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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
December 17 2009 10:36 GMT
#221
Oh man congratulations Idra, thanks to you the "u gotta skate" meme has completely taken over teamliquid and its livestreams ^^
Damn the man is good at that
beep boop
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 10:54:00
December 17 2009 10:52 GMT
#222
Read a few questions and got too disgusted with his arrogance. It's not funny and certainly not befitting on a prepubescent-looking bitter kid who clearly got teased a bit too much in real-life. Hope you lose, and keep failing in Korea.
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 11:19:41
December 17 2009 11:17 GMT
#223
On December 17 2009 19:52 stafu wrote:
Read a few questions and got too disgusted with his arrogance. It's not funny and certainly not befitting on a prepubescent-looking bitter kid who clearly got teased a bit too much in real-life. Hope you lose, and keep failing in Korea.




i was once in your shoes.
but with thorough reasoning, i am glad i am out.
now rooting for idra and for his BM to pull him higher and higher
he has passed the threshold of being renown as a BM foreigner
he has passed mistrzzz (the only recollection of a true BM foreigner I can recall)
and is A+. you gonna go to a student who got a A+ on a physics exam and say those bad words as if he did not deserve it? maybe your reasoning may be right, maybe they are wrong. regardless, you should respect the game he now brings to the table because if he's the top foreigner, i would shut the (banned) up.
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
December 17 2009 12:22 GMT
#224
On December 17 2009 20:17 QuoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 19:52 stafu wrote:
Read a few questions and got too disgusted with his arrogance. It's not funny and certainly not befitting on a prepubescent-looking bitter kid who clearly got teased a bit too much in real-life. Hope you lose, and keep failing in Korea.

regardless, you should respect the game he now brings to the table because if he's the top foreigner, i would shut the (banned) up.


As in life, being good at something or arbitrary achievements don't give you the right to act like a prick. One day you'll understand this.
Zplut
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany90 Posts
December 17 2009 12:36 GMT
#225
On December 17 2009 05:31 dekuschrub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 04:19 Zplut wrote:
On December 17 2009 01:10 iSiN wrote:
I wish more people could get to meet Greg personally. He's a strangely humble person when you meet him and then he's the villain online. It's understandable losing is hard on me and I'm just a D+ newbie. I can only imagine being A+ and losing a game to anyone especially if they cheat and use invincible units.

Yeah thats strange why does a wimp hasn`t got a big mouth in RL? maybe he likes to keep his teeth in their place?


or maybe its because hes joking on the internet?
comon man just relax and enjoy life a little more hahahah

Or maybe you read the interview again?
"As for my personality, I get angry when I lose, and those comments are just frustration"
He stated himself that he does it out of disapointment because Idra NEVER lost a game to someone who was just better then him its always some race,unit or unicorn that jumps infront of his screen.

I don`t really get the connection between flaming someone I dont like and not enjoying life you can chill Iive near the boarder to the netherlands so I maybe relax way too much.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 17 2009 12:37 GMT
#226
fuckin unicorns
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
December 17 2009 12:45 GMT
#227
On December 17 2009 19:52 stafu wrote:
Read a few questions and got too disgusted with his arrogance. It's not funny and certainly not befitting on a prepubescent-looking bitter kid who clearly got teased a bit too much in real-life. Hope you lose, and keep failing in Korea.

You know who sounds bitter....
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
Zplut
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany90 Posts
December 17 2009 12:49 GMT
#228
On December 17 2009 21:37 IdrA wrote:
fuckin unicorns

lol ok that was funny ^^..... still hate you (ò_ó)
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
December 17 2009 12:59 GMT
#229
On December 17 2009 21:37 IdrA wrote:
fuckin unicorns


LOOL! unicorns, well welly welly well well.


http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
Zplut
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany90 Posts
December 17 2009 13:02 GMT
#230
On December 17 2009 08:01 yhnmk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 07:53 GreEny K wrote:
"As for my personality, I get angry when I lose" Heres some advice "1) Europeans are far too touchy. Life is much more enjoyable if you relax a bit."
KAY, im step in here cause thats been said a lot [by touchy europeans]. Idra cant help if he gets angry over losing a game, its a flash moment response. Hes completely chill with the people afterwards, however. He doesn't hold grudges, he doesn't wake up in sweats or tear out his hair. Europeans jumping to attack Idra after a joke or screaming "were not touchy!! we dont need to relax!!!" isnt a flash moment response, its not a response you largely cant help, and you don't come to a softer conclusion after the moment has past. Europeans are too touchy, and ya do need to relax more.

I know Iam touchy but your from ----->
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
December 17 2009 13:25 GMT
#231
On December 17 2009 22:02 Zplut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 08:01 yhnmk wrote:
On December 17 2009 07:53 GreEny K wrote:
"As for my personality, I get angry when I lose" Heres some advice "1) Europeans are far too touchy. Life is much more enjoyable if you relax a bit."
KAY, im step in here cause thats been said a lot [by touchy europeans]. Idra cant help if he gets angry over losing a game, its a flash moment response. Hes completely chill with the people afterwards, however. He doesn't hold grudges, he doesn't wake up in sweats or tear out his hair. Europeans jumping to attack Idra after a joke or screaming "were not touchy!! we dont need to relax!!!" isnt a flash moment response, its not a response you largely cant help, and you don't come to a softer conclusion after the moment has past. Europeans are too touchy, and ya do need to relax more.

I know Iam touchy but your from ----->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRQdkayp9LE
I AM CANADIAN!
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 17 2009 14:05 GMT
#232
On December 17 2009 21:36 Zplut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 05:31 dekuschrub wrote:
On December 17 2009 04:19 Zplut wrote:
On December 17 2009 01:10 iSiN wrote:
I wish more people could get to meet Greg personally. He's a strangely humble person when you meet him and then he's the villain online. It's understandable losing is hard on me and I'm just a D+ newbie. I can only imagine being A+ and losing a game to anyone especially if they cheat and use invincible units.

Yeah thats strange why does a wimp hasn`t got a big mouth in RL? maybe he likes to keep his teeth in their place?


or maybe its because hes joking on the internet?
comon man just relax and enjoy life a little more hahahah

Or maybe you read the interview again?
"As for my personality, I get angry when I lose, and those comments are just frustration"
He stated himself that he does it out of disapointment because Idra NEVER lost a game to someone who was just better then him its always some race,unit or unicorn that jumps infront of his screen.

I don`t really get the connection between flaming someone I dont like and not enjoying life you can chill Iive near the boarder to the netherlands so I maybe relax way too much.

If you are going to spit out mindless hate then at least you know, spill out mindless hate that is actually true?
Speaking of threats, I have to ask this one now - what happened with koll at WCG, and what are your thoughts on that series?

He played better than me that match and deserved to win, but I definitely hope we'll play again in TSL or some other tournament soon.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
TheDoctor
Profile Joined August 2009
66 Posts
December 17 2009 14:10 GMT
#233
On December 17 2009 22:02 Zplut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 08:01 yhnmk wrote:
On December 17 2009 07:53 GreEny K wrote:
"As for my personality, I get angry when I lose" Heres some advice "1) Europeans are far too touchy. Life is much more enjoyable if you relax a bit."
KAY, im step in here cause thats been said a lot [by touchy europeans]. Idra cant help if he gets angry over losing a game, its a flash moment response. Hes completely chill with the people afterwards, however. He doesn't hold grudges, he doesn't wake up in sweats or tear out his hair. Europeans jumping to attack Idra after a joke or screaming "were not touchy!! we dont need to relax!!!" isnt a flash moment response, its not a response you largely cant help, and you don't come to a softer conclusion after the moment has past. Europeans are too touchy, and ya do need to relax more.

I know Iam touchy but your from ----->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRQdkayp9LE


FUCK HITLER!!!!
A Class Rank yo
Zplut
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany90 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 14:19:05
December 17 2009 14:13 GMT
#234
On December 17 2009 23:10 TheDoctor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 22:02 Zplut wrote:
On December 17 2009 08:01 yhnmk wrote:
On December 17 2009 07:53 GreEny K wrote:
"As for my personality, I get angry when I lose" Heres some advice "1) Europeans are far too touchy. Life is much more enjoyable if you relax a bit."
KAY, im step in here cause thats been said a lot [by touchy europeans]. Idra cant help if he gets angry over losing a game, its a flash moment response. Hes completely chill with the people afterwards, however. He doesn't hold grudges, he doesn't wake up in sweats or tear out his hair. Europeans jumping to attack Idra after a joke or screaming "were not touchy!! we dont need to relax!!!" isnt a flash moment response, its not a response you largely cant help, and you don't come to a softer conclusion after the moment has past. Europeans are too touchy, and ya do need to relax more.

I know Iam touchy but your from ----->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRQdkayp9LE


FUCK HITLER!!!!

nah hes not that sexy

@Harem plz don`t be that touchy and relax xD
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 14:39:57
December 17 2009 14:38 GMT
#235
On December 17 2009 21:22 stafu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 20:17 QuoC wrote:
On December 17 2009 19:52 stafu wrote:
Read a few questions and got too disgusted with his arrogance. It's not funny and certainly not befitting on a prepubescent-looking bitter kid who clearly got teased a bit too much in real-life. Hope you lose, and keep failing in Korea.

regardless, you should respect the game he now brings to the table because if he's the top foreigner, i would shut the (banned) up.


As in life, being good at something or arbitrary achievements don't give you the right to act like a prick. One day you'll understand this.



he's not acting like a prick. he's BEING one. and he has every right to because he fully backs up his reason to be and his motives; what would idra be NOW without his BM past? I honestly can't believe I'd see the day that I defended him.. but seriously, take his advice and relax a bit. yes, it's a computer game. yes, the only thing he can achieve is anything that comes close to boxer.. but god damn, this is a game and it needs some E N T E R T A I N M E N T just as Kobe Bryant will shit on every fan or basketball player that does not like him, he makes it more interesting and has every right to.

Maybe I don't fully agree on the whole Kobe Bryant part, but Idra has changed. For the better. But still the same guy, just with evidence. :D kthxbye

my conclusion: relax a bit; sometimes you just gotta skate, k?
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
December 17 2009 14:53 GMT
#236
On December 17 2009 23:38 QuoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 21:22 stafu wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:17 QuoC wrote:
On December 17 2009 19:52 stafu wrote:
Read a few questions and got too disgusted with his arrogance. It's not funny and certainly not befitting on a prepubescent-looking bitter kid who clearly got teased a bit too much in real-life. Hope you lose, and keep failing in Korea.

regardless, you should respect the game he now brings to the table because if he's the top foreigner, i would shut the (banned) up.


As in life, being good at something or arbitrary achievements don't give you the right to act like a prick. One day you'll understand this.



he's not acting like a prick. he's BEING one. and he has every right to because he fully backs up his reason to be and his motives; what would idra be NOW without his BM past? I honestly can't believe I'd see the day that I defended him.. but seriously, take his advice and relax a bit. yes, it's a computer game. yes, the only thing he can achieve is anything that comes close to boxer.. but god damn, this is a game and it needs some E N T E R T A I N M E N T just as Kobe Bryant will shit on every fan or basketball player that does not like him, he makes it more interesting and has every right to.

Maybe I don't fully agree on the whole Kobe Bryant part, but Idra has changed. For the better. But still the same guy, just with evidence. :D kthxbye

my conclusion: relax a bit; sometimes you just gotta skate, k?


QuoC u gotta chill man, and btw i think im inlove.
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 17 2009 18:55 GMT
#237
On December 17 2009 19:52 stafu wrote:
Read a few questions and got too disgusted with his arrogance. It's not funny and certainly not befitting on a prepubescent-looking bitter kid who clearly got teased a bit too much in real-life. Hope you lose, and keep failing in Korea.

Nowadays I've really gotten to like his humor and I believe that he's not entirely serious most of the time. Also, it's he's actually pretty active with the community and clearly cares or at least follows what his fans and other people think about him. It used to be like he was kind of bad before and hence the trashtalking felt out of place but now he actually backs it up and it's a lot more entertaining than if he like never talked about anything or made those funny comments and just said GG every game and was bland and boring.

This is actually a really nice interview.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 19:03:04
December 17 2009 19:02 GMT
#238
On December 17 2009 23:38 QuoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 21:22 stafu wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:17 QuoC wrote:
On December 17 2009 19:52 stafu wrote:
Read a few questions and got too disgusted with his arrogance. It's not funny and certainly not befitting on a prepubescent-looking bitter kid who clearly got teased a bit too much in real-life. Hope you lose, and keep failing in Korea.

regardless, you should respect the game he now brings to the table because if he's the top foreigner, i would shut the (banned) up.


As in life, being good at something or arbitrary achievements don't give you the right to act like a prick. One day you'll understand this.



he's not acting like a prick. he's BEING one. and he has every right to because he fully backs up his reason to be and his motives; what would idra be NOW without his BM past? I honestly can't believe I'd see the day that I defended him.. but seriously, take his advice and relax a bit. yes, it's a computer game. yes, the only thing he can achieve is anything that comes close to boxer.. but god damn, this is a game and it needs some E N T E R T A I N M E N T just as Kobe Bryant will shit on every fan or basketball player that does not like him, he makes it more interesting and has every right to.

Maybe I don't fully agree on the whole Kobe Bryant part, but Idra has changed. For the better. But still the same guy, just with evidence. :D kthxbye

my conclusion: relax a bit; sometimes you just gotta skate, k?

Sorry, I forgot you can't be entertaining without making yourself look like a complete asshole while being rude and disrespectful to other people, rofl? Is this a joke post? If you are that much of an indoor kid that you can't relate what I'm saying, note BeSt in the MSL group selection. Self-deprecation is far funnier and more entertaining than, whatever it is Idra is supposedly doing to be *entertaining* (yeah right). And why are you comparing Idra, a kid who's lived in Korea for the last 2 years playing computer games and done nothing of note within the actual Korean scene, with Kobe Bryant? How does Idra have any right to talk shit exactly? Are people actually fucking seriously surprised that Idra is doing well in the foreigner scene after living in the eSTRO/CJ houses for however long, competing against people who have real lives outside StarCraft?

As for what would Idra be without his BM past? I don't know, a respected player who non-fanboy foreigners might actually want to see succeed in Korea, instead of feeling embarrassed for the entire non-Korean community perhaps.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
December 17 2009 19:06 GMT
#239
I wonder how he is liking it at SKT practice house. He must be dominating go rush.
Each day gets better : )
Cyrox
Profile Joined October 2007
Sweden147 Posts
December 17 2009 20:20 GMT
#240
Great interview! I hope Idra dosnt win but he's got great odds to win it all.
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