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Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
August 09 2010 18:33 GMT
#41
On August 10 2010 03:23 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 03:11 Doughboy wrote:
In terms of Jaedong winning over Hydra with a BO advantage (12 pool vs 9 pool respectively), didn't the exact same thing happen to ZerO in GSM oz vs stars, and ZerO won?..I could be wrong on what build ZerO used, but I thought he used a 9 pool. I didn't watch Jaedong vs Hydra so maybe JD didn't FE or something in that game like he did against ZerO. Somebody correct the poor noob that is me please :<

Uh, yes. I should have specified 12 pool gas as opposed to 12 pool expand. One of those builds could conceivably die to a 9 pool, and the other could not.

Back when Jaedong was losing ZvZs left and right during a certain period last year (he lost to Effort in a Bo3, and then to Calm in a Bo5 about a month later) he kept 12 pool expanding when it wasn't safe against 9 pools. I hope he isn't going to start making that mistake again.


Ah thanks for the clarification that makes more sense.
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
0rganism
Profile Joined June 2010
United States7 Posts
August 09 2010 18:35 GMT
#42
Not saying it would have altered the outcome, but I sure would have liked to see Zero throw a couple scourge at Flash's cc flying in at the 2 and then infest it right as it landed - maybe broodling a tank on the way in? C'mon Zero - show us some of that sweet queen love! If he'd done that, maybe we'd be admiring "that awesome/hilarious/futile/defiant/spirited queen maneuver", instead of forgetting a turret-heavy mech grinder.

That said, Leta, Sea, and Flash all seem to be playing very solidly, and I've enjoyed all their games so far. Especially Leta and his wraiths - his takedown of Effort was flawless, as far as I could tell. Just one nice move after another, proceeding to an inevitable outcome. Could all 3 end up in the semis? Hmm, not sure I want to see that much TvT...
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damon2400
Profile Joined April 2009
United States172 Posts
August 09 2010 18:51 GMT
#43
I love you for putting vod links in the original post, thanks.
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 09 2010 19:02 GMT
#44
So bisu really did break Kwarks heart didnt he?
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42658 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 20:30:57
August 09 2010 20:15 GMT
#45
On August 09 2010 17:18 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 17:15 Heimatloser wrote:

Player Ratings
Flash: 6/10
Flash had it very easy, since his opponent refused to defend. In an interview, Flash mentioned he had never expected the game to end outright with the rush, and he just took the gift as it came. Still, it was perfect execution in a very advantageous situation.

so you get 6 of 10 for perfect execution these days?
or does it have to anything with flash being flash?

Kwark hates Flash, everyone knows that. There's a 6/10 ceiling on any games Flash play.

I did not write that particular report. Quit slandering me. Something I did write was.
On July 28 2010 03:56 Waxangel wrote:
Flash, bonjwa. Enough said.

On August 10 2010 04:02 night terrors wrote:
So bisu really did break Kwarks heart didnt he?

Every PvT game twists the knife further.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 09 2010 20:52 GMT
#46
I think that ZerO's lategame macro is even better than Jaedong's or Effort's but that's just me.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 21:16:19
August 09 2010 21:16 GMT
#47
On August 10 2010 03:23 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 03:11 Doughboy wrote:
In terms of Jaedong winning over Hydra with a BO advantage (12 pool vs 9 pool respectively), didn't the exact same thing happen to ZerO in GSM oz vs stars, and ZerO won?..I could be wrong on what build ZerO used, but I thought he used a 9 pool. I didn't watch Jaedong vs Hydra so maybe JD didn't FE or something in that game like he did against ZerO. Somebody correct the poor noob that is me please :<

Uh, yes. I should have specified 12 pool gas as opposed to 12 pool expand. One of those builds could conceivably die to a 9 pool, and the other could not.

...Every 12pool expand build zvz gets pool and gas before expanding.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
August 09 2010 21:31 GMT
#48
Bisu vs effort getting close! Come on rev, show your stuff
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
August 09 2010 21:42 GMT
#49
really nice write-up. bisu vs effort is the game of the last 2 days imho. although flash vs hiya and leta vs action could turn out very well too.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 09 2010 22:35 GMT
#50
On August 10 2010 05:15 KwarK wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 04:02 night terrors wrote:
So bisu really did break Kwarks heart didnt he?

Every PvT game twists the knife further.


I understand, its sad to know that the guy has such a high skill ceiling and has yet to find a mental frame to support it.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
August 09 2010 23:15 GMT
#51
On August 10 2010 05:15 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 17:18 motbob wrote:
On August 09 2010 17:15 Heimatloser wrote:

Player Ratings
Flash: 6/10
Flash had it very easy, since his opponent refused to defend. In an interview, Flash mentioned he had never expected the game to end outright with the rush, and he just took the gift as it came. Still, it was perfect execution in a very advantageous situation.

so you get 6 of 10 for perfect execution these days?
or does it have to anything with flash being flash?

Kwark hates Flash, everyone knows that. There's a 6/10 ceiling on any games Flash play.

I did not write that particular report. Quit slandering me. Something I did write was.
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 03:56 Waxangel wrote:
Flash, bonjwa. Enough said.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 04:02 night terrors wrote:
So bisu really did break Kwarks heart didnt he?

Every PvT game twists the knife further.


man, you should edit your quotes so it quotes the correct writer. I'd never call flash bonjwa -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 23:58:13
August 09 2010 23:58 GMT
#52
On August 10 2010 05:15 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 17:18 motbob wrote:
On August 09 2010 17:15 Heimatloser wrote:

Player Ratings
Flash: 6/10
Flash had it very easy, since his opponent refused to defend. In an interview, Flash mentioned he had never expected the game to end outright with the rush, and he just took the gift as it came. Still, it was perfect execution in a very advantageous situation.

so you get 6 of 10 for perfect execution these days?
or does it have to anything with flash being flash?

Kwark hates Flash, everyone knows that. There's a 6/10 ceiling on any games Flash play.

I did not write that particular report. Quit slandering me. Something I did write was.
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 03:56 Waxangel wrote:
Flash, bonjwa. Enough said.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 04:02 night terrors wrote:
So bisu really did break Kwarks heart didnt he?

Every PvT game twists the knife further.


Maybe if Bisu transfers his high temp micro in PvZ to his PvT he'll do better :O
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 10 2010 00:12 GMT
#53
I died after I watched Zero vs Flash, it was so painful. I never thought you can turtle that hard.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
August 10 2010 00:24 GMT
#54
this kind of write-up is always a sight for sore eyes coming home late.
And to think some people still dont know TL...
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 04:25:02
August 10 2010 04:24 GMT
#55
On August 10 2010 06:16 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 03:23 motbob wrote:
On August 10 2010 03:11 Doughboy wrote:
In terms of Jaedong winning over Hydra with a BO advantage (12 pool vs 9 pool respectively), didn't the exact same thing happen to ZerO in GSM oz vs stars, and ZerO won?..I could be wrong on what build ZerO used, but I thought he used a 9 pool. I didn't watch Jaedong vs Hydra so maybe JD didn't FE or something in that game like he did against ZerO. Somebody correct the poor noob that is me please :<

Uh, yes. I should have specified 12 pool gas as opposed to 12 pool expand. One of those builds could conceivably die to a 9 pool, and the other could not.

...Every 12pool expand build zvz gets pool and gas before expanding.


wtf, dude, the build is 12 pool 11 gas 11/10 hatch... -> (Wiki)12 Pool (vs. Zerg)

I was replyin to motbob....
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 10 2010 06:55 GMT
#56
On August 10 2010 13:24 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:16 Harem wrote:
On August 10 2010 03:23 motbob wrote:
On August 10 2010 03:11 Doughboy wrote:
In terms of Jaedong winning over Hydra with a BO advantage (12 pool vs 9 pool respectively), didn't the exact same thing happen to ZerO in GSM oz vs stars, and ZerO won?..I could be wrong on what build ZerO used, but I thought he used a 9 pool. I didn't watch Jaedong vs Hydra so maybe JD didn't FE or something in that game like he did against ZerO. Somebody correct the poor noob that is me please :<

Uh, yes. I should have specified 12 pool gas as opposed to 12 pool expand. One of those builds could conceivably die to a 9 pool, and the other could not.

...Every 12pool expand build zvz gets pool and gas before expanding.


wtf, dude, the build is 12 pool 11 gas 11/10 hatch... -> (Wiki)12 Pool (vs. Zerg)

I was replyin to motbob....

Difference is the rush distances.
Jaedong
everstarleague
Profile Joined December 2009
China89 Posts
August 10 2010 08:06 GMT
#57
Brood war is the best pc game in today and history, everyone could know it, definitely!!

I object sc2 from the day it is appear to now. But I forget one thing--everything will die ,whatever it is. So, however brilliant sc1 is, there must be one day it is die. Althouge it was murdered by some selfish thing, it may be dying one day.

In my opinion, sc2 is just the game that is as well as c&c3,even less better than it. So, surrounded by many thing and words of sc2, I no longer can say something, I bear it! I want to a try, just a try, a lot of skirmishs of sc2, just because of sc1, just like c&c3.

After 3 day's downloading, some version of sc2 is in the harddisk. But many problem emerge, though I had thought that playing sc2 is difficult. Memory is less than 2g, windows version problem, most of all, the sc2 version could not normally run, even it is run, it could not play skirmishs with computer. Maybe the pirate patch is not work, or something else wrong. Then after a whole day debugging, I have deleted the sc2 version, it is a massive hull. In this period, a drone has creeped to earth from char. And the legitimate broodwar which cost me about 5 dollors has played about ten years, occasionally when I open a 1998's computer, the broodwar is still there, it plays well ,fluently. Broodwar is especially pretty now.

Starleague is still there, its future is unknown, but it is immortal in many minds.
Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
August 10 2010 11:55 GMT
#58
GO GO HiYA!!! :D i really hope he qualifies ^____^
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 10 2010 12:55 GMT
#59
On August 10 2010 17:06 everstarleague wrote:
Brood war is the best pc game in today and history, everyone could know it, definitely!!

I object sc2 from the day it is appear to now. But I forget one thing--everything will die ,whatever it is. So, however brilliant sc1 is, there must be one day it is die. Althouge it was murdered by some selfish thing, it may be dying one day.

In my opinion, sc2 is just the game that is as well as c&c3,even less better than it. So, surrounded by many thing and words of sc2, I no longer can say something, I bear it! I want to a try, just a try, a lot of skirmishs of sc2, just because of sc1, just like c&c3.

After 3 day's downloading, some version of sc2 is in the harddisk. But many problem emerge, though I had thought that playing sc2 is difficult. Memory is less than 2g, windows version problem, most of all, the sc2 version could not normally run, even it is run, it could not play skirmishs with computer. Maybe the pirate patch is not work, or something else wrong. Then after a whole day debugging, I have deleted the sc2 version, it is a massive hull. In this period, a drone has creeped to earth from char. And the legitimate broodwar which cost me about 5 dollors has played about ten years, occasionally when I open a 1998's computer, the broodwar is still there, it plays well ,fluently. Broodwar is especially pretty now.

Starleague is still there, its future is unknown, but it is immortal in many minds.

I think you're lost.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
August 10 2010 17:19 GMT
#60
It's almost like you don't like Pure... I wonder why.
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