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The thing is even if you guys decide to lynch me, you'll have a small shot at winning as long as you don't miss any others. But I can't let that happen when the game is this close.
I'm sadly not surprised to see this coming from you, Pyrr. You've been the king of making crap analysis all game - yes, even worse than me. Would you like me to remind everyone how you were so sure Kuja was red? How you were so sure that redtooth was a "stupid pledge"? What about Falcynn, as person that I (yes, me) practically proved was innocent and even pointed this out to you so the town could look elsewhere for suspects? What about BC, who you campaigned against until Foolishness changed your mind?
My point here isn't necessarily that your red, but that you've either made a humungous amount of missed calls or have just been throwing out false suspects for the town to chase after. You also backed down super fucking fast after other people questioned your analysis of those players.
I guarantee you the remaining 3 mafia are reading your and KT's posts and jumping with joy.
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"prolonged roar" could refer to the "sounds of the earth" from infundibulum's profile because it is a natural sound and that was a pretty early clue. The word "sound" was used on day 1, that might have been the only clue (I know I used only 1 word clues on my day 1 post).
I'm gonna be honest, I'm not sure which mafia infundibulum is, but he's obviously one of them.
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On July 17 2009 13:24 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Let's see, infundi begins suggesting the strategy of fog day 1 and then snow day 2, thank god we didn't do that with how bad we've been led around on clue analysis after the success with TruthBringer.
Redtooth (angel) says he has a plan during day 1 but is light on details. Unfortunately for us, that kind of telegraphs blue. Infundibulum and chaoser badger him for more details.
I can't believe I'm gonna have to take the time to wade through this.
...Because I knew how Plexa's clue writing would be from the very beginning of the game. Is that what you're trying to say?
Nobody liked redtooths plan, because all he said was "lets vote sunny, I have an idea but I won't share it!!!" Who would agree with that? How is it at all suspicious that anyone would ask him to elaborate on such a thing, when it could obviously influence a townie to vote for something stupid?
Foolishness on Day 2 sees something fishy about infundibulum's defense of ydg:
"iNfuNdiBuLuM, you have abstained from voting thus far. If you really think ydg is innocent, why have you not taken any direct action against it? The vote (at least right now) is close and you have yet to accuse anyone else or suggest that someone else be lynched instead of ydg.
That being said, the summary of your post here reads, "We should not listen to BC, but I could care less who dies". It seems to me you are against BC, not against ydg being lynched."
Infundibulum day 2:
"And yes, at this point I think ydg is innocent. I would prefer not lynch him. If he does get lynched, his alignment will play a large part in how we think about BC."
Looks like he wants to leverage ydg's innocence to get BC killed.
1. I explained to Foolishness why i had abstained (I didn't read the thread and abstained before I went to sleep.
2. I wanted to leverage ydg's innocence to get BC killed? Where the hell do you come up with this garbage? BC made a GIANT post about how ydg was 'surely' red. I called him out on it and explained why his anaylysis was bunk (WHY WOULD I DO THAT IF I WERE RED). If ydg had been lynched that day and flipped green, the town would have clamored for BC's head. It's not rocket science dude. If ydg had flipped red instead, people would have been saying "oh I guess BC was doing a good job after all."
Also, look how fast anyone who call him out as a lynch target dies: Caller comes into the game and immediately tells us to kill infundibulum, and we all know how long he lasted in the game: --------BEGIN CALLER QUOTES guys guys guys i say we kill infundibulum "Satisfied with a job well done, the Mafioso signalled to his colleagues that the Control Room was secure." "Elemenope had been alerted to their activities moments ago upon hearing the prolonged roar which had come from the control tower, which then prompted him to look outside his window which overlooked the entire factory." infundibulum has a tuba in his profile, which when played could definitely be construed as a loud roar. Plus, what else could make that signal? also, his posts in the thread are junk either pontificating about ydg or worrying about stupid fears that are unlikely and are beyond his control. Rather than clue identify, which is his normal townie modus operandi, he's doing some different shit. Lynch him. -------END CALLER QUOTES Show nested quote +On July 10 2009 04:08 redtooth wrote:While Pyrr is mulling over the gravity of my offer, let's do brainstorm some clue analysis. CLUE ANALYSIS PART 1 On July 09 2009 19:39 Plexa wrote:
While walking through the last and only park on their journey home they heard a strange but faint laughter. A twig behind them snapped. They panicked- Caller turned and ran as fast as he could, while So no fek was petrified and could not move. The Mafioso stepped forward and ensured that So no fek would no longer be able to move. As he was running, Caller heard the laughter again, but more clearer. He looked up into the trees and a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree, but stumbled on the landing and fell over. To Callers’s surprise he burst out laughing. Not willing to take a chance, Caller backed away but his leg got caught in a trap and was hoisted into the air helpless. Let's have a look at the profile of iNfuNdiBuLuM. The first thing you see is a man carrying a large Tuba. Forget that for now, there doesn't seem to be any link to that in the clues so far. However, scroll down more and you get to see two animated gifs of figures laughing gleefully while dressed up in what we would define as "curious garbs". Let's take a look at Caller's post a while back. On July 08 2009 21:22 Caller wrote:guys guys guys i say we kill infundibulum Satisfied with a job well done, the Mafioso signalled to his colleagues that the Control Room was secure. Elemenope had been alerted to their activities moments ago upon hearing the prolonged roar which had come from the control tower, which then prompted him to look outside his window which overlooked the entire factory. infundibulum has a tuba in his profile, which when played could definitely be construed as a loud roar. Plus, what else could make that signal? cool, cool. some more evidence of a link. oh yeah, caller died btw. he had almost no information because he only recently entered the game. he was replacing aarav who could just as easily have been mafia because of all the clue analysis linking to him. why would it benefit mafia to kill caller? because of this post. And redtooth dies that night.
I don't even know what to say about this. You think the entire reason a player died is because they made one speculative post about a clue that could link to me? Even after I rebuked the clue analysis - and was right?
Also notice this from Plexa's rules:
Clues can be taken from anywhere. They could come from profiles, signatures or even posts made from inside the game.
I hadn't even noticed that until I saw a post heavonearth made about it on Day 1. Maybe that's the source of all the confusion and fuck-ups we've been making clue wise. Perhaps the lumberjack beard refers to the Billy Mays picture that redtooth put in the middle of his analysis of infundibulum?
I guarantee you this is not the case.
Show nested quote +On July 09 2009 02:34 inertinept wrote:On July 09 2009 02:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Ugh why did people vote fog? This could be bad :\
Caller, the way I interpreted that writing was that the "roar" was either the roar of gunfire or an alarm, not the mafioso's signal. Especially since it's described as "prolonged". It is a funky word choice though, I'll give you that. are you trying to act like mafia? people are already suspicious of you... fog halves the killing power of PLEDGES and we got rid of a MAFIA, fog is actually very good. add to the fact that we really dont need vote list checks this early and it guarantees a low kill night while we gather up more information. how is fog bad again? Inerptinept didn't die that night, but the next, probably because mafia was busy sniping the DT, and getting the priest, plus killing L to make BC look bad. They killed caller that night and they didn't use up all 5 KP, maybe inertinept was blocked that night.
You're missing the essence of this exchange. This was the night where I urged everyone to vote rain in order to protect the priest from the suicide bomber. Lynch post came up and the weather was Fog, and I posted the above, which inertinept replied to. I then explained to him why rain was the safe, conservative play, and that it was the proper choice given our information. Then guess what happened? Judge got bombed, because people didn't fucking vote for rain. Also, the mafia didn't kill L to make BC look bad (he already looked bad enough), they killed him because he was smart and on point.
infundibulum goes after BC, but then retracts his vote at basically the last second when it can have no effect on the outcome, probably thinking no one would look at him in the fallout since he wasn't on the final roll call. Notice chaoser came in at the last moment of the day and made a post defending BC, he probably would have gone against BC and voted for BC had BC started to get off the chopping block. Also notice that infundibulum keeps posting the final voting tallies without any switches noted.
I retracted my vote for BC after reading his defenses. I was sure at first, like a lot of other innocent people, that he was red. Sucks that it was at the last second, but what can I do? And if you want to go through the vote threads and compile all the switches, please be my guest. I took the time to compile the vote lists from every Day and update them with the dead players. I don't see you or anyone else bothering to provide easily accessible information to the town - so don't bitch if i didn't list the vote switches.
----Malongo:
...please rolcheck one of this guys:
Scaramanga
Infundibulum
Pyrrhuloxia
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Maybe they put cover on me or scaramanga so we looked red and infundi is GF so they figured they had a 2/3rd chance of creating a town fuck-up? Malongo never explains why he picks those 3.
So how does this implicate me at all when it's malongo's weird post that I had nothing to do with. I dunno why he inexplicably listed me. Maybe you should ask him!
LucasWoJ calls out infundibulum as his #1 target based on voting analysis and dies that night.
And you were on that list too, and Lucas died that! Scandal!
Dude, if you are town please get your head out of your ass or we will lose the game.
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It's true that I've made mistakes, but while I've worked to fix them you haven't. Kuja linked really damn well, I didn't see anyone else presenting a good case for the second lynch to go along with ecomania and we've only found one red vote on him so far. I fucked up on BC even after foolishness tried to stop me, but at least I was honest about what my opinion was, you say you want to save BC but throw out a single vote at Faronel and one on Kuja instead, neatly putting your votes anywhere but where they could help BC or hurt ecomania. Same thing with YDG, you run up posts about why he's innocent to build up early game cred, but don't vote TB until you absolutely have to do it. Day 4, we lynched two reds and you apparently didn't see a single target worth going after and didn't vote.
It's true you helped clear falcynn's name, but then what do you use that to do? Try to guilt trip him into pulling his vote off of chaoser:
"look at the fucking voting
notice that so many people voting for him have not even come in the thread to say why
does this not strike anyone as weird
falcynn i know you are green why can't you see this?"
to which chaoser adds:
"THANK YOU
most of those people who voted haven't been activate at ALL in the game. most have said one to two things that have no meaning. atleast i defended BC before he was to be lynched."
Same thing with scaramanga:
"Scaramanga please change your vote to iLoveKT, since we all know you're innocent"
As if "I know you're innocent" is a reason to vote for iLoveKT, especially since the only people that can be 100.00000000% sure who is innocent are mafia. Classic mafia maneuver there, LucasWoJ got me with it last game.
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Well who do you suggest we go after? Pray tell us who will be confirmed innocent if you turn red?
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Yeah I know I was wrong about chaoser. And that i tried to convince people to vote otherwise. Looks pretty bad doesn't it? All I can say is that I made a mistake (something you should know a bit about this game  ) and that I was wrong. But dude, you and me and everyone else know that Clasic's, GoodWill's, and HeavOnEarth's drive by votes for chaoser were weird. Lucky for chaoser that he could play such stupidity to his advantage.
Same thing with Faronel - I fucked up. His last minute, single vote on BC (in a double lynch) made me almost positive that he was mafia that came in to ensure the emporer died. There were also clues on him which sort-of lined up, which I was satisfied with given Plexa's writing style.
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On July 17 2009 14:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Well who do you suggest we go after? Pray tell us who will be confirmed innocent if you turn red?
To go after? I already Pm'd you that when you asked me, but i'll post it here:
Original Message: (me)
i've kinda hit a wall and need to take a break for a bit, but
malongo - behavior.
BWDero - clues
iLoveKT is an interesting case, especially how he just popped up right when he started to get votes. his voting record is pretty bad early on though. i think i was wrong about him and that he's green.
lenwe - maybe. he really might just be green.
after that i just don't know. i've been horribly wrong about a lot of people this game so i don't want to point fingers right now.
what about you?
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Original Message: (pyrr)
who do you think we should go after from here on out?
Who will be confirmed innocent if I flip red? I haven't given much thought to such a scenario because I'm green, but if I somehow turned red overnight it would look pretty good for you and KT.
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On July 17 2009 14:27 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
But dude, you and me and everyone else know that Clasic's, GoodWill's, and HeavOnEarth's drive by votes for chaoser were weird. Lucky for chaoser that he could play such stupidity to his advantage.
Pray tell why we should be more suspicious of those three because they did a "drive-by" on a red? That's our goal. And chaoser wasn't lucky that he could play it to his advantage because at the end of the day only you were voting for him.
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They could have easily put those same votes alongside yours to put chaoser out of harms way.
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Alright, well, tell you what. I don't want Malongo's bungling to get lost in this shuffle but I still think iLoveKT made an awesome case that I found a lot to go along with. You sent me your suspect ideas before we called you out so, why don't we start with where we the three of us agree and see what happens.
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Clasic was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Last Romantic.
That account was created on 2009-01-15 05:53:48 and had 1144 posts.
Reason: You've been warned eight goddamn times, and your entire post history still consists of trash mindless content-free quotes. You'd think after reading the updated Commandments a poster would be smarter than that.
Something to note.
I know am I green (and yes, I also know I am a bad green). As for arguing who to lynch next, I'll wait for the day post.
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LOL IM A BLUE, I KILLED MOTBOB HARHARHAR, LYNCH INFILI THE SCUM
The fact that STRAIGHT after lucas called you out he was killed, ggnore mafia
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On July 17 2009 08:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Wait is that 2 before or after fog? Before, and After
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Plexa i must say, this is the closest mafia game ive ever seen even if all the vets said imba imba
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its because the town has such great abilities the mafia have a hard time killing everyone v_v
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On July 17 2009 20:31 Ace wrote:
its because the town has such great abilities the mafia have a hard time killing everyone v_v
Ace stop taking the piss
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On July 17 2009 21:18 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2009 20:31 Ace wrote:
its because the town has such great abilities the mafia have a hard time killing everyone v_v Ace stop taking the piss
Agreed
+ Show Spoiler +HE SHOULD BE WARDING THE FUCKING JUNGLE
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Right now im just witing to see the mafia targets. Since there are 3 mafia alive and 2 will hit this will be most revealing about them. And for the list I proposed
Scaramanga
Infundibulum
Pyrr
I just think those guys have been veteran enough and active enough this game to not get hit from mafia, so when i wrote the list I was looking for an angel for the mystic or mafia.
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On July 17 2009 20:31 Ace wrote:
its because the town has such great abilities the mafia have a hard time killing everyone v_v
Annoying. I thought the forum was going to be private exaclty to prevent this. Get out.
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