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Match-Fixing Scandal - Conclusion - Page 49
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
An e-sport icon, a champion, a finalist, and two semi-finalists are involved. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On May 21 2010 05:42 dukethegold wrote: E-sports just got raped, hardcore. An e-sport icon, a champion, a finalist, and two semi-finalists are involved. Savior, although bonjwa, has never been regarded as the kind of role model Boxer, Nada or Oov are. BW will survive. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On May 21 2010 05:50 Ryo wrote: Savior, although bonjwa, has never been regarded as the kind of role model Boxer, Nada or Oov are. BW will survive. Are you speaking from the perspective of the Korean scene? Savior did "create" the word, "bonjwa". People used to chat his name after his victories. | ||
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Vathus
Canada404 Posts
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tomfle
7 Posts
On May 21 2010 05:50 Ryo wrote: Savior, although bonjwa, has never been regarded as the kind of role model Boxer, Nada or Oov are. BW will survive. nada or oov is nowhere near savior, in terms of symbolic influence and pool of fans at least. boxer though of course is of his own category. | ||
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KristianJS
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 21 2010 06:42 tomfle wrote: nada or oov is nowhere near savior, in terms of symbolic influence and pool of fans at least. boxer though of course is of his own category. spoken like someone who got into starcraft in 2007. nada and oov are bigger names than savior | ||
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KristianJS
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tomfle
7 Posts
On May 21 2010 06:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: spoken like someone who got into starcraft in 2007. nada and oov are bigger names than savior Obviously they are not. Only need to point out one thing: they let Boxer and Savior to relay the 2008 olympic torch, not Nada or Oov. Btw, Savior refuted to take part, quoting China's poor human rights. At that time I thought he was a good guy, or maybe he really was... | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On May 21 2010 06:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: spoken like someone who got into starcraft in 2007. nada and oov are bigger names than savior not anymore  | ||
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baller
527 Posts
On May 21 2010 07:02 tomfle wrote: Obviously they are not. Only need to point out one thing: they let Boxer and Savior to relay the 2008 olympic torch, not Nada or Oov. Btw, Savior refuted to take part, quoting China's poor human rights. At that time I thought he was a good guy, or maybe he really was... savior was paid 20,000,000 won to not do the torch relay by gambling site | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On May 21 2010 07:02 tomfle wrote: Obviously they are not. Only need to point out one thing: they let Boxer and Savior to relay the 2008 olympic torch, not Nada or Oov. Btw, Savior refuted to take part, quoting China's poor human rights. At that time I thought he was a good guy, or maybe he really was... He did it to fight the system! With this spectacle he intended to draw attention to the poor conditions of the progamers - he wouldnt have gotten attention like this with conventional means Ma Jae Yoon 4ever!! | ||
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NeoScout
United States103 Posts
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Sawajiri
Austria417 Posts
죄 송합니다 I'm sorry. 죄송합니다. I'm sorry. 정말 죄송합니다. e스포츠 관계자분들과 구단분들, 그리고 무엇보다 우리 팀 동료들과 저를 지켜봐주시고 믿어주신 팬 여러분께 진심으로 머리숙여 죄송합니다. I'm really sorry. I apologize sincerely to everyone involved with and working in e-sports, and especially to my team mates and all my fans who've been watching me and believing in me. 감히 죄송하다는 말씀 드릴 자격도 없지만.. 가만히 있는 것은 더욱 도리가 아닌 것 같아, 이렇게 부끄러운 사죄의 글을 올립니다. I know I don't even have the right to apologize... I'm uploading this apology with the thought that keeping silent on the matter would be even worse. 어린 나이도 아니고, 한 순간의 실수였다고 용서를 빌 수 있는 일이 아니라는 거.. 알고 있습니다. 모두 한 순간의 유혹을 뿌리치지 못한 저의 잘못입니다. 정말 진심으로 후회하고 있습니다. At my age, I can't claim it was a moment's mistake and hope for forgiveness... I know that. It's my fault for not being able to resist the temptation of the moment. I'm regretting it from the bottom of my heart. 지난 7년간 수많은 분들이 저를 응원하고 아껴주신 것 알고 있는데.. 덕분에 겨우 지금까지 올 수 있었는데… 정말 제가 왜 그랬는지.. 제가 정말 어리석었습니다. I know that for the last 7 years, hundreds of people have been loving me and cheering for me... Thanks to them, I made it (as a progamer) until now.... why did I do this... I was so immature. 제 자신이 용서가 안 되는데, 이런 글 몇자로 여러분의 용서를 바랄 수도 없고, 제 죄를 덜 수도 없다는 걸 알지만… 그래도 진심으로 죄송하단 말씀 드립니다. I know that it's unforgiveable, that I can't expect to earn your forgiveness through a few letters, that it doesn't make my sin any better... But still. I will tell you how deeply sorry I am. 그 어떤 말로도.. 그간 저를 응원하고 아껴주신 분들께 충분히 사죄할 수 없겠지만… There are no words through which I could ever apologize enough to the people who've been supporting and loving me all this time. But... 정말. 정말.. 죄송합니다. Really. I'm really... sorry. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
Hwasin is still the man. | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
Thanks for translating. | ||
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On May 21 2010 07:02 tomfle wrote: Obviously they are not. Only need to point out one thing: they let Boxer and Savior to relay the 2008 olympic torch, not Nada or Oov. Btw, Savior refuted to take part, quoting China's poor human rights. At that time I thought he was a good guy, or maybe he really was... Do tell me you are kidding. NaDa is THE most consistent player of all time, the first winner of the golden mouse, has been on countless TV-shows and have won a variety of tournaments for the last 9 years, one coinciding with the death of his dad. iloveoov could in his prime be compared to the Flash of today. That guy basically invented macro. In 2008 Saviors achievements were still fresh in memory and people thought he could make a comeback. That does not mean he's been as influental as two of the most important and inspiring progamers in the history of professional Starcraft, nor that he has had more fans or anything like it. NaDa is probably the most famous and well liked progamer after Boxer, and that says a lot. oov on the other hand is the apprentice that beat his master, which just so happens to be Boxer as well.  Savior will only be remembered as the cheating bastard that had a good run of a little more than two years a few years back. | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
On May 21 2010 08:03 sushiman wrote: Savior will only be remembered as the cheating bastard that had a good run of a little more than two years a few years back. I think this is a bit excessive. This isn't like an illegal drug abuse scandal. saviors accomplishments still happened, he was still incredibly dominant. Not that I'm trying to make excuses, of course his name will be forever tainted and in infamy, but it's not as if savior wasn't skilled. He was just a terrible sportsman with no integrity. | ||
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ndralcasid
United States524 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On May 21 2010 08:23 ndralcasid wrote: Wait, where's the source of Hwasin's apology? ...1 page back. + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2010 05:05 Ryo wrote: Hwasin has apologised: 2010.05.21 금 03:13 죄 송합니다 죄송합니다. 정말 죄송합니다. e스포츠 관계자분들과 구단분들, 그리고 무엇보다 우리 팀 동료들과 저를 지켜봐주시고 믿어주신 팬 여러분께 진심으로 머리숙여 죄송합니다. 감히 죄송하다는 말씀 드릴 자격도 없지만.. 가만히 있는 것은 더욱 도리가 아닌 것 같아, 이렇게 부끄러운 사죄의 글을 올립니다. 어린 나이도 아니고, 한 순간의 실수였다고 용서를 빌 수 있는 일이 아니라는 거.. 알고 있습니다. 모두 한 순간의 유혹을 뿌리치지 못한 저의 잘못입니다. 정말 진심으로 후회하고 있습니다. 지난 7년간 수많은 분들이 저를 응원하고 아껴주신 것 알고 있는데.. 덕분에 겨우 지금까지 올 수 있었는데… 정말 제가 왜 그랬는지.. 제가 정말 어리석었습니다. 제 자신이 용서가 안 되는데, 이런 글 몇자로 여러분의 용서를 바랄 수도 없고, 제 죄를 덜 수도 없다는 걸 알지만… 그래도 진심으로 죄송하단 말씀 드립니다. 그 어떤 말로도.. 그간 저를 응원하고 아껴주신 분들께 충분히 사죄할 수 없겠지만… 정말. 정말.. 죄송합니다. http://www.cyworld.com/hwasin0405 ------- My Korean is not fantastic so I'm not translating this in case I get anything wrong. Someone fluent in Korean, pls translate, thanks. Edit: He posted this in his diary, not his sidebar, so he opened it to replies from Korean fans. Several very strong mixed reactions. | ||
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