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First, i know people are upset about the veteran "plan"- but lynching them out of spite isn't the way to go, someone said, "the best thing for now is to avoid them"
Yes, ignore the veterans for Day 1, we need to focus on the organizing the lynch counts.
also, no mafia would be retarded enough to attack multiple people - or in the aggressive manner that bEsT[Alive] is, and draw streams of attention to themselves, as well as lynch votes , in this case.
Look at the votes on bEsT[Alive] (PsychoFish's Post)
On August 03 2009 22:54 StoneForest wrote:
I vote for bEsT[Alive]
On August 03 2009 22:54 mOceaNu wrote:
I vote for bEsT[Alive]
I have my reasons.
I see 2 votes for best in under a minute with no reasons posted.
On August 03 2009 23:08 Azura wrote:
Looks like the mob is using the acridity of best's posts as an excuse to vote for him.
Do you know how much information we get from lynching bEsT[Alive] ? Nothing, because myself and everyone else can claim we were trying to lynch an inactive.( if we were mafia that is ) However, if you lynch OneSnakeOnATrain and he flips RED, bam you've got 3 prime suspects, currently voting for bEsT[Alive]
So again, please ignore the veteran's and don't lynch them out of spite. Possibly they have a good plan on revealing behavioral analysis and being extremely helpful to the town(?) or they were townies posing as veterans(?)- doubtful but still a possibility.
Instead, please lynch OneSnakeOnATrain, and Pyrr can you confirm if he has access to the forum?
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Its fairly obvious after we have 2 pseudo confirmed veterans, we're going to force everyone to roleclaim, which pushes mafia into overtly playing blue or being herded into the green portion of town. If they claim blue, and the town does its job, we should have 33% mafia lists which are prime targets for DT checks.
The method mafia has of stopping it involves them dumping KP into veterans early game, which is horrible for them. If certain roles aren't fake claimed, by day 2 there should be a number of other confirmed townies who can continue the job.
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I agree with SatouxKisei. Although getting no informatin out of bests lynch would be a lie. Clearly the mafia would say he was a dick excuse more or less. but we still have a vote list and people acting odd. The only reason I would vote for best now is because abrasive posting annoys me.
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On August 04 2009 05:50 MafiaAreJerks wrote:
Its fairly obvious after we have 2 pseudo confirmed veterans, we're going to force everyone to roleclaim, which pushes mafia into overtly playing blue or being herded into the green portion of town. If they claim blue, and the town does its job, we should have 33% mafia lists which are prime targets for DT checks.
The method mafia has of stopping it involves them dumping KP into veterans early game, which is horrible for them. If certain roles aren't fake claimed, by day 2 there should be a number of other confirmed townies who can continue the job.
The problem with Rolechecks is the fact that mafia can use "Cover" which would make an actual Veteran appear Mafia, and the Godfather, who would appear Veteran.
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Although getting no informatin out of bests lynch would be a lie.
Eh my bad. And even now, voting because he is abrasive doesn't hold any water with me.
Anyways, i'm hoping we can avoid them both for now- if OneSnake makes a post sometime to convince us otherwise.
there are a couple better suspects
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Yeah acidic beat me to it. Not to mention the added variable of Miller's. So I dunno if things will go quite the way MAJ is envisioning.
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Even if someone turns mafia because he was covered, mafia need to predict which blue stack they're going to cover, and the now organized town can simply opt to rolecheck based on voter lists and behavioral information.
Its pretty bullshit to pretend that cover and millers make the act of forcing mafia into boxes anything less than powerful. Infallible? Sure. Powerful? Absolutely. Mafia need to false claim a number of blues or lose the game nearly immediately.
Are you honestly saying you wouldn't want to have a 1 in 3 ASSURED list with a mafia member in it to help with clues, behavioral analysis and rolechecks?
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so yeah , there isn't a 3rd veteran claiming?
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Alas! fellow townies I fear we are making a grave mistake! What has OneSnakeOnATrain done to be worthy of such a lynch? Inactivity. However we have yet to know whether he has access to the forum or not. Thus it only makes sense in the confusing chaos of the veterans that OneSnakeOnATrain live to see another day!
But what choice do we have? I have chosen to vote for blanket, and stay with my vote I shall, unless a more compelling argument should arise. For we see, blanket and OneSnakeOnATrain do have inactivity problems. Fear not! For blanket has accomplished a feat OneSnakeOnATrain has yet to do: vote. OneSnakeOnATrain can claim he had no access to the forum. Obviously the truth will remain concealed. blanket by no means has that excuse, as he has voted!
Suspicious indeed, lynching OneSnakeOnATrain has received quite a bandwagon...only the foul hearted mafia could be behind such a disasterous deed!
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Like i said before, if he would kindly post or Pyrr confirm he doesn't have access(and he will extend the game) - i would easily take my vote off him.
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What reason is there to lynching OneSnakeOnATrain over blanket? You would do well to find an argument, less you be on the chopping block next!
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are you kidding? i just said, i'm waiting for him to post- if he doesn't post and pyrr confirms he has access then he's even more so inactive then blanket is.
it's like you don't know how to read.
Also, not that i need an "argument"(you're using my own damn argument about inactivity as an excuse anyways?), but i think bEsT[Alive] isn't mafia so im keeping him alive.
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I mean really is that all you do, copy? First you copied sacrifice's post with godfather roles, medic list, and confirmed town, but far be it for you to actually contribute. "OH hey guys you should all do these things, and help the town out, but im not going to actually contribute anything"
maybe it looks all nice and innocent to everyone else but not me.
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I might just abstain for the entire day. I do not think any leads are strong enough to vote. That being said, I really hope OneSnake gets online. I would vote OneSnake to keep best[alive] away from being lynched, but I am somewhat suspicious of him as well, so I see no need for me to do anything but abstain.
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On August 04 2009 07:35 SatouxKisei wrote:
I mean really is that all you do, copy? First you copied sacrifice's post with godfather roles, medic list, and confirmed town, but far be it for you to actually contribute. "OH hey guys you should all do these things, and help the town out, but im not going to actually contribute anything"
maybe it looks all nice and innocent to everyone else but not me.
Pray, tell me what have you done worth contributing? Sacrifice is a genuine contributor, and anything good he says is burried under the rubble of the landslide from the veteran roleclaims. At the current rate, OneSnakeOnATrain will be modkilled to the depths of hell. Wasting an ever precious town lynch on someone who is going to get modkilled is folly indeed.
And now what have I done to upset you so? Anger and haste shall lead to the deaths of innocence! But please, correct me if my interpretation is wrong. True it is; I have done minimal contributing, but the rest of the townsfolk are riding the same path to destruction as I am. I do not believe it in the interest of the town for bEst to die, less a compelling argument should strike the minds of the town.
All I ask is to off the head of a true inactive, not someone who has the chance of a cruel death to modkill. It is quite clear, when, if at all, OneSnakeOnATrain joins our illustrious town, he will say "Sorry, didn't have access." What plan do you have when this happens? Are you still going to vote for him?
But yes! I will be at fault, should he come back and remain inactive. Then your vote will be as justified as mine, and my speak shall be for naught. For the benefit of the town, I hope you do not continue to seek this grudge against me, less we behead more innocent townspeople.
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smurf reporting in.
didn't even realize the game started until now.
will try to get caught up as soon as possible
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Uh, wow. Just wow. It's been ~ 48 hours?
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What does everyone think of StoneForest as a lynch candidate? A random video post + a vote for Best seems fishy, especially since it can be temptingly easy to vote for him.
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You can't fault people voting for Best. The way he has played is so crazy people will naturally want him dead. Likewise that plan you came up with is very anti-town and you're suspect #2.
However LayoffRage is who should be getting votes right now. He hasn't even responded to the questions I raised earlier and any innocent pro-town player with nothing to hide would have. If this is truly a Vet game I think he was trying to force the Vet plan subtely by going along with it easily, hoping other townies bought into it.
Between Miller roles and Godfather that Veteran plan is too convenient and would have given the Mafia access to a lot of information and the ability to escape justice. I think everyone should really be looking at how this plan came about and the first set of people to support it.
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Vatican City State15 Posts
best alive is not mafia
Look at him. No mafia would just paint themselves the center of attention like that. Killing the people who vote for him is a much better idea. how bout we decide on one of the ppl voting for mr best and kill them. ill be helping out with some clue analysis in a min or two
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