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[MSL] On Your Mark

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[MSL] On Your Mark

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September 26th, 2009 06:25 GMT
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Fall ’09 MSL Offline Preliminaries

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the kickoff event of the Fall ’09 MSL. In just a few days, we will see the end of a grueling offseason, and begin fostering our high hopes for a brand new MSL. The new league commences with one of the most pivotal points in it for us as fans: the offline qualifiers. We will all be crossing our fingers for our favorite players to pass this trial so we can see them compete on the big stage.

This MSL’s offline qualifiers is split into 20 groups, 7 in the morning, 7 in the afternoon, and 6 in the evening, a veritable marathon of Starcraft to see who we’ll be seeing compete for the title this fall. For any who are unfamiliar with how the qualifiers work or how the MSL proceeds from here, read up on MBCGame's league in the Ultimate MSL FAQ.

Since the event is basically all day, tuning in is rather easy if streams are provided. Check the Ultimate VOD/Livestream thread for instructions on what set up is required to use some of the tools and resources for watching live, and check the official event thread as the time approaches for streamers/details.

Below is the schedule and matchups, along with a quick preview of each. GTR generously donated his predictions to this post for public scrutiny.

MORNING

Group 1
(T)go.go vs (Z)yCh[z-zOne]
(T)Favian vs (P)TosSLove
(P)hungry vs (Z)Killer
(Z)Revival vs (T)GanZi

The main competitors in this group are go.go, GanZi, and Killer. Killer, aside from having an absolutely incredible name, showed some good games in the Map Test, even stopping the GoSi[Flying] juggernaut. GanZi also showed a decent game against no-name Zerg n.Die.soO, but has otherwise been uninspiring. Go.go is the favorite, as he has actually won some games against decent opponents, but also lost games against bad opponents. This is a bad group, but I expect go.go has it in him to snatch a spot in this MSL.

My pick: (T)go.go
GTR’s pick: (Z)yCh[z-zOne]

Group 2
(T)HiyA vs (P)KT.MGW)Protoss
(T)Special vs (Z)Haran
(P)Purple vs (Z)oDin
(Z)Lake[Shield] vs (P)Pusan

Expect HiyA, and Pusan to be the main contenders in this group with the outside shot being oDin. Haran will be tied up with Special, and isn’t very good anyway, while HiyA, Pusan, and oDin have relative cakewalks. oDin struggles randomly and, while he put together an extremely impressive game against Iris in the Proleague playoffs, is not up to the solid opposition of either Pusan or HiyA. Pusan has a decent shot, but HiyA is more consistent.

My pick: (T)HiyA
GTR’s pick: (T)HiyA

Group 3
(T)firebathero vs (Z)maestro
(P)LuCifer vs (Z)Hydra
(P)IsaC vs (T)MVP
(P)JaewOo vs (Z)FireFist

Maestro’s name alone damns him against the biggest name in the group, firebathero, but look to MVP, FireFist, or Lucifer also putting up a fight. Lucifer has a tough first game in Hydra, while FireFist, MVP, and firebathero should come out with wins in theirs easily. I expect firebathero to be on his game for this qualifier, and come out on top.

My pick: (T)firebathero
GTR’s pick: (Z)FireFist

Group 4
(T)NaDa vs (Z)Haha
(P)Stats vs (T)Dove
(T)Classic vs (P)IrOn
(P)Britney vs (Z)Modesty

NaDa, Stats, and Modesty are the only players with real shots in this group. IrOn is the darkhorse, but expect this group to come down to either NaDa or Modesty. Though I loathe to exclude NaDa, Modesty is definitely an improving Zerg with a lot of potential, and he should take the group, but NaDa is always NaDa, so there’s no telling for sure.

My pick: (Z)Modesty
GTR’s pick: (Z)Modesty

Group 5
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] vs (T)Wrath
(Z)n.Die_soO vs (P)fOru
(P)Smile vs (Z)ggaemo
(P)By.Rage vs (T)Last

Yarnc is to thank for making this an easy group to call. Last, fOru and ggaemo are the only others that are even recognizable names, and Last only for his absurdly long TvT against Sea. Ggaemo is a pushover, and so I expect this group to definitely be between Yarnc and Last. Yarnc’s signature matchup is his ZvT, and Last just got a bad draw with Yarnc in his group. As it stands, Yarnc is playing very good Starcraft, perhaps the best of his career, since we last saw him, at least, so this one should go to Yarnc.

My pick: (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
GTR’s pick: (Z)YellOw[ArnC]

Group 6
(Z)type-b vs (T)Ryung
(P)Spear vs (T)Suny
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey vs (P)yoOn
(P)GgMaN[Name] vs (T)FrOzean

This group belongs to type-b or FrOzean. Spear has been strangely good in preliminaries in the past, but luck only holds so long. I expect type-b here, as he usually performs quite well in Starleagues, and Frozean does not.

My pick: (Z)type-b
GTR's pick: (Z)type-b

Group 7
(Z)great vs (P)Mell
(Z)eagle vs (T)yeOngJae
(P)Moon vs (T)Bogus
(P)Someday vs (T)Justin

This group is most likely between Bogus, Justin, and great. Great is the favorite to win here, but Bogus showed some talent in his GOM games so it would be inadvisable to dismiss him here. Sadly for Justin, that’s not the case. He hasn’t looked particularly sharp, and I expect Bogus to have improved since those GOM games. In this case, I like Bogus over great, because I think Bogus plays smarter Starcraft and is looking to break out.

My pick: (T)Bogus
GTR’s pick: (Z)great


AFTERNOON

Group 8
(T)Really vs (P)neo.g_zerO
(Z)Peace vs (P)Brave
(T)BByong vs (P)SoO
(T)tHuNdeR vs (Z)HoeJJa

Really, SoO, and HoeJJa make up the contenders for Group 8. SoO hasn’t played well except for GOM, and, against a Proleague regular like Really, he doesn’t stand much of a chance. HoeJJa could pull off the upset, but HoeJJa’s hook is that he is highly inconsistent. He will put on a brilliant display of Starcraft, and then be nothing but terrible for long stretches. HoeJJa won’t be able to keep a good streak going long enough to best Really, allowing Really to grab a spot this fall.

My pick: (T)Really
GTR’s pick: (T)Really

Group 9
(Z)RorO vs (P)Grape
(Z)Clay vs (P)M18M
(T)Mong vs (P)PerfectMan
(Z)MvPzerG vs (T)Casy

This is one of the more recognizable groups this offline qualifier. RorO, M18M, Mong, PerfectMan, and Casy all participated in the last Proleague. Of these, Mong and M18M were the most impressive from among the non-regulars, though Mong was not until recently and failed in his only Proleague appearance against 815. Casy has an easy game in his best matchup against a no-name Zerg, while M18M shouldn’t be complacent against Clay, and Mong should trample PerfectMan. Despite Mong’s impressive Minor League record, I think, should he end up only in contention with RorO for the spot, will likely lose. RorO is not an impressive player, but he can play very well sometimes. If it is instead Casy fighting with RorO, I expect a toss up, so I’m going with my gut on this one.

My pick: (Z)RorO
GTR’s pick: (T)Mong

Group 10
(T)Lomo vs BYE
(T)hwan vs (P)hOdduk
(P)Rock vs (Z)MIsO
(P)Say vs (Z)YellOw
(T)Reality vs (Z)Saint

Don’t expect any magic from YellOw, Rock, or Saint. I’m so very sad to say it, but Lomo has this one tied up.

My pick: (T)Lomo
GTR’s pick: (T)Lomo

Group 11
(P)SangHo vs BYE
(T)TurN vs (P)Fenix
(Z)Crazy-Hydra vs (T)DarkElf
(P)jjonga vs (Z)aMeBa
(Z)sungsun vs (T)Notice

SangHo is the favorite here, but it’s not going to be him. SangHo had a break out last Proleague, but he’s been woefully inconsistent since then, and, frankly, that’s exactly the kind of player that ambitious and talented youngsters unseat. This group is wide open, because I’m convinced SangHo is going to choke. Whoever steps up in this group can take it, including ACE’s DarkElf, but I don’t see him taking it. aMeBa sports a somewhat impressive Minor League record, Notice all-killed ACE and did fairly well at times in Proleague, and even TurN or Crazy-Hydra may have improved enough to step in and take this one. In a group that’s up for grabs, you have to go with your gut.

My pick: (T)Notice
GTR’s pick: (Z)aMeBa

Group 12
(P)GuemChi vs BYE
(Z)Just vs (T)DDONG
(Z)Shark vs (P)herb
(Z)Sacsri vs (T)PuMa
(P)Paralyze vs (T)Miracle

A bunch of recognizable names populates this group, like Miracle, herb, Shark, GuemChi, and Sacsri. Only one of these players (GuemChi) has done anything worth noting (beat Bisu), and he looked fairly good toward the end of the last Proleague (going 8-2 to close out the season). Shark, herb, and Sacsri haven’t done anything remotely impressive, with Shark being recognizably mediocre, Sacsri having not done anything, and herb just has a bizarre/funny name. Miracle will pose GuemChi’s biggest challenge to take this group, as he’s beaten Luxury, Kwanro, and a couple of others. Miracle’s TvP, though, has been noticeably lacking, with his most impressive Protoss opponent who he’s vanquished being Shuttle. If GuemChi can make it to the deciding match, he should take the group decisively.

My pick: (P)GuemChi
GTR’s pick: (T)Miracle

Group 13
(Z)July vs BYE
(P)Rex.IU vs (Z)Yuki
(T)Dongrae vs (P)mingu
(Z)Rarity vs (T)SaiR
(T)Rush vs (P)Tester

July, Dongrae, SaiR, and Tester should be the only names in contention here. Allow me to tell it like it is: SaiR is a bad player. Tester has been unimpressive throughout his career. Dongrae hasn’t played anybody resembling a challenge in a very, very long time. July has a Golden Mouse on his shelf. This one is open and shut.

My pick: (Z)July
GTR’s pick: (Z)July

Group 14
(Z)Thezerg vs BYE
(P)Wuk vs (T)SungEun
(P)han vs (Z)NeeL
(P)ASuka-Jr vs (T)Midas
(T)ClouD vs (Z)815

Two young Zergs and two old Terrans are the standout names in this group. Midas and ClouD should struggle against 815, as the sometimes-good-oftentimes-decent 815 is not a pushover opponent. Thezerg will enjoy his bye, but it won’t mean much against 815’s superior ZvZ.

My pick: (Z)815
GTR’s pick: (Z)815


EVENING

Group 15
(Z)HoGiL vs BYE
(Z)Princess vs (T)Bubble
(P)GosI[Flying] vs (T)Major
(P)Snow vs (Z)Juni
(T)hOn_sin vs (P)Tempest

No progamer whose name is Princess or Bubble has a chance to take this group. No, the contenders here are HoGiL, who I will contend to the end is nothing but a mediocre Zerg, no matter who he’s beaten, Tempest, and GosI[Flying]. Yes, Major has played some games and yes, Juni and Snow have to. Here’s what you need to know: Major lost to HoGiL recently, and Juni lost to GosI[Flying], and Juni beat Tempest. Oh, and Snow isn’t good. I expect the clear and unequivocal winner to be GosI[Flying]. This guy has been an absolute beast lately, and HoGiL will go down to his very respectable PvZ.

My pick: (P)GosI[Flying]
GTR’s pick: (P)GosI[Flying]

Group 16
(P)Jaehoon vs BYE
(T)Sse[kal] vs (P)haitai
(Z)Chavi vs (T)Fancy
(Z)Devil vs (P)DaezanG
(T)Sharp vs (Z)GoRush

This group is wide open. Whenever a group is issuing Jaehoon a bye, there is no chance that that group is very talented. The focus here should definitely be on the bottom part, where Devil is looking to challenge an established, but struggling, DaezanG, and GoRush will look to qualify again after the last KesPA debacle. I expect GoRush to take his sharp game, and DaezanG I am convinced has a decent shot against Devil, though I still think GoRush would win in either case. If the ultimate match is GoRush and Jaehoon, I would expect Jaehoon to roll over.

My pick: (Z)GoRush
GTR’s pick: (Z)GoRush

Group 17
(Z)Hyuk vs BYE
(P)Dear vs (Z)Lucky
(P)Tazza vs (T)koala
(Z)herO[jOin] vs (T)XellOs
(T)Bee vs (P)YoonJoong

Some groups are just really tough to call. This is one of them. Tazza isn’t that bad, and will constitute Hyuk’s primary competition until he meets the winner of the bottom half, which will likely be Shuttle. XellOs should take down hero[jOin], and Shuttle should beat Bee, and if it comes to that, I expect Shuttle’s occasionally very good PvT to beat XellOs’ TvP. That having been said, Shuttle’s PvZ is less than impressive, and even worse for him, HyuK’s ZvP is looking rather good lately. This group will probably be HyuK’s, unless XellOs pulls an upset of Shuttle, in which case it’s up in the air, but I’d still call HyuK.

My pick: (Z)Hyuk
GTR’s pick: (Z)Hyuk

Group 18
(Z)Shine vs BYE
(P)Actually vs (T)remember
(T)tiny vs (Z)Action
(T)ToSsGirL vs (P)HakSoo
(Z)ZerG[kaL] vs (P)Reach

ToSsGirL loses to HakSoo, and if she doesn’t, then she loses to Reach. Now that we’re done with that, Action should emerge from the top half here, Reach from the bottom. HakSoo isn’t a bad player, necessarily, but his PvP is subpar, and Reach has been looking fairly good at ACE. After starting fairly hot last Proleague, Shine has been miserable since, so don’t expect him to get past Action, and if he does, Reach should still cut him down.

My pick: (P)Reach
GTR’s pick: (P)Reach

Group 19
[spoiler](Z)keke vs BYE
(T)Dream.t)Marine vs (P)Wizard
(T)BoxeR vs (P)Trap
(Z)45[Name] vs (P)Nbs
(T)Firebat vs (Z)HyuN

I’m not the only guy saying this, so if it turns out to be wrong, throw your angry bricks through someone else’s window, but I’m calling BoxeR. It’s not fanboyism, because I hold no particular affection for Boxer or T1 outside of his symbolic nature. So why do I think he’s going to make it out? Because I think he can get through Trap. Trap should be his toughest opponent, as we’ve seen that Trap can play decent PvT. After that though, who is there to stop him? Keke? BoxeR beat a player with much better ZvT very recently in Yarnc. HyuN? Same story. Nbs should lose to HyuN, leaving a HyuN-BoxeR finish to this group. So, if all the stars are aligned just right, for the first time in a very long time, our MSL will get a dose of the Emperor.

My pick: (T)BoxeR
GTR’s pick: (T)BoxeR

Group 20
(T)Sea vs (P)invade
(P)GoZip vs (T)Barracks
(P)Sky[kaL] vs (Z)s2
(Z)hwata vs (T)BaBy

BaBy, Sea, and s2 should be the people competing for the last spot. As it stands, Sea is playing pretty well, and BaBy is not. Really, this group should be open and shut in favor of Sea. But something is holding me back, something that I’ve seen in s2’s games lately that makes me think that he’s not as bad as his initial (read: every game prior to the last month) results showed. Still, call me a coward, I’m taking the safe pick, and I’m happy with it, but I would not be surprised if s2 took the group.

My pick: (T)Sea
GTR’s pick: (T)BaBy

So there’s the preview and the picks as the new MSL begins in just a few days time. Whatever players qualify at the conclusion of this important event, expect exciting games and clutch performances from this brand new season. Prepare to celebrate, Starcraft fans, because soon, the offseason will be dead. Long live the offseason.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
September 27 2009 16:24 GMT
#2
the banners are sick
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
September 27 2009 16:36 GMT
#3
this is really helpful for picking random favorites. thanks guys! im looking forward to this!
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Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
September 27 2009 16:40 GMT
#4
really nice writeup and yeah sick banner
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Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
September 27 2009 16:45 GMT
#5
XellOs!!! Go XellOs!!! Make the face!~! (-__-)
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 27 2009 16:46 GMT
#6
This is awesome!

Although I disagree with certain judgments ((Z)Princess, despite having a sissy name, is a hugely scrappy player that slipped in a puddle and found a progaming license in it) altogether this looks to be an entertaining MST.
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
September 27 2009 17:12 GMT
#7
Is Idra not attending this because he's in the US or is there another reason?
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 27 2009 17:21 GMT
#8
How much MSL have survivor hosted already?
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 17:39:02
September 27 2009 17:35 GMT
#9
"GTR’s pick: (Z)(Z)yCh[z-zOne]"
Good job GTR!

Quite a bit of criticism. For example, wasn't yCh like the #1 draft? Also, isn't Classic really good? Why would you completely ignore these new players with potential? At least give a mention.
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Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
September 27 2009 17:36 GMT
#10
Does anyone know who's going to take shine's (the T that retired) place? I'm asking for the remote chance of having some tourney between the second placers for it.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 17:42:34
September 27 2009 17:41 GMT
#11
+ Show Spoiler [Predictions] +
Group 1
(T)go.go
Group 2
(P)Purple
Group 3
(Z)FireFist
Group 4
(T)NaDa
Group 5
(Z)YellOw[ArnC]
Group 7
(T)Bogus
Group 8
(T)tHuNdeR
Group 9
(P)PerfectMan
Group 10
(Z)YellOw
Group 11
(Z)aMeBa
Group 12
(T)Miracle
Group 13
(Z)July
Group 14
(Z)815
Group 15
(P)GosI[Flying]
Group 16
(Z)GoRush
Group 17
(T)XellOs
Group 18
(P)Reach
Group 19
(T)BoxeR
Group 20
(T)BaBy


Notes:
- I want an MSL with (P)GosI[Flying], (P)PerfectMan, (Z)aMeBa, and someone else random like (T)tHuNdeR, Give me young dynamic new players!
- Also, (T)The Gnome and (T)The Emperor have really good chances to advance. They better make it happen.
- I can't take (T)Lomo or (T)HiyA seriously. May they never win.

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Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
September 27 2009 17:45 GMT
#12
If Baby makes it out of this, he is now Bonjwa.

just kidding, but i would want to see Baby advance
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AMaidensWrath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Belgium206 Posts
September 27 2009 17:46 GMT
#13
What does BYE mean?
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
September 27 2009 17:58 GMT
#14
STX is going to destroy this MSL. Almost every STX player in these groups is at least a top competitor in it
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
September 27 2009 18:01 GMT
#15
Boxer ftw!!
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United States2069 Posts
September 27 2009 18:14 GMT
#16
sick banner

lol at FBH vs maestro! also really great to see boxer with a good group
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
September 27 2009 18:19 GMT
#17
BoxeR MSL.... nuff said!!! All hail the MSL Preliminaries!!!!!
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
September 27 2009 18:19 GMT
#18
On September 28 2009 02:58 Ideas wrote:
STX is going to destroy this MSL. Almost every STX player in these groups is at least a top competitor in it


Hells yes. STX is on the rebound. They just need Hwasin to keep performing (maybe step it up slightly) and Kal needs to find his game again. Hero and Calm is doing great now and July can allways be a threat. GOGO STX for Proleague champions 09/10!
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
September 27 2009 18:25 GMT
#19
lol i want tossgirl made to ro32 :[
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 18:34:44
September 27 2009 18:34 GMT
#20
Does this mean (P)BeSt isn't even trying to break into the MSL this time?
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Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
September 27 2009 18:41 GMT
#21
On September 28 2009 03:25 AlwaysGG wrote:
lol i want tossgirl made to ro32 :[

agreed.

and something tells me 815 isnt making it.
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Profile Joined December 2008
Canada169 Posts
September 27 2009 18:46 GMT
#22
Come on Boxer, make it out!
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1611 Posts
September 27 2009 18:46 GMT
#23
On September 28 2009 03:34 Zato-1 wrote:
Does this mean (P)BeSt isn't even trying to break into the MSL this time?

Huh, really!!! Where is he???
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jiaflu
Profile Joined May 2009
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 18:53:24
September 27 2009 18:52 GMT
#24
Missing Group 6 predictions!

Anyways, I'd take (T)FrOzean over (Z)type-b (LOL shattered confidence!)
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
September 27 2009 18:53 GMT
#25
On September 28 2009 03:46 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2009 03:34 Zato-1 wrote:
Does this mean (P)BeSt isn't even trying to break into the MSL this time?

Huh, really!!! Where is he???

Well, I just read the rules for the MSL. He might have skipped the Offline Prelims and gone straight to the Survivor stage, if he's the highest-ranked SKT1 player by KeSPA not seeded directly into the MSL... I can only hope that's the case.
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
September 27 2009 18:54 GMT
#26
On September 28 2009 03:46 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2009 03:34 Zato-1 wrote:
Does this mean (P)BeSt isn't even trying to break into the MSL this time?

Huh, really!!! Where is he???


If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say he's T1's highest-ranked player not already seeded, and thus gets into the MSL due to the goofy-ass new rules.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
September 27 2009 19:02 GMT
#27
On September 28 2009 03:54 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2009 03:46 Jenia6109 wrote:
On September 28 2009 03:34 Zato-1 wrote:
Does this mean (P)BeSt isn't even trying to break into the MSL this time?

Huh, really!!! Where is he???


If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say he's T1's highest-ranked player not already seeded, and thus gets into the MSL due to the goofy-ass new rules.

Well, if that was the case, he'd make it into the 48-man Survivor tournament, only half of which make it into the actual MSL.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 19:08:10
September 27 2009 19:07 GMT
#28
I think YellOw can make it...

Please make it...

And though July has an easy group, July also loses to the most random players in MSL lol...Still hoping he makes it out though ^.^
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natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
September 27 2009 19:23 GMT
#29
where's group 6?
This nigga done stole my bike.
tyreek
Profile Joined June 2009
United States141 Posts
September 27 2009 19:25 GMT
#30
GosI[Flying] is going to dominate his group.
STORMMMMMMUUUUUUUUU
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 22:39:04
September 27 2009 19:26 GMT
#31

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:O!!!!! GO BOXERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 20:35:59
September 27 2009 19:39 GMT
#32
Yeah, let's get these leagues rollin'!

+ Show Spoiler [Predictions:] +
Group 1
(Z)yCh[z-zOne]
Group 2
(T)HiyA
Group 3
(T)firebathero
Group 4
(T)NaDa
Group 5
(Z)YellOw[ArnC]
Group 6
(Z)type-b
Group 7
(Z)by.great
Group 8
(Z)HoeJJa
Group 9
(P)M18M
Group 10
(Z)YellOw
Group 11
(P)SangHo
Group 12
(P)GuemChi
Group 13
(Z)July
Group 14
(Z)Thezerg
Group 15
(P)GosI[Flying]
Group 16
(Z)Chavi
Group 17
(P)YoonJoong
Group 18
(T)ToSsGirL
Group 19
(T)BoxeR
Group 20
(T)Sea

Race Breakdown
9 Z
6 T
5 P
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 27 2009 19:44 GMT
#33
gosi[flying]! Hope he rapes MSL
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 20:13:40
September 27 2009 20:12 GMT
#34
With regards to the OP, why did you count out ych from group 1? You obvs haven't watched his games vs free... he absolutely does not play like a new recruit, and I thoroughly agree with GTR's prediction of ych making it through: ganzi gogo and killer are shit compared to ych. expect to see alot of him next season.
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Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
September 27 2009 20:12 GMT
#35
I'm hoping BaBy makes it. GLHF
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
September 27 2009 20:21 GMT
#36
On September 28 2009 04:23 natturner wrote:
Where's group 6?
Group 6:
(Z)TypE-B vs (T)Ryung
(P)Spear vs (T)Suny
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey vs (P)yoOn
(P)GgMaN[Name] vs (T)FrOzean

I think it’ll be (Z)TypE-B.
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 27 2009 20:33 GMT
#37
ROFL firebathero vs maestro :D
:)
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
September 27 2009 20:34 GMT
#38
On September 28 2009 04:23 natturner wrote:
where's group 6?


Lack of group 6 in post=down the memory hole.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
September 27 2009 20:44 GMT
#39
Ouch, no love for NaDa recently.
Oh, my eSports
Rjx5(LT)
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada27 Posts
September 27 2009 20:46 GMT
#40
that looks great, thx
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
September 27 2009 20:47 GMT
#41
Go Boxer, Flying, type-B and Sea!
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cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
September 27 2009 21:03 GMT
#42
Any news of the sponsor? The front page still says Avalon; are they sponsoring again?
Ndrew
Profile Joined June 2009
Poland30 Posts
September 27 2009 21:06 GMT
#43
i really hope boxer and fbh make it out
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 21:18:22
September 27 2009 21:14 GMT
#44
On September 28 2009 05:12 rotinegg wrote:
With regards to the OP, why did you count out ych from group 1? You obvs haven't watched his games vs free... he absolutely does not play like a new recruit, and I thoroughly agree with GTR's prediction of ych making it through: ganzi gogo and killer are shit compared to ych. expect to see alot of him next season.

Dream on. That guy is gonna lose to go go for sure. go go is not the best T, but he is solid. And even if he does win the chances of him making it out of the group are still slim.

GTR is just trying to call the surprise. :D If you predict a no name is gonna advance and he does you're gosu. If he doesn't it doesn't matter, cause no one expected it to happen.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
September 27 2009 21:25 GMT
#45
Gogo Paralyze/Tazza/Boxer/GoRush/YellOw~

Especially GoRush because of that idiotic Kespa decision to DQ him in the last OSL.

Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
September 27 2009 21:28 GMT
#46
(-__-)
Xellos Fighting!
I also hope Nada & Baby make it through this stage :D
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mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
September 27 2009 21:39 GMT
#47
the Emperor is back
"Only the Good Die Young"
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 21:42:48
September 27 2009 21:41 GMT
#48
On September 28 2009 06:14 sashkata wrote:
Dream on. That guy is gonna lose to go go for sure. go go is not the best T, but he is solid. And even if he does win the chances of him making it out of the group are still slim.

GTR is just trying to call the surprise. :D If you predict a no name is gonna advance and he does you're gosu. If he doesn't it doesn't matter, cause no one expected it to happen.

17-1 in eval matches and being 1st pick in fall 2009 drafts is what i base my predictions on. and free, although he may be out of form, is by no means a sloppy P; he just hasnt had that much luck in individual leagues. Although I admit I am only basing this off of two VOD's, ych's timings were spot on in his first match vs free, his advances were bold, which means he doesnt let the pressure of being on stage get to him, his multitasking was up to par, and knew what he should be doing at any given point in the game. His performance was outstanding, considering it was his first televised game, and with a little more experience, I believe he will prove to be a gem
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2384 Posts
September 27 2009 22:46 GMT
#49
Chavi will qualify.

And FBH had better x.x
The original Bogus fan.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
September 27 2009 22:49 GMT
#50
On September 28 2009 06:41 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2009 06:14 sashkata wrote:
On September 28 2009 05:12 rotinegg wrote:
With regards to the OP, why did you count out ych from group 1? You obvs haven't watched his games vs free... he absolutely does not play like a new recruit, and I thoroughly agree with GTR's prediction of ych making it through: ganzi gogo and killer are shit compared to ych. expect to see alot of him next season.

Dream on. That guy is gonna lose to go go for sure. go go is not the best T, but he is solid. And even if he does win the chances of him making it out of the group are still slim.

GTR is just trying to call the surprise. :D If you predict a no name is gonna advance and he does you're gosu. If he doesn't it doesn't matter, cause no one expected it to happen.

17-1 in eval matches and being 1st pick in fall 2009 drafts is what i base my predictions on. and free, although he may be out of form, is by no means a sloppy P; he just hasnt had that much luck in individual leagues. Although I admit I am only basing this off of two VOD's, ych's timings were spot on in his first match vs free, his advances were bold, which means he doesnt let the pressure of being on stage get to him, his multitasking was up to par, and knew what he should be doing at any given point in the game. His performance was outstanding, considering it was his first televised game, and with a little more experience, I believe he will prove to be a gem

Regardless of how good a newly drafted player is, the chances of them getting through their first ever preliminary are minute. Usually the surprise players that move on are players 6 months or a year removed from being drafted and have been through the experience a few times. (P)IrOn is a very very rare exception to this rule, as he made it through last season's OSL prelims his first time through.

Does (Z)yCh have a shot? Yeah, he seems to be a gifted player who certainly has a good pedigree; he's on a team with notable Zerg talents ((Z)Calm, (Z)July, (Z)hero, etc) and he comes from a clan noteworthy for some exceptional Zerg players. So he's worthy of mention, but the odds are still stacked heavily against him.

+ Show Spoiler [Predictions] +
1) (T)GanZi
2) (T)HiyA
3) (Z)Hydra
4) (Z)Modesty
5) (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
6) (Z)type-b
7) (T)yeOngJae
8) (P)SoO
9) (T)Mong
10) (T)Lomo
11) (Z)aMeBa
12) (P)GuemChi
13) (Z)July
14) (T)Midas
15) (Z)Juni
16) (Z)Devil
17) (T)XellOs
18) (Z)Action
19) (T)BoxeR
20) (T)Sea
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RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
September 27 2009 23:21 GMT
#51
Wow, there is a fair number of old schoolers in contention here. Boxer and GoRush going thru will do it for me.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
September 28 2009 00:54 GMT
#52
go go go eSTRO players!
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Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
September 28 2009 00:55 GMT
#53
(P)Trap is going to defeat (T)BoxeR. You heard it here first.

But seriously, Boxer seems to have trouble with unknown Protoss players. I mean last qualifiers, he lost to (P)herb. As such, considering Trap`s (incredibly dry and boring) strong standard play, I do not see Boxer getting past him.
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Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
September 28 2009 02:39 GMT
#54
On September 28 2009 09:55 Tom Phoenix wrote:
(P)Trap is going to defeat (T)BoxeR. You heard it here first.

But seriously, Boxer seems to have trouble with unknown Protoss players. I mean last qualifiers, he lost to (P)herb. As such, considering Trap`s (incredibly dry and boring) strong standard play, I do not see Boxer getting past him.


This was my thinking.

After all, it's a (P)Trap!!
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
September 28 2009 02:43 GMT
#55
On September 28 2009 09:55 Tom Phoenix wrote:
(P)Trap is going to defeat (T)BoxeR. You heard it here first.

But seriously, Boxer seems to have trouble with unknown Protoss players. I mean last qualifiers, he lost to (P)herb. As such, considering Trap`s (incredibly dry and boring) strong standard play, I do not see Boxer getting past him.


and what exactly are you basing this off of? i seriously doubt anyone has seen more than three of trap's games, and all three against a certain terran. i seriously think boxer is the favorite in his group.
JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
September 28 2009 02:52 GMT
#56
What happened to Skyhigh? I thought he was in Boxer's group...
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MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
September 28 2009 03:00 GMT
#57
On September 28 2009 11:52 JodoYodo wrote:
What happened to Skyhigh? I thought he was in Boxer's group...

Already seeded, no?
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
September 28 2009 03:09 GMT
#58
On September 28 2009 11:52 JodoYodo wrote:
What happened to Skyhigh? I thought he was in Boxer's group...

That's OSL.

This is for MSL.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2009 03:30 GMT
#59
On September 28 2009 06:14 sashkata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2009 05:12 rotinegg wrote:
With regards to the OP, why did you count out ych from group 1? You obvs haven't watched his games vs free... he absolutely does not play like a new recruit, and I thoroughly agree with GTR's prediction of ych making it through: ganzi gogo and killer are shit compared to ych. expect to see alot of him next season.

Dream on. That guy is gonna lose to go go for sure. go go is not the best T, but he is solid. And even if he does win the chances of him making it out of the group are still slim.

GTR is just trying to call the surprise. :D If you predict a no name is gonna advance and he does you're gosu. If he doesn't it doesn't matter, cause no one expected it to happen.

The game vs Free was his first televised game ever. prelims aren't televised. Think about that for a while.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
September 28 2009 03:57 GMT
#60
Miracle has beaten all less stellar protosses recently and he can do the same to guemchi. I want to see how far he can get.
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iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-28 10:29:42
September 28 2009 10:27 GMT
#61
GOGO SEA MVPZERG YCH SKY BBYONG IRON PEACE SHINE!!!

edit: btw I had some little chat with yCh not too long ago, he doesn't seem too confident about his match :[
Even tho he said he really likes ZvT!
And I told him 3x to drone scout cause go.go is a cheesy biaaaatch.
Hope he wins, that kid is so cool, he was like A- 2 seasons ago and now he literally exploded into... something new... KaL brings out a shitload of potential...
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7760 Posts
September 28 2009 10:28 GMT
#62
Really cool to get a write up for this. Thanks guys :D
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
September 28 2009 10:35 GMT
#63
nice read, you didn't have enough surprises in your predictions though, i think we'll see many new names make it through these groups.
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
September 28 2009 14:10 GMT
#64
5 Tosspics out of 40 spots, with them benig 2x Gosl, 2x Reach and 1x Guemchi... doesnt look good for protoss =)
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
September 28 2009 16:35 GMT
#65
On September 28 2009 04:02 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2009 03:54 Musoeun wrote:
On September 28 2009 03:46 Jenia6109 wrote:
On September 28 2009 03:34 Zato-1 wrote:
Does this mean (P)BeSt isn't even trying to break into the MSL this time?

Huh, really!!! Where is he???


If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say he's T1's highest-ranked player not already seeded, and thus gets into the MSL due to the goofy-ass new rules.

Well, if that was the case, he'd make it into the 48-man Survivor tournament, only half of which make it into the actual MSL.


I get confused with the formats. As far as I'm concerned, the MST is part of "the MSL" since it gets televised. I guess I should have been more specific though.
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UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
September 28 2009 16:48 GMT
#66
question! so this is the first time i will watch the prelims, how long does it go for? im on east coast, so the event starts at like 9pm i think, so there will be games for HOURS and HOURS? holy shit im excited. im so staying up all night ^^
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Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
September 28 2009 17:45 GMT
#67
sAviOr automatically gets in? I didnt see him on the offline list
and lol wtf maestro vs firebathero? Firebathero needs to qualify so sAviOr can get revenge.
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FakeKisser
Profile Joined September 2008
United States159 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-28 19:39:29
September 28 2009 19:39 GMT
#68
Great write-up. FBH is the only person that I really need to make it out.
"Every generation needs a revolution" - Thomas Jefferson
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
September 28 2009 21:33 GMT
#69
On September 29 2009 01:48 UGC4 wrote:
question! so this is the first time i will watch the prelims, how long does it go for? im on east coast, so the event starts at like 9pm i think, so there will be games for HOURS and HOURS? holy shit im excited. im so staying up all night ^^

It typically goes from 10:00 KST to like 21:00/22:00 KST so yeah ... it'll be going on for a while.
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UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
September 28 2009 22:18 GMT
#70
wowwwww 11 hours of professional starcraft preliminary matches??? awesome means i'll be up from 9pm to 8am lol. thx btw
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Excalibur
Profile Joined September 2009
United States58 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-28 22:25:46
September 28 2009 22:23 GMT
#71
Sea and Flying are two guys I'm going to be keeping an eye on, especially Flying, kids crazy.
Whats a 4pool?
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
September 29 2009 00:18 GMT
#72
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for aMeBa, and I'm interested if Last can put up a fight versus Yarnc.

Also, if lucifer wins against Hydra, I'm afraid we won't be seeing Firebathero this MSL!
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 29 2009 00:48 GMT
#73
On September 29 2009 02:45 Mobius wrote:
sAviOr automatically gets in? I didnt see him on the offline list
and lol wtf maestro vs firebathero? Firebathero needs to qualify so sAviOr can get revenge.

Wha? Savior has never been in offline prelims since uh... 2004? 2005?
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
September 29 2009 01:18 GMT
#74
sAviOr hasn't had to play in the MSL/MST prelims since 2003 (his first and only MSL prelim). That's pretty crazy.
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Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
September 29 2009 02:20 GMT
#75
I hope some lesser known players get some spotlight on them this time. Watching the same players dominate is pretty boring after a while... unless if it's Bisu that is. ;D
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dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
October 02 2009 16:35 GMT
#76
Really nice reading!
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