EPTIf you put in the hard work you could have won more Starleagues and helped KT win the PL. Instead you were lazy and threw matches.
As much as I am saddened, I hope you get a second chance someday. Even if it's unlikely. Savior on the other hand...
Match-Fixing Scandal - Conclusion - Page 51
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Vasoline73
United States8203 Posts
If you put in the hard work you could have won more Starleagues and helped KT win the PL. Instead you were lazy and threw matches. As much as I am saddened, I hope you get a second chance someday. Even if it's unlikely. Savior on the other hand... | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:17 Wala.Revolution wrote: http://www2.airforce.mil.kr:7778/ace/esboard/Post.do?op=read&postid=2945&page=1&board=freeboard&cpage=1 ACE Coach's official apology. Apologizes that someone in ACE has been linked to the scandals... nothing 'certain' about future of ACE has been set (apparently rumors of disbanding?). I, and the team would do our best for the remainder of the games... even if the next is the last. Thanks for that. I doubt any team will actually disband, though obviously if that were the case, Hite is the most likely (having lost Justin, yarnc, go.go and type-b). Darkelf will be missed. | ||
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tomfle
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On May 21 2010 13:15 Soviet_Exodus wrote: This is the first scandal on this scale in the world of starcraft esports. People won't just be able to forget that savior was at the heart of this. Do you honestly believe that when you hear "Savior" you'll remember all his great games and totally forget the part he played in this? Sorry if I didn't make my point clear. I mean, the scandal, together with Savior himself (his greatness), will both be forgotten. Because this scandal, people in SC would feel uncomfortable to just think of this person, and thus he will be forgotten too. Somewhat like a girl I liked a lot cheated me, and then I simply don't want to remember the cheating, neither the girl herself. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:53 tomfle wrote: Sorry if I didn't make my point clear. I mean, the scandal, together with Savior himself (his greatness), will both be forgotten. Because this scandal, people in SC would feel uncomfortable to just think of this person, and thus he will be forgotten too. Somewhat like a girl I liked a lot cheated me, and then I simply don't want to remember the cheating, neither the girl herself. haha I misunderstood. Regardless I don't think he will be entirely forgotten, but remembered for how far you can fall | ||
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Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1894 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On May 21 2010 14:00 Wala.Revolution wrote: I read somewhere that there were rumors of Stars disbanding. Why would they? I know the coach stated that no such action would occur but why? Well, if you want a possible reason, if the sponsor doesn't want to be associated with this sort of scandal, they could pull their funding. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On May 21 2010 15:20 Hot_Bid wrote: Well, if you want a possible reason, if the sponsor doesn't want to be associated with this sort of scandal, they could pull their funding. Woongjin hasn't had anybody implicated though. Though I guess there are 2 more that haven't been named yet (as far as I know), so anything is possible. CJ - Savior Hite - go.go, Yarnc, Type-b, Justin Ace - Darkelf (?) KT - Luxury STX - Hwasin eSTRO - Upmagic | ||
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Hot_Bid
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moopie
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Mylin
Sweden177 Posts
I found this interview with Savior quite interesting (some talk about financial issues etc). | ||
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ndralcasid
United States524 Posts
Him not playing for a quite a bit of Proleague matches without playing was very weird, so I really hope that wasn't correlated to this. | ||
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firedodo
China116 Posts
On May 21 2010 16:26 ndralcasid wrote: Speaking of Stars, now that I think about it, I'm a little scared for Kwanro. Him not playing for a quite a bit of Proleague matches without playing was very weird, so I really hope that wasn't correlated to this. I would assume he's fine if I see him appear in the Proleague squad, even if he's not sent out. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On May 21 2010 16:26 ndralcasid wrote: Speaking of Stars, now that I think about it, I'm a little scared for Kwanro. Him not playing for a quite a bit of Proleague matches without playing was very weird, so I really hope that wasn't correlated to this. Kwanro is fine, he's been on the bench for all their matches so it's unlikely that he's under investigation given that all those involved in the match-fixing have been removed from the benches of their respective teams. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
I read from page 1 Savior and Luxury retired. One is being forced by Kespa, the other is contract terminate. Maybe Luxury can go another team.. If he is involved, I hope Hwasin can still carry on Progaming.. Ah, the only matches I've watched Hwasin play is individual league this season...  | ||
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0kz
Italy1118 Posts
On May 21 2010 18:17 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Is Hwasin confirmed? I read from page 1 Savior and Luxury retired. One is being forced by Kespa, the other is contract terminate. Maybe Luxury can go another team.. If he is involved, I hope Hwasin can still carry on Progaming.. Ah, the only matches I've watched Hwasin play is individual league this season... On May 21 2010 07:51 Sawajiri wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hwasin's apology: 죄 송합니다 I'm sorry. 죄송합니다. I'm sorry. 정말 죄송합니다. e스포츠 관계자분들과 구단분들, 그리고 무엇보다 우리 팀 동료들과 저를 지켜봐주시고 믿어주신 팬 여러분께 진심으로 머리숙여 죄송합니다. I'm really sorry. I apologize sincerely to everyone involved with and working in e-sports, and especially to my team mates and all my fans who've been watching me and believing in me. 감히 죄송하다는 말씀 드릴 자격도 없지만.. 가만히 있는 것은 더욱 도리가 아닌 것 같아, 이렇게 부끄러운 사죄의 글을 올립니다. I know I don't even have the right to apologize... I'm uploading this apology with the thought that keeping silent on the matter would be even worse. 어린 나이도 아니고, 한 순간의 실수였다고 용서를 빌 수 있는 일이 아니라는 거.. 알고 있습니다. 모두 한 순간의 유혹을 뿌리치지 못한 저의 잘못입니다. 정말 진심으로 후회하고 있습니다. At my age, I can't claim it was a moment's mistake and hope for forgiveness... I know that. It's my fault for not being able to resist the temptation of the moment. I'm regretting it from the bottom of my heart. 지난 7년간 수많은 분들이 저를 응원하고 아껴주신 것 알고 있는데.. 덕분에 겨우 지금까지 올 수 있었는데… 정말 제가 왜 그랬는지.. 제가 정말 어리석었습니다. I know that for the last 7 years, hundreds of people have been loving me and cheering for me... Thanks to them, I made it (as a progamer) until now.... why did I do this... I was so immature. 제 자신이 용서가 안 되는데, 이런 글 몇자로 여러분의 용서를 바랄 수도 없고, 제 죄를 덜 수도 없다는 걸 알지만… 그래도 진심으로 죄송하단 말씀 드립니다. I know that it's unforgiveable, that I can't expect to earn your forgiveness through a few letters, that it doesn't make my sin any better... But still. I will tell you how deeply sorry I am. 그 어떤 말로도.. 그간 저를 응원하고 아껴주신 분들께 충분히 사죄할 수 없겠지만… There are no words through which I could ever apologize enough to the people who've been supporting and loving me all this time. But... 정말. 정말.. 죄송합니다. Really. I'm really... sorry. hwasin | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
Hwasin Sorry is not enough, u make me fail at FPL  Ahh, kidding. Kidding. Hwasin I really like u! I really hope your case is not serious, and able to play again soon!!! P.S. Hwasin u look like my fren kkk. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On May 21 2010 19:03 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Hwasin Sorry is not enough, u make me fail at FPL Ahh, kidding. Kidding. Hwasin I really like u! I really hope your case is not serious, and able to play again soon!!! P.S. Hwasin u look like my fren kkk. I went back to rewatch the KBS news report on this scandal and it seems while some progamers took in money from brokers/Mr Park the academy owner to throw matches, others placed illegal bets on themselves instead. Both criminal both obviously the second one is less severe. Who committed which crime (or both) has not been revealed but hopefully Hwasin and go.go are the latter. | ||
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United States5913 Posts
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