• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:06
CET 00:06
KST 08:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC29[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Greetings.. Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion Recommended BW Settings for Mouse and Video Starcraft:Brood War Discord Servers [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12907 users

Pony Tales #2 - Page 8

Forum Index > News
150 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 All
Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
December 26 2010 14:49 GMT
#141
Awesome stuff!

However, I have a few words regarding the ESports article. While I appreciate the effort that went into it, I personally believe it has the worng approach to the whole issue. As a marketer, I found myself disagreeing with quite a few statements in there, both regarding SC2 and "traditional" sports.
In a nutshell, the way I would have gone about it would have been by focusing on the cultural acceptance and the role played by Blizzard. Once again, I dont mean to diss it, unfotunately to me it just reads as something written without a proper knowledge of marketing practices.
Sedit qui timuit ne non succederet
Sephiros
Profile Joined September 2010
United States24 Posts
December 26 2010 15:42 GMT
#142
Entertaining, but definitely in need of an editor!
"Life is like riding a bicycle. You must keep moving to retain balance."
Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
December 26 2010 19:35 GMT
#143
Great episode..these are so professional and a great read in my mornings. Thanks again TL!
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
December 26 2010 20:56 GMT
#144
awesome stuff, some suggestion for improvements though, u guys should think about adding a column about the history of Team Liquid and its members and fun history fact about SC:BW in the past, and maybe in the form of small tid-bits of information here and there over a couple of pages.

impressive stuff keep it up!

wow at the TL banning report thread, like almost every offenders joined 2009 onwards lol...
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 27 2010 00:28 GMT
#145
very very nice! im gonna be expecting this every month! :D
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
RonaldRayGun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States200 Posts
December 27 2010 03:24 GMT
#146
Quite fdun and funny.
"Machine is making more zerglings. How does IdrA combat MORE zerglings? In Korea they don't make MORE Zerglings! You cheesy fucking newbie! - InControl comentating MAchine vs IdrA
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2763 Posts
December 28 2010 17:00 GMT
#147
I'm not gonna read this here. I'm gonna print it out nicely.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
December 28 2010 23:00 GMT
#148
Haha I felt cool reading about the TL mafia forum.
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
December 30 2010 00:17 GMT
#149
On December 26 2010 23:49 Hatsu wrote:
Awesome stuff!

However, I have a few words regarding the ESports article. While I appreciate the effort that went into it, I personally believe it has the worng approach to the whole issue. As a marketer, I found myself disagreeing with quite a few statements in there, both regarding SC2 and "traditional" sports.
In a nutshell, the way I would have gone about it would have been by focusing on the cultural acceptance and the role played by Blizzard. Once again, I dont mean to diss it, unfotunately to me it just reads as something written without a proper knowledge of marketing practices.


Could you expand on what it is you actually mean?
Taek Bang
Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
December 30 2010 14:25 GMT
#150
On December 30 2010 09:17 gk_ender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 23:49 Hatsu wrote:
Awesome stuff!

However, I have a few words regarding the ESports article. While I appreciate the effort that went into it, I personally believe it has the worng approach to the whole issue. As a marketer, I found myself disagreeing with quite a few statements in there, both regarding SC2 and "traditional" sports.
In a nutshell, the way I would have gone about it would have been by focusing on the cultural acceptance and the role played by Blizzard. Once again, I dont mean to diss it, unfotunately to me it just reads as something written without a proper knowledge of marketing practices.


Could you expand on what it is you actually mean?


It would take an essay to do that and i really dont have the time to write exetensively right now (and for at least a couple of weeks unfortunately) but the article feels written from a community perspective ("We failed to achieve sufficient success for BW to be financially interesting") rather then from a sponsor PoV, so you get a skewed perspective where you think that we need to "grow" SC2 to make it more interesting for sponsors. In reality, in marketing terms what needs to happen is a change in culture and attitude towards SC2 and gaming, which cannot possibly be achieved by the community but rather by someone with actual marketing power such as Blizzard. Which you can see they re already trying to do (the SC2 ads on Korean Air planes being a prime example).
To make it clearer: you want people in the street to look at SC2 and think of it as they think of, say, football or Madonna or Levi's, as something perfectly normal and acceptable. That way you remove the biggest obstacles to it becoming mainstream and therefore you attract, for example, non-hardware sponsors.
I also disagree that SC2 needs teams. It does not, all it needs is iconic figures that people can get attached to. You can see that in a myriad of sports (tennis, golf, even formula1 or MotoGP to a certain extent for some people).
Summing up, the "We need to show Starcraft to people and let them know ANYONE can play and enjoy it. I don’t want Starcraft to be a game for the elite ; I want it to be a sport, for the people." is basically not relevant imho. I think it should be a rather less exciting and more pragmatic "We need to hope Blizzard is successfull in making SC2 acceptable enough to make it part of mainstream culture more than it already is".

I do realize this explanation is not comprehensive and, trust me, I could write thousands on words on this subject but I cannot right now. Maybe some time next year I actually will though, but it would be a marketing paper so I am not sure how intelligible it would be to the average TL user.
Sedit qui timuit ne non succederet
Magnethios
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada20 Posts
December 31 2010 08:46 GMT
#151
Nice read, was expecting more from the eSports article.
Prev 1 6 7 8 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
05:00
S23 - Ro16 Group A
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
ZZZero.O286
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 484
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 286
soO 30
Dota 2
420jenkins827
LuMiX1
League of Legends
gofns10060
JimRising 982
Counter-Strike
zeus1155
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor227
Other Games
summit1g5582
tarik_tv4886
Grubby2541
mouzStarbuck310
Liquid`Hasu240
XaKoH 212
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2150
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 41
• musti20045 27
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos5008
Other Games
• imaqtpie717
• Shiphtur309
• tFFMrPink 10
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 55m
WardiTV Invitational
12h 55m
IPSL
17h 55m
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
20h 55m
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
1d 10h
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
1d 12h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
GSL
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-13
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Proleague 2026-11-14
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.