatable.
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
November 14 2011 08:10 GMT
#47
Sick writeup, power ranks look decently accurate as well. Can't wait to see what the remaining tosses can do.
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Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
November 14 2011 08:11 GMT
#48
oh leenock my little zerg buddy :D
Whatever happens, happens
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
November 14 2011 08:13 GMT
#49
IM and SlayerS dominating the power rank ^-^. Happy is so amusing,solid and inventive he needs a baller nickname.

No love for Taeja makes me sad, he's such a creative monster and the korean weeklies are like his personal allowance at this point.
DrZz
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania70 Posts
November 14 2011 08:17 GMT
#50
Ahahaha, nice portraits! Also I think you've got the power rank on the money.

Thanks!
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FluoCrazyKenny
Profile Joined July 2011
France90 Posts
November 14 2011 08:17 GMT
#51
I pretty aggre with your predictions. I'm very exciting to see the group A tomorrow.

By the way, the drawing of each player is excellent !
Swap
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden144 Posts
November 14 2011 08:27 GMT
#52
Great writeup! But completely crazy powerranking! :D
he he... ja
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 14 2011 08:37 GMT
#53
Great write up as usual wax, fionn, probe and I absolutely love the artwork by Fishuu, the Killer picture is just the epitome of manliness :D

Keep them coming, this one was a great break from my 10 page Law paper lol
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2011 08:40 GMT
#54
Why are the player drawings so cute. LOSIRA KITTY.
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
November 14 2011 08:41 GMT
#55
It's nice that it's been more explicitly labelled as a GSL power rank so the writers can completely dodge any hard Stephano-related questions. But hey, cool to get a quick list on who's doing well in the league I never watch.
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ThePinkFloyd
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium16 Posts
November 14 2011 08:43 GMT
#56
Great write up, good luck Huk but I'm not even daring to root for him.
Shodanss
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece245 Posts
November 14 2011 08:48 GMT
#57
On November 14 2011 17:41 sixfour wrote:
It's nice that it's been more explicitly labelled as a GSL power rank so the writers can completely dodge any hard Stephano-related questions. But hey, cool to get a quick list on who's doing well in the league I never watch.


Haters gonna hate...

In all seriousness, this is a GSL article, when your hard working Stephano goes to GSL he might have a spot up there(doubt it).Until then, why the hate?
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SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 09:02:02
November 14 2011 08:57 GMT
#58
This is a bad powerrank in my opinion... how is Taeja not even mentioned at all?

Taeja would be around 6th in my opinion. Huk being in the top 10 is fanboyism at its greatest; the best he has ever done is Round of 8 in GSL.Same with Sangho. Oz atleast placed second in code A, Leenock has done nothing noteworthy in my opinion...

1. MVP 2. MMA 3. Nestea 4. Ganzi 5. Happy 6. Taeja 7. Coca 8. Marineking 9. DRG 10. Gumiho or Oz - in my opinion.

When you consider that this is supposedly who's doing best in Korea and whos 'most scary' i dont think huk or sangho belong there, sorry. They've both been fortunate enough to have relatively easy groups of late (compared to othrs) and thats probably the only reason the got so far.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 09:01:50
November 14 2011 08:59 GMT
#59
Silence MMA-fan! xD

Amazing work as usual guys, both a great recap and really fun to read!

-----

This month's inagular award is a no-brainer.


was this meant to be inaugural, or am I being let down by my English?

----

On November 14 2011 17:57 SpunXtain wrote:
This is a bad powerrank in my opinion... how is Taeja not even mentioned at all?

Taeja would be around 6th in my opinion. Huk being in the top 10 is fanboyism at its greatest; the best he has ever done is Round of 8 in GSL.Same with Sangho. Oz atleast placed second in code A, Leenock has done nothing noteworthy in my opinion...

1. MVP 2. MMA 3. Nestea 4. Ganzi 5. Happy 6. Taeja 7. Coca 8. Marineking 9. DRG 10. Gumiho or Oz - in my opinion.


errr...Taeja still hasn't made it out of the GSL groupstage.

I'm a huge Taeja fan but until he delivers on the GSL stage he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in a top 10 like this. Once he breaks through (it really should be when, not if ><) then you can use his ESV performances to back up GSL results.
LXenJin
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 09:04:01
November 14 2011 09:01 GMT
#60
Is there a typo in Ganzi's part?

"The four people who weren't mistakes, MVP, Nestea, MMA and MVP, are the top four for this month and the only ones from last month who remain in the Power Rank."

And thanks for the awesome write-up!!!!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
November 14 2011 09:01 GMT
#61
On November 14 2011 17:48 Shodanss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 17:41 sixfour wrote:
It's nice that it's been more explicitly labelled as a GSL power rank so the writers can completely dodge any hard Stephano-related questions. But hey, cool to get a quick list on who's doing well in the league I never watch.


Haters gonna hate...

In all seriousness, this is a GSL article, when your hard working Stephano goes to GSL he might have a spot up there(doubt it).Until then, why the hate?


I love how anything other than overt gushing praise is regarded as hate now. I actually liked the article. I guess when the last one says that foreign tournaments are considered but nowhere near as much as GS(T)L, and now it's just a GSL power rank, it looks like it's just trying to avoid the interesting questions. Could at least list in the CBNC and say something.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 09:06:54
November 14 2011 09:01 GMT
#62
On November 14 2011 17:05 elwoodng wrote:
MMA fought back in Anaheim, using the crowd support and extra practice to take down MVP.

MVP won MLG Anaheim as well as the GanZi WCG finalist thing that a lot of people have mentioned but a great article nonetheless!


I thought that at first but Anaheim meant Blizzcon, not MLG.

Thanks for the writeup. Those pics are hella cute as usual, and watching Cella's stream recently I saw the older Losira cat picture when he brought up TL ^^ It's good to know those guys can see the fan art and enjoy it too.

@sixfour: this power rank has been specifically for GSL a couple times running now. Check the first one of this format (previously there was a 32 man power rank relating to desserts or something)...it explains it all there. If you're in GSL, you're eligible for this article, period. This isn't the "ignore stephano" thread, and you probably are well aware that the TLPD top 5 rankings show Stephano at #1 for SC2 (International).

There's a few other Europeans I've never heard of there as well, plus Idra.
...kidding!
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 09:12:44
November 14 2011 09:08 GMT
#63
On November 14 2011 17:59 Asha` wrote:

1. MVP 2. MMA 3. Nestea 4. Ganzi 5. Happy 6. Taeja 7. Coca 8. Marineking 9. DRG 10. Gumiho or Oz - in my opinion.


errr...Taeja still hasn't made it out of the GSL groupstage.

I'm a huge Taeja fan but until he delivers on the GSL stage he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in a top 10 like this. Once he breaks through (it really should be when, not if ><) then you can use his ESV performances to back up GSL results.[/QUOTE]

The dude has a phenomenal record in the ESV, not just 'good'. I encourage everyone to go look at it. This is a full 64 man tournament with some of the best korean players in the world.

HE HAS WON 6 of the last 7 of them. Statistically, that is a mathematical miracle. If we assumed all players had an equal chance of winning a 64 man tournament, for someone to win 6 times is a probability of around 1 in 60 million.

Futhermore, in the finals, they have been 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-0 and 4-3. He has absolutely dominated that tournament. No other playr has more than one gold; Taeja has 6 gold and a silver, and I believe has placed in the semis a couple times as well.

Sure, GSL-wise he has been underwhelming - as most new players are. DRG and MMA come to mind - two players who performed phenomenally in other tournaments before breaking out in GSL.

Taeja is a monster, theres no debating it.
antzilla
Profile Joined June 2009
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 09:16:00
November 14 2011 09:15 GMT
#64
On November 14 2011 18:08 SpunXtain wrote:

The dude has a phenomenal record in the ESV, not just 'good'. I encourage everyone to go look at it. This is a full 64 man tournament with some of the best korean players in the world.

HE HAS WON 6 of the last 7 of them. Statistically, that is a mathematical miracle. Futhermore, in the finals, they have been 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-0 and 4-3. He has absolutely dominated that tournament. No other playr has more than one gold; Taeja has 6 gold and a silver, and I believe has placed in the semis a couple times as well.

Sure, GSL-wise he has been underwhelming - as most new players are. DRG and MMA come to mind - two players who performed phenomenally in other tournaments before breaking out in GSL.

Taeja is a monster, theres no debating it.


Taeja is a beast for sure, but he hasn't defeated any of the other players in the power rank in the last few months except maybe Oz. All his victories mean is that he can defeat lower-tier Korean players with consistency. Until he can deliver in the GSL, he has no argument to be placed above the other players, all of whom have proven that they can survive among the best-of-the-best.
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
November 14 2011 09:40 GMT
#65
Man, I'm really loving the power ranks. Nice write up!

It's gotten to a point where I love so many players I no longer know who to root for XD
Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
November 14 2011 10:15 GMT
#66
Great writeup, but i really dont think that huk is top10 in the world eventhough i am his fan.
curlfry
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia103 Posts
November 14 2011 10:16 GMT
#67
Well deserved award, for TOP.
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TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
November 14 2011 10:21 GMT
#68
Good article! I especially enjoyed your power rank preview Fionn
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
November 14 2011 10:45 GMT
#69
Really impressed with the write up, amazing job
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courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
November 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#70
1-8 seem legit, 9 and 10 seem like more of process by elimination.
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
November 14 2011 10:54 GMT
#71
Group C is the group of uncertainty but D is the polar opposite. MVP is going to LOL all over the group. Sorry. It's worth noting that his opponents' names are FXOGuMiho, SlayerS_CoCa, and NsHS_Jjakji. Compared to MVP, they're just inanimate objects in space. Since it's pretty obvious that MVP will win doing whatever he wants, I'm just going to list the slightly less likely ways MVP might take his games.


This line seems really silly to me.... Jjaki Coca and Gumiho are insanely good top tier players... MVP has seemed very mortal recently so I would not say for sure that MVP takes first in this group, i'm really uncertain who it will be but any of these players could easily top MVP for first place in this group.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
November 14 2011 10:58 GMT
#72
On November 14 2011 18:01 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 17:48 Shodanss wrote:
On November 14 2011 17:41 sixfour wrote:
It's nice that it's been more explicitly labelled as a GSL power rank so the writers can completely dodge any hard Stephano-related questions. But hey, cool to get a quick list on who's doing well in the league I never watch.


Haters gonna hate...

In all seriousness, this is a GSL article, when your hard working Stephano goes to GSL he might have a spot up there(doubt it).Until then, why the hate?


I love how anything other than overt gushing praise is regarded as hate now. I actually liked the article. I guess when the last one says that foreign tournaments are considered but nowhere near as much as GS(T)L, and now it's just a GSL power rank, it looks like it's just trying to avoid the interesting questions. Could at least list in the CBNC and say something.


It's a GSL power ranking, it's for players in the GSL. When saying foreigner tournaments are considered, OP means "GSL players' performances in foreigner tournaments are considered". When Stephano plays in the GSL, he can be considered. And if you don't watch the GSL, it's your loss.
n0btozz
Profile Joined January 2011
Iceland115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 11:09:17
November 14 2011 11:03 GMT
#73
I cannot into seeing MC being worse then either HuK (yes HuK won him in some pvp´s...big whoop) or Killer. MC has 2 titles, MC had a slump yes, but so did MVP, somehow nobody ever doubted his skill, even though his slump came from him being a terran player, a predominant race in the game (simply based on statistics, no balance whine)

MC should be there in 7th place imo, Killer shouldn´t be there, and HuK should be 9/10th.

MC´s slump was simply him losing a couple of games, not being BossToss for a bit, and not making Protoss look like it was a viable race at the time, which it wasn´t even though he got those 2 amazing titles. Since MC´s fall many protoss players have been predicted to take his throne, be the "new generation" of protoss. None of those players have done fk all in the GSL, and no, going far in Code A is not enough to take MC´s crown.

MC won the GSL twice, made a race that nobody else could use properly actually win a GSL, that´s pretty sick, he was (and is I think) the only protoss who has had over or around 70% win ratio in the GSL. Most Protoss havn´t even been able to get over 50% even though they are immensely skilled, that puts MC´s slump into perspective.

In a personal ranking of just skill shown in the game, regardless of skill, i´d put 1. NesTea 2. MVP 3. MC - Those are the kings, MMA isn´t even close to these overall, and has been at the top for a very short while and I doubt his stay there will be prolonged.

My 2 cents, great writeup btw :D
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fujins
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania23 Posts
November 14 2011 11:10 GMT
#74
yeee go inca:D
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
November 14 2011 11:11 GMT
#75
Great read, great work. Gotta put TL on my feedreader to get these...
"more gg, more skill"
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 14 2011 11:24 GMT
#76
<3 the art
<3 the power rank
<3 the group's

<3 TL news =D
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Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2574 Posts
November 14 2011 11:25 GMT
#77
I love the art. It lifts my spirits.
Wishing you well.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
November 14 2011 11:28 GMT
#78
Killer ? Really ? What a joke... he wouldn't be TOP 20 if it was my call !
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 14 2011 11:28 GMT
#79
On November 14 2011 19:54 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Group C is the group of uncertainty but D is the polar opposite. MVP is going to LOL all over the group. Sorry. It's worth noting that his opponents' names are FXOGuMiho, SlayerS_CoCa, and NsHS_Jjakji. Compared to MVP, they're just inanimate objects in space. Since it's pretty obvious that MVP will win doing whatever he wants, I'm just going to list the slightly less likely ways MVP might take his games.


This line seems really silly to me.... Jjaki Coca and Gumiho are insanely good top tier players... MVP has seemed very mortal recently so I would not say for sure that MVP takes first in this group, i'm really uncertain who it will be but any of these players could easily top MVP for first place in this group.


MVP has seemed mortal? He has people clamoring about him being a bonjwa for crying out loud. Coca loses to every elite TvZer he faces. MVP annihilated him when they met in the GSL global invitational. Gumiho has great potential but is ridiculously inconsistent. Jjakji is good, but you don't beat MVP in a TvT unless you're in SlayerS, and Jjakji is not. Obviously no one is 100% invincible but MVP is about as big a favorite as you can get in the Ro16.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
November 14 2011 11:31 GMT
#80
Awesome drawings. Thanks for the article.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
November 14 2011 11:32 GMT
#81
On November 14 2011 19:54 Toppp wrote:
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Group C is the group of uncertainty but D is the polar opposite. MVP is going to LOL all over the group. Sorry. It's worth noting that his opponents' names are FXOGuMiho, SlayerS_CoCa, and NsHS_Jjakji. Compared to MVP, they're just inanimate objects in space. Since it's pretty obvious that MVP will win doing whatever he wants, I'm just going to list the slightly less likely ways MVP might take his games.


This line seems really silly to me.... Jjaki Coca and Gumiho are insanely good top tier players... MVP has seemed very mortal recently so I would not say for sure that MVP takes first in this group, i'm really uncertain who it will be but any of these players could easily top MVP for first place in this group.


What the hell have you been watching lol? MVP looking mortal?

MVP will crush that group, and only someone who's been living in a hole could say MVP is looking mortal right now. The way he's playing right now, he's a 80-20 favorite against any of those three.
secret - never again
Kring
Profile Joined August 2011
Portugal70 Posts
November 14 2011 11:53 GMT
#82
Best power rank edition ever!!!
Evolution complete
Fritti
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands52 Posts
November 14 2011 12:04 GMT
#83
On November 14 2011 16:21 Primadog wrote:
Oh god please tell me those are the new TLPD thumbs.


This this triple times this!
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
November 14 2011 12:04 GMT
#84
Awesome thread. Thanks for the effort^^
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klo8
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria1960 Posts
November 14 2011 12:17 GMT
#85
Oh my God, those drawings are the cutest thing in the world. :3
This post is clearly not a hurr, as you can see from the graph, the durr never intersects with the derp.
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
November 14 2011 12:30 GMT
#86
I'm surprised Leenock is above Curious..other than that I agree with your rankings.
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
November 14 2011 12:32 GMT
#87
Really appreciated this article!
If you can chill.. Chill!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 14 2011 12:37 GMT
#88
omfg Ganzi's pic is so true, but tbh I am dissapoint after reading the header of this power ranking

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)TheBest
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
November 14 2011 12:40 GMT
#89
cute post, especially the drawings :D
BoxersGosuGarden
Profile Joined April 2011
Philippines155 Posts
November 14 2011 12:40 GMT
#90
1. IM
2. SlayerS
3. IM
4. SlayerS
5. IM
6. SlayerS
zerg sad
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
November 14 2011 12:43 GMT
#91
Don't know what to say...these pics...are so AWESOME! Well done!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 14 2011 12:47 GMT
#92
Excellent writeup like always, good read good read. And for most i would agree, but i would put MMA at 3 instead of 2. But that is debateble ofc.
mikeDS
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia25 Posts
November 14 2011 12:59 GMT
#93
Anyone know what happened to LegalMind?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 14 2011 13:10 GMT
#94
awesome preview, loved the portraits!
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
November 14 2011 13:19 GMT
#95
I really hope these pictures replace the TLPD ones. Incredibly well done, and with some nice touches of the players' personalities as well.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 14 2011 13:31 GMT
#96
The art is awesome
The GSL logo at the top of the post in a yellow background is beautiful, great work !

And the text is great as always. Always a good moment when I discover a new GSL article is up =)
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
November 14 2011 14:01 GMT
#97
Amazing stuff. Fishuu's art is so awesome!!
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 14 2011 14:16 GMT
#98
Drawings are awesome.

For once I hope the predictions in this preview are somewhat accurate, history tells us that I will be very disappointed in the Ro8.
I had a good night of sleep.
Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
November 14 2011 14:26 GMT
#99
Fionn and Fishuu make a great team for the Power Rank. Hope to see them keep this up!
I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
November 14 2011 14:30 GMT
#100
haha love the pics! great job!
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 14 2011 14:38 GMT
#101
I question only Leenock on the power rank, hmm that octopussy...
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
ShallNoiseUpon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States311 Posts
November 14 2011 14:41 GMT
#102
On November 14 2011 20:03 n0btozz wrote:
I cannot into seeing MC being worse then either HuK (yes HuK won him in some pvp´s...big whoop) or Killer. MC has 2 titles, MC had a slump yes, but so did MVP, somehow nobody ever doubted his skill, even though his slump came from him being a terran player, a predominant race in the game (simply based on statistics, no balance whine)

MC should be there in 7th place imo, Killer shouldn´t be there, and HuK should be 9/10th.

MC´s slump was simply him losing a couple of games, not being BossToss for a bit, and not making Protoss look like it was a viable race at the time, which it wasn´t even though he got those 2 amazing titles. Since MC´s fall many protoss players have been predicted to take his throne, be the "new generation" of protoss. None of those players have done fk all in the GSL, and no, going far in Code A is not enough to take MC´s crown.

MC won the GSL twice, made a race that nobody else could use properly actually win a GSL, that´s pretty sick, he was (and is I think) the only protoss who has had over or around 70% win ratio in the GSL. Most Protoss havn´t even been able to get over 50% even though they are immensely skilled, that puts MC´s slump into perspective.

In a personal ranking of just skill shown in the game, regardless of skill, i´d put 1. NesTea 2. MVP 3. MC - Those are the kings, MMA isn´t even close to these overall, and has been at the top for a very short while and I doubt his stay there will be prolonged.

My 2 cents, great writeup btw :D


Not sure if you know how a Power Ranking works, but it is based on recent results. MC has had shit results and nothing of real mention lately.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
November 14 2011 14:47 GMT
#103
Might as well copy paste the PR FAQ from last month :O

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Yes, dear friend, you are not seeing an illusion. For the end of September, I've decided to spice things up. For this week's GSL rundown, I've decided to try and do the first ever GSL Power Rankings. Now, I know you might have some questions about what this is or how it works, so let me guide you through some of the common guidelines of this feature.

Seriously, TeamLiquid? Is this your first step in phasing out Brood War and it's Power Ranking? I will not stand for this injustice!

No, no, no. This is not going to take over TeamLiquid's fantastic Brood War monthly Power Ranking. In fact, this isn't TeamLiquid's Starcraft 2 Power Ranking at all. This is my own idea that I'm trying out and seeing if you guys enjoy it All thoughts and opinions in this piece are from and by me. No horses were injured in the process in the writing of this article.

Alright, so how does this Power Ranking thing work anyway? Is it monthly? Bi-monthly? Is it a ranking of the players achievements throughout the last year?

Well, due to the fact that the GSL is still a growing league and not as mature as it's Brood War counterpart, which has two running leagues and an all year Proleague where teams play every single week, I found it hard to do a ranking based solely on the past month. Instead, this ranking is based over the past few months of GSL tournaments and the GSTL season that is currently running. Of course, doing better currently weighs more than getting to quarterfinals four months ago, and to be in my top ten, you must show consistently good play.

Is the GSTL weighted the same as the GSL?

No. GSTL does factor in, and winning consistently can look good on your record, but for me, you need to also do well in the main leagues (especially Code S). We've seen so many amazing GSTL heroes like Seed (remember him?) and Squirtle come along, amaze us and Artosis with their play in the team league, and then fade away into the depths of Code B.

Do tournaments like MLG, Arena of Legends, WCG and other non-GOM tournaments matter?

Yes, but they are way undervalued below GSL and GSTL. Those tournaments can be based off how popular a player is or if their team has enough money to send them. Not every team has had the money to send people to foreign events to shine or had the exposure to be selected into special tournaments like Arena of Legends. I can't give major points to a player for doing so well at an event when another didn't get the same opportunity for reasons completely out of their control.

I'm starting to understand it now, but why do I not agree with your Power Ranking? Why isn't TheBest #1!? This is awful and I do not agree with your opinion!

That's great! I am not the Master of Power Rankings. I do not sit on a throne with my scepter and give the official word on who the best player in the world is. Everyone has their opinion and that is what makes TeamLiquid one of the best communities on the internet. This Power Ranking, in a lot of ways, is just a way to open a debate for the rest of you.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
November 14 2011 15:02 GMT
#104
leenoctopus! :3 so cute
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
November 14 2011 15:15 GMT
#105
On November 14 2011 18:01 Ansinjunger wrote:
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On November 14 2011 17:05 elwoodng wrote:
MMA fought back in Anaheim, using the crowd support and extra practice to take down MVP.

MVP won MLG Anaheim as well as the GanZi WCG finalist thing that a lot of people have mentioned but a great article nonetheless!


I thought that at first but Anaheim meant Blizzcon, not MLG.

Ah I see, my bad.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#106
Oh my God the buttons are freaking amazing O.O

And why Fionn, why you do this to us
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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
November 14 2011 15:38 GMT
#107
That was the most adorable Power Rank I've ever seen.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
InvXXVII
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada242 Posts
November 14 2011 15:40 GMT
#108
Who made the cartoon pics? Theye are so cuteeeeeeee!!
A good loser is still a loser.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
November 14 2011 15:49 GMT
#109
Those pics are... GOD.

If this writeup gets made every week now, I might have to change my religion.
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 14 2011 15:54 GMT
#110
The real question is, which team will dominate this season's GSL, IM or Slayers?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
November 14 2011 16:05 GMT
#111
Waxangel I feel that you haven't learned from your ealier mistake of underestimating HuK in the Ro32. He showed at Orlando that he can play with the big boys--and win. I seriously think MMA is the only one in that group that will actually take him out. And even then I think it will be close. Granted he was a little rocky the first half of this year, but the last month or so he has been playing amazingly.

I say MMA, HuK, Nestea, Leenok.

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
November 14 2011 16:07 GMT
#112
On November 15 2011 01:05 TheToast wrote:
Waxangel I feel that you haven't learned from your ealier mistake of underestimating HuK in the Ro32. He showed at Orlando that he can play with the big boys--and win. I seriously think MMA is the only one in that group that will actually take him out. And even then I think it will be close. Granted he was a little rocky the first half of this year, but the last month or so he has been playing amazingly.

I say MMA, HuK, Nestea, Leenok.



what I personally picked HuK to get out of his group :O

Fionn is a hater, tho :o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
November 14 2011 16:23 GMT
#113
On November 15 2011 01:07 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 01:05 TheToast wrote:
Waxangel I feel that you haven't learned from your ealier mistake of underestimating HuK in the Ro32. He showed at Orlando that he can play with the big boys--and win. I seriously think MMA is the only one in that group that will actually take him out. And even then I think it will be close. Granted he was a little rocky the first half of this year, but the last month or so he has been playing amazingly.

I say MMA, HuK, Nestea, Leenok.



what I personally picked HuK to get out of his group :O

Fionn is a hater, tho :o


Ah, that was Fionn. Sorry!

But then you should learn from Fionn's ill-fated mistake.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
November 14 2011 16:31 GMT
#114
looking through this thread pretty much shows some poster dont know how tl power rank works.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
November 14 2011 16:38 GMT
#115
wow these are amazing. keep it up please!
High Risk Low Reward
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
November 14 2011 16:44 GMT
#116
On November 15 2011 01:23 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 01:07 Waxangel wrote:
On November 15 2011 01:05 TheToast wrote:
Waxangel I feel that you haven't learned from your ealier mistake of underestimating HuK in the Ro32. He showed at Orlando that he can play with the big boys--and win. I seriously think MMA is the only one in that group that will actually take him out. And even then I think it will be close. Granted he was a little rocky the first half of this year, but the last month or so he has been playing amazingly.

I say MMA, HuK, Nestea, Leenok.



what I personally picked HuK to get out of his group :O

Fionn is a hater, tho :o


Ah, that was Fionn. Sorry!

But then you should learn from Fionn's ill-fated mistake.


but probe1 wrote the RO16 predictions D:
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
November 14 2011 16:46 GMT
#117
I "awwwwed" at the Leenock Art, awesome Power Rank with awesome people.
Fishuu FTW
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
November 14 2011 16:52 GMT
#118
hm great article but i dont quite agree with the power rank

oz huk killer coca out and mkp bomber drg losira/mc in would be good imo
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
November 14 2011 16:55 GMT
#119
On November 15 2011 01:44 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 01:23 TheToast wrote:
On November 15 2011 01:07 Waxangel wrote:
On November 15 2011 01:05 TheToast wrote:
Waxangel I feel that you haven't learned from your ealier mistake of underestimating HuK in the Ro32. He showed at Orlando that he can play with the big boys--and win. I seriously think MMA is the only one in that group that will actually take him out. And even then I think it will be close. Granted he was a little rocky the first half of this year, but the last month or so he has been playing amazingly.

I say MMA, HuK, Nestea, Leenok.



what I personally picked HuK to get out of his group :O

Fionn is a hater, tho :o


Ah, that was Fionn. Sorry!

But then you should learn from Fionn's ill-fated mistake.


but probe1 wrote the RO16 predictions D:


Goddamn..... yeah I see his tiny name hidden under the title now. It's like how your eyes suddenly jump to Waldo everytime after someone points him out.

Well, to hades with all of the world's HuK haters! We shall see shortly who gets gloating rights....
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 17:12:43
November 14 2011 16:55 GMT
#120
Yessss fishuu got MVP right this time, his mouth is open lol

Great pics and article

edit: LOL at the Gheed worker rush namedropping
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
November 14 2011 16:58 GMT
#121
I agree with MVP first and MMA second, but I don't think it matters that MVP has the easier group in GSL, those games haven't been played yet. 3-10 is so hard to call though.

My feedback on the art is that I prefer the more traditional photographs.
EventHorizoN
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany101 Posts
November 14 2011 16:59 GMT
#122
This is the best StarCraft 2 GSL article i've ever ret! <3

Huge thanks and GanZi fighting! :D
Urlacher
dala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden477 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 17:26:32
November 14 2011 17:24 GMT
#123
Fishuu <3

[image loading]
dala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden477 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 17:26:03
November 14 2011 17:25 GMT
#124
Noorgrin
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany116 Posts
November 14 2011 17:43 GMT
#125
those drawings <3
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GoatSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden63 Posts
November 14 2011 17:44 GMT
#126
No matter what I read... This makes me so damn happy, I guess it's the pictures.

Really though, I love how your stuff is always so good to read!
Never stop fighting!
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
November 14 2011 18:22 GMT
#127
sick graphics
Writer
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 14 2011 18:25 GMT
#128
Great article!
Loved the ranking.

I'm really not up to date lately, I don't have a lot of time to watch the GSL sadly. This PR is very useful to keep up.
eteran
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany83 Posts
November 14 2011 18:30 GMT
#129
awesome artwork. hope MC gets in there next time so I can steal of his portrait to use as avatar
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
November 14 2011 18:34 GMT
#130
These portraits LOL. Best portraits go to Killer and Huk. Oh and Mvp I guess for having his mouth open =D
The Notorious Winkles
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
November 14 2011 19:15 GMT
#131
Amazingly written as always, and yet this time there was more.

That artwork! :D Really awesome pictures. The Happy picture is hilarious ^__^
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
November 14 2011 19:22 GMT
#132
MC T_T i want my MC back.
When life gives you Stalkers, Get blink.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 19:51:22
November 14 2011 19:34 GMT
#133
I still think (P)MC is underrated. His MLG run was far more impressive than (P)Oz's recent achievements, and even (T)MMA has a lower TvP percentage than 50%. I reckon the reason MMA has looked so impressive has been because of his excellent TvZ and TvT (although his TvZ definitely has holes in it, showcased by (Z)Lucky at IPL). His TvP has never looked impressive, which with the return of Protoss to GSL may prove his downfall.

I also find it really hard to imagine (P)HuK/(P)SangHo at least 3 places up from MC. Of course, I'm an oGsMC fanboy, but Killer's only games which have EVER really impressed me were the PvT against some more faceless Code S Terrans. He got to the Ro16 last time through (T)Polt's curious choke and terrible play rather than through any prowess of his own. Sure, he's good, and the manliest Protoss in GSL (with Hero being the cutest, MC being the scariest and Huk being... the foreigner), but even with MC's slump (which he has now emerged from, it seems), Killer doesn't look fantastic as Protoss. Of course, I suppose even if he is just "decent", rather than excellent, at least he has been consistently decent. It was MC's slump and following unpredictability which made him hard to rank as a player. I think the reason why Oz is being placed above MC is not so much on results but on a gut feeling (as you said). I'm OK with that, but definitely not Killer, unless there's . He's not Top 7, IMO.

And Huk... hmm. MC's famous for his unpredictability with results, but I would say that Huk's own variance has slipped by unnoticed. Perhaps there was less expectation, perhaps he did not have a noticeable slump, perhaps foreign bias changed perspective, but going straight from winning MLG Orlando off the back of his stellar PvP and Pv(T)MKP and Pv(T)TheStC (still in Code B), he then lost in the NASL 0-2 to (Z)DarKFoRcE. DARKFORCE. I mean, he's a good EU Zerg, but nowhere near Code S material. From there, to losing to (T)Rain in the EG Masters Cup. He then lost in the ASUS ROG to (P)elfi, when PvP seemed to be Huk's strongest match-up, and then finally lost to (T)BRAT_OK in the NASL. To accuse MC of unpredictability and then go with HuK for rank 8 seems inconsistent. Unless you are only using GSL results/games, in which case HuK shouldn't even be in the Top 10. His GSL games alone have never seemed amazing.

Still, it's not my Top 10 list. And hey - I'm wrong all the time. I thought MVP would beat MMA. I thought Huk would beat DarkForce. I thought Polt/Supernova/Nada would stay in Code S.
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
November 14 2011 19:35 GMT
#134
Fishuu's artwork should be used as the players' TLPD profile pictures.
This space for rent.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
November 14 2011 19:37 GMT
#135
Man, the LegalMind award has stay a permanent fixture in these monthly power ranks :D
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 14 2011 19:39 GMT
#136
Great writeup <3 keep them coming!
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
November 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#137
FIshuu, your graphics are amazing!
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SlimeBagly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 20:02:52
November 14 2011 20:01 GMT
#138
I feel a little like Huk is Mitt Romney- everyone is desperate to find another (korean) protoss to pick as better than him. They flirt with MC, JYP, killer... Let's all just embrace that HuK's the best protoss, and be happy about it, and stop picking him to lose every game he's in!
mutalisks are awesome!
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
November 14 2011 20:05 GMT
#139
Hmmm you give coca a little to much credit. Saying his group was the hardest is very far out there when there are groups like Happy, Guminho, Bomber, and DRG and sC, Losira, Nestea, and asd. I even think Huk's group was harder.
Evil Geniuses<3
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
November 14 2011 20:11 GMT
#140
I like the drawings, but I think that GuMiho was really neglected here. I agree with the top five, and maybe even six, but I really think that GuMiho should be on the list at the very least. I know that he gets a mention, but I feel that he, Happy, or GanZi have the best chance of winning the GSL if you don't include the past champions (which doesn't really mean much because I'm fairly certain that one of the top 3 on your list will win the GSL). I think that GuMiho deserves a spot over HuK, though I like to see Leenock and Oz up there, as they've really earned it.

HuK beat Clide, who, despite what Artosis may say, is far from the most impressive Terran--especially his TvP. And then HuK went on to beat Puzzle in PvP, but HuK's PvP has always been an off-and-on match-up, where he'll destroy MC in an MLG finals and then lose to Elfi at ASUS ROG Stars Invite. Obviously it's cool to see HuK up there since he's a foreigner, and I think that he has earned a spot in the Top 10, but I have been a lot more impressed with GuMiho's recent improvements instead of HuK's play.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
November 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#141
Such sick drawings.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Night Eyes
Profile Joined January 2011
433 Posts
November 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#142
I think I just saw the best power rank ever...
Thank you
excellent!
Minzy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia387 Posts
November 14 2011 20:20 GMT
#143
nice write up, really love the drawings of the players.
Huh...
Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
November 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#144
On November 14 2011 18:01 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 17:48 Shodanss wrote:
On November 14 2011 17:41 sixfour wrote:
It's nice that it's been more explicitly labelled as a GSL power rank so the writers can completely dodge any hard Stephano-related questions. But hey, cool to get a quick list on who's doing well in the league I never watch.


Haters gonna hate...

In all seriousness, this is a GSL article, when your hard working Stephano goes to GSL he might have a spot up there(doubt it).Until then, why the hate?


I love how anything other than overt gushing praise is regarded as hate now. I actually liked the article. I guess when the last one says that foreign tournaments are considered but nowhere near as much as GS(T)L, and now it's just a GSL power rank, it looks like it's just trying to avoid the interesting questions. Could at least list in the CBNC and say something.


In all honesty it just makes me more excited to see extremely overrated european heroes like Stephano and Elfi go to Korea so I can be super amused at the mistakes their fanboys make when they pull out after 3 months of no results.
Futarchy
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore59 Posts
November 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#145
Great write up but I must admit that I was terribly distracted by the lovely drawings.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 14 2011 20:32 GMT
#146
On November 15 2011 05:05 soulist wrote:
Hmmm you give coca a little to much credit. Saying his group was the hardest is very far out there when there are groups like Happy, Guminho, Bomber, and DRG and sC, Losira, Nestea, and asd. I even think Huk's group was harder.


With Bomber's slump, I can't really say his group was the hardest. Also Losira's ZvT isn't all that great and asd is really unknown to me; I can't put my finger on if he is really good or not. Like others have said in this thread, I rank Taeja very highly when it comes to terran and Nada as well.

Also, if there are some small mistakes writing wise in said article, I apologize. I wrote this the day after my birthday and half-asleep.

Happy you enjoyed fishuu's pictures. Hopefully we can do this monthly.
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Zinjil
Profile Joined February 2011
United States166 Posts
November 14 2011 20:37 GMT
#147
I really like the inclusion of sangho on the power ranking. It's good to see the absolutely beautiful pvt he showed in his ro32 games didn't go unnoticed by the TL staff. Those games really looked like the future of PvT on large maps to me, and showcased the quality of at least one of the new maps.
ChiIIgetoutGG
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada101 Posts
November 14 2011 21:05 GMT
#148
This Christmas the Boss Toss is BACK.
"Seriously quit this business already, you are immature, not even good caster and TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR GENDER."
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
November 14 2011 21:24 GMT
#149
Everyone in huk's group is in PR. sad sad sad. Still i think he can come out of it alive.
White-Ra fighting!
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 14 2011 21:39 GMT
#150
TOP will be back. He will make you all rue the day you doubted him.


The pictures are really cute too
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
November 14 2011 21:40 GMT
#151
There was not that much thoughr put into your group B predictions.... IMO
TvP is Happy's worst matchup and aLive's best
PvT is Oz's best mu
Killer is a beast
Don't think happy should be on top of that group considering how relatively
Bad is TvP is, and having 2 toss in the group..
rip prime
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 21:56:20
November 14 2011 21:55 GMT
#152
On November 15 2011 05:15 Night Eyes wrote:
I think I just saw the best power rank ever...
Thank you

Yeah I absolutely loved it all.
Great article; I can't wait for GSL now.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
November 14 2011 21:59 GMT
#153
Oz in top 10???

Bold.

Great writeup btw.
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
November 14 2011 22:04 GMT
#154
btw - how high is the quality of GSL games this season? SC2 is really improving.
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
November 14 2011 22:05 GMT
#155
Oz is great but hes not top 10. I think in terms of skill Bomber should be top 10, hell even top 5. He only did bad this GSL cause he was tired from traveling to other events and had no pratice (he said that himself). I watched the online MLG korean tourney thingy where bomber played MVP, that was stellar.
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
Wychwood
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom57 Posts
November 14 2011 22:05 GMT
#156
On November 14 2011 15:39 Waxangel wrote:
Sage: Artosis is already planning on how to miss his daughter's birth if somehow Sage and Nestea play each other on that day.


This made my day, thank you Waxangel, you are comedic genius!!!!
For the good of the Barcraft
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
November 14 2011 22:41 GMT
#157
On November 15 2011 07:05 Wychwood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 15:39 Waxangel wrote:
Sage: Artosis is already planning on how to miss his daughter's birth if somehow Sage and Nestea play each other on that day.


This made my day, thank you Waxangel, you are comedic genius!!!!


Things to change in layout: Make author by line more visible.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
fishuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States369 Posts
November 14 2011 22:58 GMT
#158
Love these writeups C:

On November 15 2011 05:32 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 05:05 soulist wrote:
Hmmm you give coca a little to much credit. Saying his group was the hardest is very far out there when there are groups like Happy, Guminho, Bomber, and DRG and sC, Losira, Nestea, and asd. I even think Huk's group was harder.


With Bomber's slump, I can't really say his group was the hardest. Also Losira's ZvT isn't all that great and asd is really unknown to me; I can't put my finger on if he is really good or not. Like others have said in this thread, I rank Taeja very highly when it comes to terran and Nada as well.

Also, if there are some small mistakes writing wise in said article, I apologize. I wrote this the day after my birthday and half-asleep.

Happy you enjoyed fishuu's pictures. Hopefully we can do this monthly.


We totally should!
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
November 14 2011 23:00 GMT
#159
THis-Is-Amazing. Insane write-up, and whoever did the fan arts are totally baller. Love the Losira baneling one at the end
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10329 Posts
November 14 2011 23:06 GMT
#160
also, very nice ranking

even tho there are a couple rankings/players i don't want to put up there, you are right CURRENTLY this is what the list should look like :D killer quite the good protoss
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aiuradun
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark115 Posts
November 14 2011 23:06 GMT
#161
hehe nice write up and love the drawings great work
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10329 Posts
November 14 2011 23:10 GMT
#162
o yea nice drawings and i take back what i said about the rankings, supernova has been doing really well recently he should definitely take leenock's spot xD
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Share_The_Land
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 23:31:20
November 14 2011 23:12 GMT
#163
Again you have outdone yourself Waxangel. Another fantastic writeup, and holy shniekies am I excited this week! Just so happens that my birthday is Nov.15th and if I was a solipsist I would believe that GSL made such a godlike group just for me! I can't wait, I am beyond excited, this shall be a week to remember!

EDIT: Thanks to Fionn and Fishuu also, you guys are too boss for the building.
"Turns out he's a former Counterstrike pro and grabs his ak!" - Tasteless
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 14 2011 23:57 GMT
#164
This has to be one of the best GSL posts ever! The one thing that I argue with is NesTea vs HuK. Nestea is better. By far. But Huk somehow just ALWAYS beats NesTea. On ladder, in the all-star thing, it is kind of a pre-determined thing. Plus with Nestea's little slump ( if you can call it that), HuK should beat NesTea.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
November 15 2011 00:04 GMT
#165
Ahaha I loved the artwork! The infamous MVP magikarp face might be my favorite.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10329 Posts
November 15 2011 00:18 GMT
#166
oh LOL i just noticed MVP's pose brotatolol xD

nestea's is very fitting, so are other people's like ganzi's haha!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
maxmap
Profile Joined October 2011
Korea (South)11 Posts
November 15 2011 01:25 GMT
#167
OMG there are second best terran, number one zerg and perhaps the best protoss in the world being in the same group.
RIP leenock
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
November 15 2011 01:45 GMT
#168
Great write up really enjoyed it! keep the power ranks coming!!
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
November 15 2011 01:45 GMT
#169
Haha I love the player drawings. so cute!
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
November 15 2011 02:50 GMT
#170
Happy Killer and Oz pictures are just so funny, even Ganzi pic is awesome 10/10
The road isn't always straight.
JunkkaGom
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)855 Posts
November 15 2011 04:02 GMT
#171
This is the best TL article I've read so far. Almost wish I had the time to translate the whole thing and put the link and translation on Korean GSL site.
Workload overwhelming. It is a good day to work
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 15 2011 04:19 GMT
#172
On November 15 2011 13:02 JunkkaGom wrote:
This is the best TL article I've read so far. Almost wish I had the time to translate the whole thing and put the link and translation on Korean GSL site.


You should do it, John. If you do, I'll get fishuu to draw you married to MarineKing's sister.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
NoobCamper
Profile Joined November 2011
United States22 Posts
November 15 2011 04:21 GMT
#173
Does waxangel get paid? Do you think he'll write more articles if we paid him?

I kinda wait all week to read his articles.
For Aiur. Killer/HuK/MC/Puzzle
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 04:28:00
November 15 2011 04:22 GMT
#174
On November 15 2011 13:21 NoobCamper wrote:
Does waxangel get paid? Do you think he'll write more articles if we paid him?

I kinda wait all week to read his articles.


Wax was the editor for this article.

Probe1 wrote the Group Preview. I wrote the Power Ranking and fishuu did the art accompanying it.

Edit: Sorry Coca.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
fishuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States369 Posts
November 15 2011 04:49 GMT
#175
On November 15 2011 13:19 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 13:02 JunkkaGom wrote:
This is the best TL article I've read so far. Almost wish I had the time to translate the whole thing and put the link and translation on Korean GSL site.


You should do it, John. If you do, I'll get fishuu to draw you married to MarineKing's sister.


Wait, I didn't agree to this.

(But you should do it.)
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
November 15 2011 04:56 GMT
#176
Welp, the curse destroyed Coca it seems.
GloryOfAiur
Profile Joined October 2011
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 04:59:13
November 15 2011 04:58 GMT
#177
MC deserves that spot more than HuK does, but I guess with his recent mini-slump I can't justify it. I also believe Nestea > MMA overall.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 15 2011 05:09 GMT
#178
Dammit, Fionn. You sacrificed CoCa to the Altar of Polt.
zturchan
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada156 Posts
November 15 2011 05:11 GMT
#179
Those pieces of art of the players are adorable!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
November 15 2011 05:30 GMT
#180
holy shit, fionn curse not just strong enough to get people knocked out of tournaments, but get them BANNED too? Fuck, no predictions about me fionn, please no.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
November 15 2011 05:42 GMT
#181
Another FANTASTIC write up! Keep it up TL!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 15 2011 05:45 GMT
#182
Cool write up, can't really fault the power rankings, if I were doing one it'd be pretty similar. Was surprised that Polt didn't sneak in there somewhere though.

Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 06:09:52
November 15 2011 06:06 GMT
#183
On November 14 2011 15:50 Grettin wrote:
Good power rank. Loving the art!

oh, and just to throw it out there, Group D predictions(you heard it here first):
Gumiho
Coca
MVP
Jjakji


F*** me..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
November 15 2011 07:14 GMT
#184
fxoz starts code S this season..

look at the MKP's line
code A doesn't count
so ridiculous
Incredible Miracle
v0rtex
Profile Joined November 2011
123 Posts
November 15 2011 07:29 GMT
#185
Loving the pictures :D good write up
JD, Snute, TLO, Soulkey, $o$, HerO, Suppy, Hendralisk, MKP, Maru
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
November 15 2011 07:49 GMT
#186
Well, I'm waiting for the Ten Outside The Ten and The Honorary LegalMind nest month.

I think we can guess who will have his spot.
boyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States134 Posts
November 15 2011 08:10 GMT
#187
cant wait for tonight. great write up. thanks!
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
November 15 2011 08:32 GMT
#188
write up and graphics are both awesome! My pleasure to read this.
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
WR4TH
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
November 15 2011 08:57 GMT
#189
Loved the Article. Great work guys everything from the analysis to the Art is stellar. Keep up the good work looking forward to more.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 15 2011 09:05 GMT
#190
I think MVP's picture should have been a magikarp.
oFFoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Lithuania33 Posts
November 15 2011 10:53 GMT
#191
love those pictures :D
wut
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
November 15 2011 11:23 GMT
#192
If the trend continues ... please PM me your 3-10 power rank players (befor you release the article) so I can bet against them next time :D

Curse for the win.

Thanks for the write-up
Where is my ACE flair
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 13:30:24
November 15 2011 13:27 GMT
#193
Great pick for Nestea and Happy! lololol :p
Kira.Yami
Profile Joined April 2010
158 Posts
November 15 2011 17:12 GMT
#194
I LOVE LEENOCK's PIC!!!
Push
LA_Morello
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil143 Posts
November 15 2011 17:49 GMT
#195
Thats the reaction of MVP about his group:
LOL MONEY
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 18:34:15
November 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#196
Wow, Nestea (#3) and Happy (#5) last in their groups, Killer (#7) and Huk (#8) knocked out as well, and Coca (#6) no longer competing for who knows how long.

If MVP gets knocked out of the RO16, you could expect formal charges of witchcraft and voodoo magic, good sir.

Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 15 2011 18:38 GMT
#197
Please, please for the love of god stop predicting. You are destroying all of my favorite players =((.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 15 2011 19:23 GMT
#198
Nice predictions yo
Revolutionist fan
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
November 15 2011 20:56 GMT
#199
I'm afraid that there is going to be a trend that every week, a player who is in the top 10 will fall out shortly after.

First TOP, now Coca, what's next??
diarsenic
Profile Joined July 2011
United States385 Posts
November 15 2011 22:15 GMT
#200
Poor Oz and aLive...o wait
Penix Imba
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
November 16 2011 01:13 GMT
#201
1 for 4 on predictions so far lol. Group C predictions would probably incorrect with this current trend, but atleast group D was pretty easy.
Soowoo AD.
RyLai
Profile Joined May 2011
United States477 Posts
November 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#202
NO! INCA IN CODE A?! PLEASE NO!!!! PLEASE NOOOOO!!!!!! I don't want a repeat of when he made it to the finals. 3 Cheeses in a row in the Semis and a disgusting-to-watch beatdown 4-0 in the finals! PLEASE NO MORE INCA!
NoobCamper
Profile Joined November 2011
United States22 Posts
November 16 2011 04:36 GMT
#203
Sorry Fionn. But dude you need to get paid.... was the position this morning but you totally screwed by Liquibets. (Coca, Nestea, Huk, and Killer were all my choice)

I'm calling MVP falls to Code A because of this article.
For Aiur. Killer/HuK/MC/Puzzle
Glados
Profile Joined May 2011
12 Posts
November 16 2011 11:06 GMT
#204
Nice group C predictions, as always
Nunger
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia76 Posts
November 16 2011 11:10 GMT
#205
Just cursing everyone you bet on right now, 1 from 6. But love the fact + Show Spoiler +
puzzle made it through
, there is hope for him yet!
Dragonmaster26
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia311 Posts
November 16 2011 11:37 GMT
#206
Fionn I'm starting to hate you.
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
November 16 2011 14:00 GMT
#207
Beautiful write up.
MVP vs GuMiho: MVP pulls out all the stops with a Gheed tested and approved worker rush.
That made me lol.
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
November 16 2011 16:49 GMT
#208
Sweet artwork dudes!
Very entertaining writeup
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
Puppet_M
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland12 Posts
November 16 2011 17:01 GMT
#209
3 toss up there? :o thats something new
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 03:33:37
November 17 2011 03:05 GMT
#210
MVP survived the curse!
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
November 17 2011 03:24 GMT
#211
looks like everything is turning out to be the opposite of what you predicted lol.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
November 17 2011 04:17 GMT
#212
Love the pics, nice job Fishuu!

Great write-up overall, always like reading the power-rank!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 17 2011 05:39 GMT
#213
On November 17 2011 12:05 Azzur wrote:
MVP survived the curse!


MVP is immune to the curse!
Manex
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia156 Posts
November 22 2011 06:53 GMT
#214
I lol'd so hard when i saw the prediction was only right on MVP
My Homer is not a communist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but he is *not* a porn star!
Nymbul
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom127 Posts
December 05 2011 04:13 GMT
#215
I laughed at the NO!

Although MVP is a better player than MMA in a match-up i'd give the edge to MMA.

Every game i've seen MMA just dominates MVP in a TvT
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