[PL] Upheaval - Page 4

On December 19 2010 17:30 johanngrunt wrote:
I don't follow BW much, but one line in the OP stood out as strange to me.

" Considering Terran is easily the strongest race, they even have Skyhigh who is pretty much the best TvT player who has ever existed."

I thought BW was completely balanced? This just seems strange to me, and I hope someone can explain without calling me a noob, which I am, but I want to learn.

You have Snow as B+ but Pure as only B-? This seems completely illogical to me seeing as Pure's results have been alot better than Snow's, not just recently, but for a few PL seasons now. I see your point about Pure's slight inconsistencies, but his game sense and decision making are much above Snow's in all matchups, barring PvT. You could argue that Snow is much more inconsistent; outside of PvT I can't recall one standout victory for him or a game where I could say he completely dominated, whereas I can name many for Pure - again, in all matchups.

Horang2 is rated B and Movie only a C? Come on dude, you have got to be kidding me. An OSL finalist is not a bad player - inconsistent perhaps, but the fundamental skills, decision making, game sense etc are all there. He is just lacking confidence. Contrast this to Horang2 who, in my opinion, is just plain awful in comparison, and to be honest, even more inconsistent. I'm genuinely staggered you can rate him as B. I don't think I've ever even seen him win a PL game yet this season, correct me if I'm wrong?

I actually concur with the ratings, I think they are very fair. My only criticsm would be having Baby at only a B+ when you have Leta at A-. There is just no way on this earth Leta is better than Baby - he just isn't, its a fact, and I know the majority of people will agree with me. As you even rightly mentioned, Leta has been in a slump and really making some horrible plays in some matches that he should have been winning, yet despite this he is still A-? Contrast this with Baby who has looked very comfortable - certainly not the complete package yet by any means, but he is definitely in the process of upping his game and I'm sure he will eventually join the elite Terran players' club. Hes playing with alot of confidence, and his unpredictability, ironically now, makes him even stronger in my book. He is not afraid to do some crazy builds, and to be honest, more often than not he pulls them off - I think he still isn't getting enough credit.

Think you have horrendously overrated RorO putting him at B+ and horrendously underrated HogiL at C+. For me, I'd put them both at B-/B. Whilst RorO is quite a consistent player and is a tough match for any progamer these days, I think he plays too safe and doesn't have that creative spark to push him on top be a very high level Zerg. He is the average Joe of all matchups, solid in all, but not remarkable in one. HogiL for me is the opposite. I honestly rate his ZvP as being one of the best around, however I'm not as convinced in his ZvT, and certainly not his ZvZ. On reflection I'd put them as about the same, mayb RorO might be slightly better, but I just don't find his play that remarkable to justify a B+ rating, especially looking at the quality Terrand Protoss players you have rated as just B+.

Baby has the best multitasking of any progamer

On December 22 2010 10:38 L_Master wrote:


Really? Thats a bold statement, considering you have people like JD, Bisu and Flash. I'm just suprised cause I've never heard Baby mentioned as having phenomenal multitasking abilities.

Any games/statistics that really show of his capabilities in this area?