• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:42
CEST 15:42
KST 22:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon155.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes19Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)98
StarCraft 2
General
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Is the larve respawn broken? ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool ProGamer Paychecks Story BW General Discussion Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? Data needed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
[94721]Better Good-Health Signs Than 3-15 Bans/Yea TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Men's Fashion Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3506 users

Match-Fixing Scandal - Conclusion - Page 11

Forum Index > News
1147 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 58 Next
Tear(
Profile Joined December 2009
United States5 Posts
May 16 2010 04:47 GMT
#201
On May 16 2010 13:44 s_side wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 13:40 crms wrote:
what does that say about the state of esports when players are willing to risk their careers and their freedom for $3k USD?


I'm not sure if it says anything about the state of esports.

What it does do, however, is highlight the lack of integrity and foresight that Savior and the rest of his merry band of idiots have.


bunch of stupid young kids have ruined 10 years of esports history.
easy
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 16 2010 04:48 GMT
#202
On May 16 2010 13:44 Aphelion wrote:
Yea that's another thing:
Show nested quote +
Mr. Ma is said to have skimmed off 2 million won in bribe payments to other progamers for himself


wtf?! This such a piece of shit thing to do.

Wow, I didn't even notice that part...
Ridiculous, ridiculous.
Man I was not around in the time of sAviOr, but I can imagine what his fans must be thinking.....
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
FizbAn
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)80 Posts
May 16 2010 04:49 GMT
#203
On May 16 2010 13:23 SonuvBob wrote:
Not sure what Savior's is, http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/month_details.php?calendar_year=2009&calendar_month=12#day_10

If the date is right then it's not Savior but type-b or Ruby (Both names start with ㅁ).
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 16 2010 04:50 GMT
#204
On May 16 2010 12:51 Tanatos wrote:
I am sure what is coming next in Korean e sports.

Disband of Pro teams, at least CJ entus.

Sorry but the team that used to be the Greatest Ones(team name) shall never be dis-banned. Either way always disappointing to hear top names of nostalgia in something like that.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
May 16 2010 04:52 GMT
#205
On May 16 2010 13:44 Lucid90 wrote:
Personally I don't understand why anyone is disappointed in these players. They just wanted some additional income so they decided to resort to illegal gambling. Starcraft players practice like 15 hours a day and make close to nothing. It's not like they were using hacks or cheating in the game, they were just losing on purpose to make more money.

Obviously this isn't really healthy for the industry as a whole, but still on a personal level I don't see anything wrong with it.

Maybe they shouldn't have chosen to become progamers then.
If you want to play games for a living, you'd better like playing games for a living. There is a contract between you and your employer to perform, and they just failed it (also dealt with gangsters apparently lol). It's basically theft, you're taking money while deliberately not doing what you're supposed to get that money for.
Do you not see why betraying your sponsor thousands of fans is not a moral thing to do? Or, to get back to the money, do random immigrants working 10 hours a day washing dishes get to throw games?
Initial_H.C.
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada560 Posts
May 16 2010 04:53 GMT
#206
Hwasin?
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
May 16 2010 04:53 GMT
#207
On May 16 2010 13:49 FizbAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 13:23 SonuvBob wrote:
Not sure what Savior's is, http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/month_details.php?calendar_year=2009&calendar_month=12#day_10

If the date is right then it's not Savior but type-b or Ruby (Both names start with ㅁ).

Can't imagine either was even close to the favorite in those matches though. Hm.
Administrator
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 16 2010 04:54 GMT
#208
this. shit. is. insane.

Hwasin.. I can't believe it. Is this why you never got past the Ro16??? Were you always paid to fail even though we all knew you had the potential???

And Savior... wow.

Heartbroken.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
May 16 2010 04:54 GMT
#209
only 12 games were rigged?

doesn't seem anything like it had to do with savior's "slump"
Nony is Bonjwa
mint_julep
Profile Joined October 2009
United States254 Posts
May 16 2010 04:55 GMT
#210
On May 16 2010 13:54 Nal_rAwr wrote:
only 12 games were rigged?

doesn't seem anything like it had to do with savior's "slump"


lol, yeah.
I hope Plexa's sig is right.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
May 16 2010 05:03 GMT
#211
oh my god
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
May 16 2010 05:04 GMT
#212
this is really damaging to kespa's reputation. people who didn't follow sc1 but are hopping on the sc2 bandwagon are already lighting their torches for the witchhunt.
The Show of a Lifetime
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 16 2010 05:05 GMT
#213
On May 16 2010 14:04 Terranist wrote:
this is really damaging to kespa's reputation. people who didn't follow sc1 but are hopping on the sc2 bandwagon are already lighting their torches for the witchhunt.

lol like their reputation was anything to begin with
kyophan
Profile Joined January 2010
United States113 Posts
May 16 2010 05:08 GMT
#214
On May 16 2010 14:05 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:04 Terranist wrote:
this is really damaging to kespa's reputation. people who didn't follow sc1 but are hopping on the sc2 bandwagon are already lighting their torches for the witchhunt.

lol like their reputation was anything to begin with

Sorry, but how is this Kespa's fault?
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
May 16 2010 05:09 GMT
#215
at least they got caught. these worthless players are an insult to progaming.
Brood War loyalist
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
May 16 2010 05:09 GMT
#216
On May 16 2010 13:42 mint_julep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 13:39 Tear( wrote:
On May 16 2010 13:26 mint_julep wrote:
Bisu 3-0 Savior series not involved right? That's all I fucking care about.


Pretty sure the betting site didn't even exist back then. and savior wouldn't have given up the final for 2 to 3k USD. ok?


Yeah, I didn't look at the details of when the site came up...

But seriously, savior pushed other players in and then stole off the top from them. Seems to me like he'd have sold out his grandmother on the street for 2-3k USD. ok?


he would have won a hell of a lot more than that for a 1st place finish.
I drop suckas like Plinko
heidman
Profile Joined November 2009
United States3 Posts
May 16 2010 05:09 GMT
#217
This truly makes me wanna cry...
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 16 2010 05:10 GMT
#218
On May 16 2010 13:54 Nal_rAwr wrote:
only 12 games were rigged?

doesn't seem anything like it had to do with savior's "slump"


0% chance
why so 진지해?
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
May 16 2010 05:11 GMT
#219
On May 16 2010 14:08 kyophan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 14:05 semantics wrote:
On May 16 2010 14:04 Terranist wrote:
this is really damaging to kespa's reputation. people who didn't follow sc1 but are hopping on the sc2 bandwagon are already lighting their torches for the witchhunt.

lol like their reputation was anything to begin with

Sorry, but how is this Kespa's fault?

How is the regulatory body for SCBW responsible for preventing match fixing?
LLXC
Profile Joined September 2009
United States125 Posts
May 16 2010 05:13 GMT
#220
I was expecting a lot more money...=|
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 58 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
KungFu Cup 2026 Week 13
IntoTheiNu 1264
WardiTV746
RotterdaM745
TKL 277
SteadfastSC196
CranKy Ducklings61
IndyStarCraft 0
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 745
TKL 277
Ryung 226
SteadfastSC 196
SHIN 154
ProTech113
RushiSC 4
IndyStarCraft 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 56783
Sea 2577
EffOrt 1440
Shuttle 1312
Horang2 820
firebathero 665
Soma 615
Hyuk 605
Light 540
BeSt 431
[ Show more ]
Zeus 257
Rush 245
hero 239
Snow 238
ggaemo 223
Last 161
Soulkey 153
Hyun 85
Dewaltoss 84
Pusan 77
ToSsGirL 45
Aegong 37
Free 34
sorry 29
scan(afreeca) 27
Bale 26
[sc1f]eonzerg 23
Shine 22
zelot 13
Sacsri 11
Dota 2
Gorgc4306
singsing3421
Dendi1046
XaKoH 555
Fuzer 520
XcaliburYe117
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1773
kRYSTAL_32
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King62
Other Games
B2W.Neo899
hiko859
Lowko380
crisheroes312
DeMusliM260
Pyrionflax203
Hui .184
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream206
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 16
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• EnkiAlexander 26
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2990
• TFBlade572
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 18m
CrankTV Team League
21h 18m
Bombastic Starleague
1d 6h
The PondCast
1d 20h
HomeStory Cup
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.