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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:49 GMT
#1361
You know what? The very fact that so many people are last minute switching to Ace convinces me. I hate bandwagons. Sorry Ver, but you didn't follow up with your PMs.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 21 2009 03:50 GMT
#1362
JAKIRO HAS SO MUCH HP.

You dying is more like you initiating with earthshaker. You might die and be innocent and have played properly, but the town gains even if that's the case.

I know people switching now are suspicious. I think when Vivi and Tricode vote it will be suspicious either way. That's exactly why I need to know who is who, so I can go back and decode WHY people have been acting the way they are.

If some sketchy mafia are trying to get you killed, I can CONFIRM THAT post death. As for the speed of our killing, if you're 100% certain Dream and Ver are mafia, we chop KP for Night 3 regardless of how you flip.

There is NO downside to this. We trade a double lynch for a VAST amount of information.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 21 2009 03:52 GMT
#1363
And caller, the sketchiness of what you just did is pretty fucking off the charts.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 21 2009 03:52 GMT
#1364
I didn't have bracers cuz I'm noob though :/

and you know CM is a fucking whore too so I couldn't run either.

But yea go go go avenge my possible death!

and Incog where has Qatol confirmed he will modkill Ver and how does that "prove" anything?

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 04:03:33
May 21 2009 03:54 GMT
#1365
Qatol says:
i can confim that i will modkill though


*edit
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:54 GMT
#1366
On May 21 2009 12:52 L wrote:
And caller, the sketchiness of what you just did is pretty fucking off the charts.

good. As if the last minute vote switching of everybody else isn't sketchy? Isn't it weird that suddenly a lot of people started voting for Ace? Isn't it weird that this sudden change is within 45 minutes before lynch closes?

Personally I don't really think either are mafia. But this sudden changing of votes has me worried.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 21 2009 03:54 GMT
#1367
That was through msn btw so dont try finding it in the thread.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 21 2009 03:55 GMT
#1368
Ok I'm just going to make the modkilling thing with Ver nice and clear:
He asked me if I would modkill him if he requested it. He pointed out that if I refused he could be a very destructive influence on this game. I don't want that. Therefore, if he were to ask me to modkill him, I would do it. However, I'm not going to make any deals or whatever. For instance, I will not agree to modkill him if he is not lynched. Take that up with Ver himself.
Uff Da
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 21 2009 03:55 GMT
#1369
Uh no. Sorry I won't buy it. Unless Qatol himself says it in this thread so thats its information accessible to all players I'm not buying anything about anyone getting modkilled.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 21 2009 03:56 GMT
#1370
On May 21 2009 12:55 Qatol wrote:
Ok I'm just going to make the modkilling thing with Ver nice and clear:
He asked me if I would modkill him if he requested it. He pointed out that if I refused he could be a very destructive influence on this game. I don't want that. Therefore, if he were to ask me to modkill him, I would do it. However, I'm not going to make any deals or whatever. For instance, I will not agree to modkill him if he is not lynched. Take that up with Ver himself.


ok so once Ver says he wants to be modkilled no matter what happens he's gone right?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 04:06:23
May 21 2009 03:56 GMT
#1371
On May 21 2009 12:54 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
Qatol says:
i can confim that i will modkill though


^^Qatol


That proves nothing other than that you asked him if he would modkill if asked to by Ver. Not that Ver will be modkilled.

Ask yourself this, also: why would Ver roleclaim Veteran if he's planning on dying anyway?

Edited by Qatol's request.
Think. :)
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 21 2009 03:57 GMT
#1372
To open the floodgates of information.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 04:04:57
May 21 2009 03:57 GMT
#1373
On May 21 2009 12:56 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:54 Incognito wrote:
Qatol says:
i can confim that i will modkill though


^^Qatol


That proves nothing other than that you asked him if he would modkill if asked to by Ver. Not that Ver will be modkilled.

Ask yourself this, also: why would Ver roleclaim Veteran if he's planning on dying anyway?


MTF don't try and talk sense into these people. Didn't you read last game?

*edited out a name
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 21 2009 03:57 GMT
#1374
Can we have an official vote tally here?
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 21 2009 03:58 GMT
#1375
On May 21 2009 12:54 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:52 L wrote:
And caller, the sketchiness of what you just did is pretty fucking off the charts.

good. As if the last minute vote switching of everybody else isn't sketchy? Isn't it weird that suddenly a lot of people started voting for Ace? Isn't it weird that this sudden change is within 45 minutes before lynch closes?

Personally I don't really think either are mafia. But this sudden changing of votes has me worried.

You're part of that sudden change of votes.

If you were suspicious of people who are on the lists voting now, we could figure out their stories with the confirmation of mafia/town post lynch of Ace and Ver and your suspicions would come to good use. We would be doing so on Day 4 with another 2 days worth of clue analysis and 2 days worth of mafia hits to give us information.

So why the fuck would you say: Yo, guys, don't fling mud, that's weird, then toss a gigantic glob of it with the intention of fucking the town out of its best bet?

I just dont' get that. I don't think i CAN get that. This is why I want to know what Ace/Ver flip. If you ARE mafia, i will be able to see you early on the Ver list. I will see your fucking retarded voting here. I will be able to examine what a mafia would do in that situation.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 21 2009 03:59 GMT
#1376
On May 21 2009 12:30 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:26 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:24 Ace wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:23 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:19 Ace wrote:
yea you just "randomly" voted for someone after less than 10 hours ago you were having pretty coherent arguments with L.

Then you call out MTF for being fishy when he's been pretty sane in his arguments thus far.

Just dont be surprised you get to sit in the derp derp section with BC and dreamflower (Ver can't sit with you he'll be dead by then)

I looked at the primary instigators of all this shit: it's mostly a back and forth between you and L. I asked you if you thought L was just retarded or traitor, and you said both, so clearly there's no need to lynch him atm. Naturally, if you flip green/blue it would've been a poor choice.

To be honest though, I doubt either of you are mafia.


which would mean you would have never voted for me if you didn't think I was mafia. Come on man, do better than that.

The very fact that you continue bringing up this controversy can lead me to only naturally assume that you are being scummy here. I don't understand why you don't simply just [i]drop it-it's a really, really stupid idea to get caught up on.


actually no, it's going to be the post I keep bringing up because you just repeated the same nonsense Ver and BC did. You say L and myself caused chaos when there was no chaos. You show up at the end of voting to cast a vote on me, but then say you randomly chose one of us.

And now you use the excuse that you're sleepy so you don't know whats going on. Ok sure.

People that deserve to die tomorrow
Ver
BC
dreamflower
Caller

People that need to be investigated tomorrow
amber[light]


I know I'm forgetting a few other names, I gotta go through my notes and put it together.
[/s]

Ah by some stroke of luck I just remembered another one:

Incognito.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
May 21 2009 04:00 GMT
#1377
All right, fine. I'm finally going to roleclaim, because I'm tired of hearing people suggesting that I should be lynched one second and then coming up with plans involving the vigi hit the next. It's been amusing, but also incredibly stressful, and I feel I could be doing not only the town but also myself some good by doing this.

I'm the one vigilante in this game.

This is why I've been quieter than usual this game, though I doubt it would necessarily have been noticeable for most. It's why I've avoided the spotlight and tried to post only when I had something truly substantial to share or when I wanted to defend myself so that I could carry out my role. Ver did correctly guess my color, but not its exact, shall we say, flavor. But then, there are twice as many medics and detectives as there are vigilantes in this game, after all.

Now, why should you believe me? Well, it would be highly risky for Mafia to ever roleclaim vigilante, even in ordinary circumstances when there are more than one. In this game, when there's only one vigilante, it becomes even more dangerous, even for the godfather. They can't run the risk of having their clues repeat, as the vigilante has only one hit and which clues show up in the Day posts aren't under their control. It's true that Mafia can kill their own members this round, but I don't think they'd want to chance that, with only six members this game. So, I'd really like to see if Mafia tries to roleclaim vigilante as well, as I'm the legitimate vigilante and they, well, would just make themselves targets.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
May 21 2009 04:00 GMT
#1378
Looks like the die is cast. Ver will be modkilled no matter what. Ace stands to be hung.

"destructive influence on the game."

I wonder what he means by that...

i would laugh very hard if Ver flips traitor from all this
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:01 GMT
#1379
On May 21 2009 12:58 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:54 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:52 L wrote:
And caller, the sketchiness of what you just did is pretty fucking off the charts.

good. As if the last minute vote switching of everybody else isn't sketchy? Isn't it weird that suddenly a lot of people started voting for Ace? Isn't it weird that this sudden change is within 45 minutes before lynch closes?

Personally I don't really think either are mafia. But this sudden changing of votes has me worried.

You're part of that sudden change of votes.

If you were suspicious of people who are on the lists voting now, we could figure out their stories with the confirmation of mafia/town post lynch of Ace and Ver and your suspicions would come to good use. We would be doing so on Day 4 with another 2 days worth of clue analysis and 2 days worth of mafia hits to give us information.

So why the fuck would you say: Yo, guys, don't fling mud, that's weird, then toss a gigantic glob of it with the intention of fucking the town out of its best bet?

I just dont' get that. I don't think i CAN get that. This is why I want to know what Ace/Ver flip. If you ARE mafia, i will be able to see you early on the Ver list. I will see your fucking retarded voting here. I will be able to examine what a mafia would do in that situation.

ha,
I wouldn't guarantee you, but I would take a bet that both Ver and Ace are innocent/traitor at the most at this time. Why would they do any of that stupid shit? I've already made this position clear made 99999999999 times.

Your entire plan rests on the idea that at least one of the two is mafia. I say neither is mafia. If you're right, we get a mafia and a vague idea of who else is mafia. If I'm right, your plan will pretty much kill us, as we'll be out both leaders, two good players, a vigi hit, and another 3 players (likely blues due to blue sniping) tomorrow.

What's a better deal?
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 21 2009 04:01 GMT
#1380
holy shit...I think dreamflower just made the biggest post of the game so far.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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