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Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
December 26 2010 14:49 GMT
#141
Awesome stuff!

However, I have a few words regarding the ESports article. While I appreciate the effort that went into it, I personally believe it has the worng approach to the whole issue. As a marketer, I found myself disagreeing with quite a few statements in there, both regarding SC2 and "traditional" sports.
In a nutshell, the way I would have gone about it would have been by focusing on the cultural acceptance and the role played by Blizzard. Once again, I dont mean to diss it, unfotunately to me it just reads as something written without a proper knowledge of marketing practices.
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Sephiros
Profile Joined September 2010
United States24 Posts
December 26 2010 15:42 GMT
#142
Entertaining, but definitely in need of an editor!
"Life is like riding a bicycle. You must keep moving to retain balance."
Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
December 26 2010 19:35 GMT
#143
Great episode..these are so professional and a great read in my mornings. Thanks again TL!
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
December 26 2010 20:56 GMT
#144
awesome stuff, some suggestion for improvements though, u guys should think about adding a column about the history of Team Liquid and its members and fun history fact about SC:BW in the past, and maybe in the form of small tid-bits of information here and there over a couple of pages.

impressive stuff keep it up!

wow at the TL banning report thread, like almost every offenders joined 2009 onwards lol...
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 27 2010 00:28 GMT
#145
very very nice! im gonna be expecting this every month! :D
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RonaldRayGun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States200 Posts
December 27 2010 03:24 GMT
#146
Quite fdun and funny.
"Machine is making more zerglings. How does IdrA combat MORE zerglings? In Korea they don't make MORE Zerglings! You cheesy fucking newbie! - InControl comentating MAchine vs IdrA
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2757 Posts
December 28 2010 17:00 GMT
#147
I'm not gonna read this here. I'm gonna print it out nicely.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
December 28 2010 23:00 GMT
#148
Haha I felt cool reading about the TL mafia forum.
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
December 30 2010 00:17 GMT
#149
On December 26 2010 23:49 Hatsu wrote:
Awesome stuff!

However, I have a few words regarding the ESports article. While I appreciate the effort that went into it, I personally believe it has the worng approach to the whole issue. As a marketer, I found myself disagreeing with quite a few statements in there, both regarding SC2 and "traditional" sports.
In a nutshell, the way I would have gone about it would have been by focusing on the cultural acceptance and the role played by Blizzard. Once again, I dont mean to diss it, unfotunately to me it just reads as something written without a proper knowledge of marketing practices.


Could you expand on what it is you actually mean?
Taek Bang
Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
December 30 2010 14:25 GMT
#150
On December 30 2010 09:17 gk_ender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 23:49 Hatsu wrote:
Awesome stuff!

However, I have a few words regarding the ESports article. While I appreciate the effort that went into it, I personally believe it has the worng approach to the whole issue. As a marketer, I found myself disagreeing with quite a few statements in there, both regarding SC2 and "traditional" sports.
In a nutshell, the way I would have gone about it would have been by focusing on the cultural acceptance and the role played by Blizzard. Once again, I dont mean to diss it, unfotunately to me it just reads as something written without a proper knowledge of marketing practices.


Could you expand on what it is you actually mean?


It would take an essay to do that and i really dont have the time to write exetensively right now (and for at least a couple of weeks unfortunately) but the article feels written from a community perspective ("We failed to achieve sufficient success for BW to be financially interesting") rather then from a sponsor PoV, so you get a skewed perspective where you think that we need to "grow" SC2 to make it more interesting for sponsors. In reality, in marketing terms what needs to happen is a change in culture and attitude towards SC2 and gaming, which cannot possibly be achieved by the community but rather by someone with actual marketing power such as Blizzard. Which you can see they re already trying to do (the SC2 ads on Korean Air planes being a prime example).
To make it clearer: you want people in the street to look at SC2 and think of it as they think of, say, football or Madonna or Levi's, as something perfectly normal and acceptable. That way you remove the biggest obstacles to it becoming mainstream and therefore you attract, for example, non-hardware sponsors.
I also disagree that SC2 needs teams. It does not, all it needs is iconic figures that people can get attached to. You can see that in a myriad of sports (tennis, golf, even formula1 or MotoGP to a certain extent for some people).
Summing up, the "We need to show Starcraft to people and let them know ANYONE can play and enjoy it. I don’t want Starcraft to be a game for the elite ; I want it to be a sport, for the people." is basically not relevant imho. I think it should be a rather less exciting and more pragmatic "We need to hope Blizzard is successfull in making SC2 acceptable enough to make it part of mainstream culture more than it already is".

I do realize this explanation is not comprehensive and, trust me, I could write thousands on words on this subject but I cannot right now. Maybe some time next year I actually will though, but it would be a marketing paper so I am not sure how intelligible it would be to the average TL user.
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Magnethios
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada20 Posts
December 31 2010 08:46 GMT
#151
Nice read, was expecting more from the eSports article.
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