EPT[GG] Mafia XII - The Summer Season - Page 62
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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Foolishness
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 17 2009 08:31 Malongo wrote: Sooo sick. Lol and i thought i was playing bad. Hey mamma im mafia can we vote ydg all togheter at the same time...??? Phyrr I never tried to defend chaoser, clues to him were just garbage and you know that. Please believe me: Lenwe is pledge because IM TOWNIEEEE ahahahah goddamnit how the hell im gonna tell you guys im not mafia... lololololllllll. WAIT there is a way i can prove im townie, im not kidding LOLOLOLOLOL i will come back with this idea in 30 minutes because this can be autogg even if we lost all important roles today: Remember weather? we can use the weather to separate people in certain number of groups to check if all the people that say that have a vote does really have it LOL this could work... I've thought about that, but it's not gonna work because inactive townies /mafia could fuck it up and, on top of that, it could be a great way to give away the DT. | ||
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Infundibulum
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Pyrrhuloxia
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On July 17 2009 08:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Well I guess I'll wait to see the plan and hope it's not an elaborate plot to keep us off fog. Does fog still even do anything now that chaoser was a pledge? Pretty sure it won't lower kp at all and that from here on we should be voting snow. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 17 2009 08:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Does fog still even do anything now that chaoser was a pledge? Pretty sure it won't lower kp at all and that from here on we should be voting snow. Actually you're right. 1 + .5 + .5 even if the two .5s are pledges they still get two. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On July 17 2009 08:48 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Oh I get it, we could have like Malongo vote for one weather and then no one else vote for any weather and see what happened. But if he's red, especially GF, that's an extra KP for day and could mean the difference between win or loss for us, especially if we end up with no weather or a weather we can't use, which is most of them. In any case, this plan means we have to potentially waste our lynch and wait an extra day to see if our top suspect can change weather or not. Wrong. First of all weather is almost useless now for us: Theres 1 mafia, 1 pledge and 1 GF alive (from foolishness math i think dont remember well). So sunny is idiot, fog gives us nothing mafia kp will be always 2 even if we lynch GF (see next point) we dont have angels. The only weather that has value for us is snow (LOL). If we lynch GF then other mafia takes the rol so mafia KP will be always 2 until theres only one mafia. Second I retire what i said about Lenwe, he can be townie for now because i assumed chaoser was GF (being chaoser GF meant theres one pledge between me and Lenwe but chaoser himself was the pledge). So the only thing I can do to prove myself 100% green is to ask town to not vote weather for the day and I vote snow. If the weather doesnt turn snow im mafia plain and simple. Unfortunately that means other townies would want to prove themself townies as well and im the main suspect now. Man im feeling so stupid now should have done this today. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 17 2009 09:07 Malongo wrote: mafia kp will be always 2 even if we lynch GF Nope, 3 mafia 1 + .5 + .5 = 2 if we kill GF, KP is down to 1 On July 17 2009 09:07 Malongo wrote: mafia kp will be always 2 even if we lynch GF If we lynch GF then other mafia takes the rol so mafia KP will be always 2 until theres only one mafia. Nope again, "If you are killed by an Assassin, your role will be transferred to another Mafia member." Lynch perma-kills the GF. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On July 17 2009 09:07 Malongo wrote: If we lynch GF then other mafia takes the rol so mafia KP will be always 2 until theres only one mafia. Actually, I'm pretty sure God Father's dead completely if we lynch him. The role gets passed on only if the assassin killed him. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On July 17 2009 09:15 Falcynn wrote: Actually, I'm pretty sure God Father's dead completely if we lynch him. The role gets passed on only if the assassin killed him. Right missread that. Mmmm. Shit. Seems like im going to be the cause of the lose. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97002¤tpage=4 | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 17 2009 09:28 Malongo wrote: I can only ask townies to review my day 2 voting list. If mafia put 5 votes (at least) to save truthbringer why didnt I change my vote? Take in mind that im the 5th voter for truthbringer and that the count is 12 // 11 truthbringer over ydg and then come the last 2 votes to truthbringer. If im mafia why didnt I change my vote? Please review this well before looking me red. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97002¤tpage=4 Maybe you spread yours out because you are GF? Also, you could say the same thing about anyone voting for TruthBringer, its like the only vote of yours that has ended up the right way. If we go by what you're saying, that every mafia would have changed their vote to ydg, we'd have to lynch ilovekt and falcynn, the remaining two ydg voters. Yet iLoveKT led the charge against chaoser and I'd bet falcynn is innocent, too. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On July 17 2009 09:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Maybe you spread yours out because you are GF? Also, you could say the same thing about anyone voting for TruthBringer, its like the only vote of yours that has ended up the right way. If we go by what you're saying, that every mafia would have changed their vote to ydg, we'd have to lynch ilovekt and falcynn, the remaining two ydg voters. Yet iLoveKT led the charge against chaoser and I'd bet falcynn is innocent, too. Yeah i see your point. Sadly you are playing with something i dont manage: I dont know who is in contact with Scaramanga and the Mystic. I dont know who is the mystic. I dont know who was rolechecked by the mystic. And last this was not the best move for the GF to come up to lynch BC, to call first to lynch faronel (based on a very likely clue) and last if im the godfather believe me: I wouldnt have come to "defend" chaoser like you try to put me (in fact i never said he wasnt mafia i said his clues were garbage). Put yourself in the position, why to call to lynch ilovekt like that over chaoser? No im not mafia. Just read my posts, read all mafia posts and you will see that theres 0 chance im mafia. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
Sorry if this may look out of order. I just copy pasted this from my pms. lol. 1st pm: iNfuNdiBuLuM could be mafia. from one of his posts: PEOPLE TO KEEP AN EYE ON (READ: SHADY MOFOS): Pyrr Foolishness Heav0nEarth Faronel StorZerg (no reds) PROBABLY INNOCENT ecomania ydg motbob malongo (suspect) bockit Lenwe (suspect) Votes: L for emperor. Voted to lynch Truthbringer but I think that is just for show because TB wouldve be lynched regardless. Voted for kuja and faronel. (double lynch) theory: he voted for kuja to save ecomania and didnt want to appear in the votelist for BC, so he used his other vote to faronel, who at that time didnt have anyone voting him. No Votes for Days 4 and 5. Voted immediately for me after malongo started getting warfreak about me voting chaoser. More analysis: On July 11 2009 15:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2009 15:42 Foolishness wrote: On July 11 2009 15:40 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: What's the number or mafia/pledge again? I don't think there'd by any way to tell whether kuja is mafia/pledge short of playing the odds. Or is there another way to figure it out? the problem with voting snow is that towns' clue analysis has been less than subpar so far. voting snow today would give assassins a better clueset for sunny tomorrow, which, I concede, is a good point. Right now there are 3 pledges and 2 mafioso's alive. And 1 godfather so 1+1+1+1.5 rounded down = 4. Ok, got it. Someone who asks that question just smells mafia to me. Trying to look like you have no idea. you get my point right? Some of his quotes: Yeah, I posted before the BC lynch that I thought motbob and ecomania were green, but that was because I thought BC was red. Sorry for missing the votes today. Nice job guys. ====================================================== If not motbob i think Faronel is a sure bet for mafia based on voting patterns and maybe even clues. ====================================================== Man, even though I had some last second doubts about Faronel, I was pretty sure we were right. My skills this game have been lacking (understatement). I'm writing up a long analysis of the clues in the Day posts, i.e. which mafias are alive/dead and what clues appear to point to whom. It'll be up in a few hours, cause I gotta do some errands and stuff first. note: he never wrote that long analysis. ====================================================== On July 16 2009 11:17 chaoser wrote: wow guys, nice bandwagon, not mafia like at all. why is everyone voting for me? no clues on me, i have one vote that's suspicious and even that i explained. in a good two hours i've already got 6 votes on me and barely any on anyone else. his reply: qfmft Scaramanga please change your vote to iLoveKT, since we all know you're innocent ====================================================== Clasic iLoveKT Lenwe Chezinu i think note: if he is really mafia, which i think he is, these 4 guys are safe most probably. ======================================================= I'll just say this: if I had to pick out of malongo, chaoser, and lenwe, I'd pick Lenwe. ====================================================== -end. Fellow townsmen, as I MAY not be able to see the light of day again, please lynch iNfuNdiBuLuM and on we shall go towards VICTORY!!! | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
my clue post is on page 56. i am green. yes, i have been wrong about every person who i thought was innocent/guilty. a big part of this is was sure that BC was red - just like a lot of other people. That 'probably innocent/people to keep an eye on' post was made when i though bc was red for sure. did you forget that it was me who called out Bc's shitty analysis on ydg? | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
Redtooth (angel) says he has a plan during day 1 but is light on details. Unfortunately for us, that kind of telegraphs blue. Infundibulum and chaoser badger him for more details. Foolishness on Day 2 sees something fishy about infundibulum's defense of ydg: "iNfuNdiBuLuM, you have abstained from voting thus far. If you really think ydg is innocent, why have you not taken any direct action against it? The vote (at least right now) is close and you have yet to accuse anyone else or suggest that someone else be lynched instead of ydg. That being said, the summary of your post here reads, "We should not listen to BC, but I could care less who dies". It seems to me you are against BC, not against ydg being lynched." Infundibulum day 2: "And yes, at this point I think ydg is innocent. I would prefer not lynch him. If he does get lynched, his alignment will play a large part in how we think about BC." Looks like he wants to leverage ydg's innocence to get BC killed. Also, look how fast anyone who call him out as a lynch target dies: Caller comes into the game and immediately tells us to kill infundibulum, and we all know how long he lasted in the game: --------BEGIN CALLER QUOTES guys guys guys i say we kill infundibulum "Satisfied with a job well done, the Mafioso signalled to his colleagues that the Control Room was secure." "Elemenope had been alerted to their activities moments ago upon hearing the prolonged roar which had come from the control tower, which then prompted him to look outside his window which overlooked the entire factory." infundibulum has a tuba in his profile, which when played could definitely be construed as a loud roar. Plus, what else could make that signal? also, his posts in the thread are junk either pontificating about ydg or worrying about stupid fears that are unlikely and are beyond his control. Rather than clue identify, which is his normal townie modus operandi, he's doing some different shit. Lynch him. -------END CALLER QUOTES On July 10 2009 04:08 redtooth wrote: While Pyrr is mulling over the gravity of my offer, let's do brainstorm some clue analysis. CLUE ANALYSIS PART 1 Let's have a look at the profile of iNfuNdiBuLuM. The first thing you see is a man carrying a large Tuba. Forget that for now, there doesn't seem to be any link to that in the clues so far. However, scroll down more and you get to see two animated gifs of figures laughing gleefully while dressed up in what we would define as "curious garbs".![[image loading]](http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:qRMcb4JjXVJrTM:http://www.floatingbanana.com/artbackwash/billymays2.png) But that's not all! And redtooth dies that night. Also notice this from Plexa's rules: Clues can be taken from anywhere. They could come from profiles, signatures or even posts made from inside the game. I hadn't even noticed that until I saw a post heavonearth made about it on Day 1. Maybe that's the source of all the confusion and fuck-ups we've been making clue wise. Perhaps the lumberjack beard refers to the Billy Mays picture that redtooth put in the middle of his analysis of infundibulum? On July 09 2009 02:34 inertinept wrote: are you trying to act like mafia? people are already suspicious of you... fog halves the killing power of PLEDGES and we got rid of a MAFIA, fog is actually very good. add to the fact that we really dont need vote list checks this early and it guarantees a low kill night while we gather up more information. how is fog bad again? Inerptinept didn't die that night, but the next, probably because mafia was busy sniping the DT, and getting the priest, plus killing L to make BC look bad. They killed caller that night and they didn't use up all 5 KP, maybe inertinept was blocked that night. infundibulum goes after BC, but then retracts his vote at basically the last second when it can have no effect on the outcome, probably thinking no one would look at him in the fallout since he wasn't on the final roll call. Notice chaoser came in at the last moment of the day and made a post defending BC, he probably would have gone against BC and voted for BC had BC started to get off the chopping block. Also notice that infundibulum keeps posting the final voting tallies without any switches noted. ----Malongo: ...please rolcheck one of this guys: Scaramanga Infundibulum Pyrrhuloxia --- Maybe they put cover on me or scaramanga so we looked red and infundi is GF so they figured they had a 2/3rd chance of creating a town fuck-up? Malongo never explains why he picks those 3. LucasWoJ calls out infundibulum as his #1 target based on voting analysis and dies that night. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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