On September 16 2011 17:59 bbm wrote: Wow, naniwa's interview was so depressing. Can't believe he actually let himself say those things. Not just the being protoss is suffering stuff, I mean, that's reasonable, but he's getting himself down and his attitude is just not a winners one. He says he's gonna stay in korea but he says this?
Hm, as my mindset is right now I don't feel good about my chances in anything, but if I can fix it, I think I have a reasonable chance against anyone as long as I practice hard and don't get demotivated by seeing every protoss lose every game in every tournament around me.
That's just so depressing and self-deprecating.
Well you have to take into account that most swedish people comes from a social cultural background where Jantes Law is buried deep. But I do not think it translates to a weak mindset, infact I think it strengthens people.
On September 16 2011 17:59 bbm wrote: Wow, naniwa's interview was so depressing. Can't believe he actually let himself say those things. Not just the being protoss is suffering stuff, I mean, that's reasonable, but he's getting himself down and his attitude is just not a winners one. He says he's gonna stay in korea but he says this?
Hm, as my mindset is right now I don't feel good about my chances in anything, but if I can fix it, I think I have a reasonable chance against anyone as long as I practice hard and don't get demotivated by seeing every protoss lose every game in every tournament around me.
That's just so depressing and self-deprecating.
Well you have to take into account that most swedish people comes from a social cultural background where Jantes Law is buried deep. But I do not think it translates to a weak mindset, infact I think it strengthens people.
I agree with that it strengthens people. Jantes law is always portraited as a bad thing but I wouldn't agree.
I wonder why Nani has stuck with Protoss anyway. I mean, all races have had their up and downs so I'm not taking that into account. However, in my eyes two of Nani's greatest strengths were always his micro and timings, and I feel as a Terran he could have capitalized more on those.
Either way, wish him the best, and he's got my sympathies. It must be hard to come form the absolute top of the foreign scene, and then go to Korea and realize you've been playing a different game all along.
On September 16 2011 17:59 bbm wrote: Wow, naniwa's interview was so depressing. Can't believe he actually let himself say those things. Not just the being protoss is suffering stuff, I mean, that's reasonable, but he's getting himself down and his attitude is just not a winners one. He says he's gonna stay in korea but he says this?
Hm, as my mindset is right now I don't feel good about my chances in anything, but if I can fix it, I think I have a reasonable chance against anyone as long as I practice hard and don't get demotivated by seeing every protoss lose every game in every tournament around me.
That's just so depressing and self-deprecating.
Well you have to take into account that most swedish people comes from a social cultural background where Jantes Law is buried deep. But I do not think it translates to a weak mindset, infact I think it strengthens people.
I agree with that it strengthens people. Jantes law is always portraited as a bad thing but I wouldn't agree.
"The term refers to a mentality which refuses to acknowledge individual effort and places all emphasis on the collective, while punishing those who stand out as achievers. "Don't think you are good at anything." "Don't think anyone cares about you."
Sounds strengthening to me. :/. I actually wasn't aware that many people of that background hold this mindset, unfortunate imo.
On September 16 2011 17:59 bbm wrote: Wow, naniwa's interview was so depressing. Can't believe he actually let himself say those things. Not just the being protoss is suffering stuff, I mean, that's reasonable, but he's getting himself down and his attitude is just not a winners one. He says he's gonna stay in korea but he says this?
Hm, as my mindset is right now I don't feel good about my chances in anything, but if I can fix it, I think I have a reasonable chance against anyone as long as I practice hard and don't get demotivated by seeing every protoss lose every game in every tournament around me.
That's just so depressing and self-deprecating.
Well you have to take into account that most swedish people comes from a social cultural background where Jantes Law is buried deep. But I do not think it translates to a weak mindset, infact I think it strengthens people.
I agree with that it strengthens people. Jantes law is always portraited as a bad thing but I wouldn't agree.
"The term refers to a mentality which refuses to acknowledge individual effort and places all emphasis on the collective, while punishing those who stand out as achievers. "Don't think you are good at anything." "Don't think anyone cares about you."
Sounds strengthening to me. :/. I actually wasn't aware that many people of that background hold this mindset, unfortunate imo.
Imoho I think it's a healthy mindset. While people learn just how insignificant they are as individuals, they also learn how to cope with it. They'll never put themselves above another, and know not to worry about pointless things. Sounds perfect to me.
On September 16 2011 17:59 bbm wrote: Wow, naniwa's interview was so depressing. Can't believe he actually let himself say those things. Not just the being protoss is suffering stuff, I mean, that's reasonable, but he's getting himself down and his attitude is just not a winners one. He says he's gonna stay in korea but he says this?
Hm, as my mindset is right now I don't feel good about my chances in anything, but if I can fix it, I think I have a reasonable chance against anyone as long as I practice hard and don't get demotivated by seeing every protoss lose every game in every tournament around me.
That's just so depressing and self-deprecating.
Well you have to take into account that most swedish people comes from a social cultural background where Jantes Law is buried deep. But I do not think it translates to a weak mindset, infact I think it strengthens people.
Surely it translates to a lack of interest in striving to excel above your peers though? Does it not strip competition in exchange for equality and meekness. While I think this is a perfectly fine approach for a township or whatever to approach, I just can't see this translating well into a pro-gaming environment.
clearly it's fine though given sweden's pretty excellent output of gamers so whatever i guess i'm wrong D:
edit: I had a think about it, and actually, now that I realise that you also judge everyone else by these criteria as well as be judged by others, I don't think it's as bad as it first appears (although i'm still not bowled over by it, especially since, for example, naniwa has a massive fanbase telling him that no, he IS a somebody). If you can look at someone very self-confident like MC or whoever and honestly think to yourself "you aren't special or noteworthy", then yeah that's always pretty good.
So what are the major reasons that Protoss is underpowered in Korea right now?
I would have to write a essay about that and I don't feel like it. But mainly the lack of scouting available early game makes protoss have to guess way too much for them to be able to consistently win without taking insane risks.
That sounds familiar. That's an issue every race has to deal with. Zerg has been dealing with it and been pointing it out since release, Terran have troubles too to a certain extent. So yeah, completely agree with naniwa, but it's not limited to the protoss race at all.
On September 16 2011 17:59 bbm wrote: Wow, naniwa's interview was so depressing. Can't believe he actually let himself say those things. Not just the being protoss is suffering stuff, I mean, that's reasonable, but he's getting himself down and his attitude is just not a winners one. He says he's gonna stay in korea but he says this?
Hm, as my mindset is right now I don't feel good about my chances in anything, but if I can fix it, I think I have a reasonable chance against anyone as long as I practice hard and don't get demotivated by seeing every protoss lose every game in every tournament around me.
That's just so depressing and self-deprecating.
Well you have to take into account that most swedish people comes from a social cultural background where Jantes Law is buried deep. But I do not think it translates to a weak mindset, infact I think it strengthens people.
I agree with that it strengthens people. Jantes law is always portraited as a bad thing but I wouldn't agree.
"The term refers to a mentality which refuses to acknowledge individual effort and places all emphasis on the collective, while punishing those who stand out as achievers. "Don't think you are good at anything." "Don't think anyone cares about you."
Sounds strengthening to me. :/. I actually wasn't aware that many people of that background hold this mindset, unfortunate imo.
Imoho I think it's a healthy mindset. While people learn just how insignificant they are as individuals, they also learn how to cope with it. They'll never put themselves above another, and know not to worry about pointless things. Sounds perfect to me.
If you're gonna take a big picture look at it, you could just as easily say humanity is completely insignificant too. Doesn't mean your personal accomplishments are worthless and should be completely discouraged, being completely defined by a giant collective. Horrible and harmful mindset IMO. Off topic though so PM me if you have a response.
Spectacular write-up, thanks! Dreamhack Valencia will be awesome indeed, and I really hope that some of those predictions regarding Korean domination will not come into effect
Great content, def a tournament I won't miss. Aftonbladet is trying to sell memberships with their HD feed and exclusive interviews and stuff, so I will probably stick to the main english feed.
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And worth mentioning is probably the best hype video ever, amazing graphics!
And I thought I couldn't respect Naniwa even more, even if his attitude isn't exactly the most confident one it's still realistic and I really like that. If you blind yourself with arrogance you're going down sooner or later.
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