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Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.
Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow.
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On May 21 2009 12:19 MTF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:15 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:13 MTF wrote:
And with Caller's switch we have Ver & Ace tied at 11 each.
Wonder why Caller voted for me in the first place, after all. eh you were fishy along with some other people. I figured that this incredibly poor excuse for a lynching was getting pretty stupid and just randomly picked somebody I thought was fishy ^^ Why switch at all, then? What changed between then and now, ignoring the obvious changes of the time before the vote ends and the arrival of several previously quiet Ver supporters?
I'd rather not disclose the reason at this time.
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On May 21 2009 12:18 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:16 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:15 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:13 MTF wrote:
And with Caller's switch we have Ver & Ace tied at 11 each.
Wonder why Caller voted for me in the first place, after all. eh you were fishy along with some other people. I figured that this incredibly poor excuse for a lynching was getting pretty stupid and just randomly picked somebody I thought was fishy ^^ MTF fishy? ... This is a Veteran's game at least make your bullshit interesting (this goes for you too BC) consider: out of nowhere he comes out with a clue analysis that I quite frankly think is a little bit too directed. Rather than let the clues find somebody, he's finding somebody with the clues-this is always a good way to hide clues as mafia-by impaling townies as red herrings. Especially when these people are considered suspicious already by the general town.
The only person I went into the analysis thinking were suspicious out of those I listed as being possible matches was Ver, and I like to believe I can separate my bias from my analysis. Dreamflower and Infundibulum just came up.
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On May 21 2009 12:19 Ace wrote:
yea you just "randomly" voted for someone after less than 10 hours ago you were having pretty coherent arguments with L.
Then you call out MTF for being fishy when he's been pretty sane in his arguments thus far.
Just dont be surprised you get to sit in the derp derp section with BC and dreamflower (Ver can't sit with you he'll be dead by then)
I looked at the primary instigators of all this shit: it's mostly a back and forth between you and L. I asked you if you thought L was just retarded or traitor, and you said both, so clearly there's no need to lynch him atm. Naturally, if you flip green/blue it would've been a poor choice.
To be honest though, I doubt either of you are mafia.
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On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.
Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow.
how much $$ you wanna put on this?
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On May 21 2009 12:23 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:19 Ace wrote:
yea you just "randomly" voted for someone after less than 10 hours ago you were having pretty coherent arguments with L.
Then you call out MTF for being fishy when he's been pretty sane in his arguments thus far.
Just dont be surprised you get to sit in the derp derp section with BC and dreamflower (Ver can't sit with you he'll be dead by then) I looked at the primary instigators of all this shit: it's mostly a back and forth between you and L. I asked you if you thought L was just retarded or traitor, and you said both, so clearly there's no need to lynch him atm. Naturally, if you flip green/blue it would've been a poor choice. To be honest though, I doubt either of you are mafia.
which would mean you would have never voted for me if you didn't think I was mafia. Come on man, do better than that.
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Hmm...just read Ver's post...and was about to post my list of suspects here.
Malongo
Tricode
BloodyC0bbler
Ace
L
MBH
Maybe scaramanga.
Reasons:
Malongo: Been too quiet. Usually acts more stupid.
Tricode: Way too active last game when he was green. Has said like nothing this game.
BloodyC0bbler: Has some weird logic. This one's lower on my list though.
Ace: Possibly traitor. Dunno.
L: This L vs. Ace thing makes me think L is probably something....
MBH: too quiet. Also three blue deaths doesn't make him look any better. Ofc there are a lot of other potential behavior analysts out there, but MBH hasn't said too much. At all.
Finishing reading the post now...hopefully before voting ends.
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On May 21 2009 12:22 MTF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:18 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:16 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:15 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:13 MTF wrote:
And with Caller's switch we have Ver & Ace tied at 11 each.
Wonder why Caller voted for me in the first place, after all. eh you were fishy along with some other people. I figured that this incredibly poor excuse for a lynching was getting pretty stupid and just randomly picked somebody I thought was fishy ^^ MTF fishy? ... This is a Veteran's game at least make your bullshit interesting (this goes for you too BC) consider: out of nowhere he comes out with a clue analysis that I quite frankly think is a little bit too directed. Rather than let the clues find somebody, he's finding somebody with the clues-this is always a good way to hide clues as mafia-by impaling townies as red herrings. Especially when these people are considered suspicious already by the general town. The only person I went into the analysis thinking were suspicious out of those I listed as being possible matches was Ver, and I like to believe I can separate my bias from my analysis. Dreamflower and Infundibulum just came up.
That's the issue though: why is dreamflower being so accepting of your clue analysis? Doesn't it just seem weird that DF is kind of willing to take the lynch up the butt? And more importantly, if this analysis is so strong, then why isn't Infundibulum on the lynch bench?
I'm half sleep-deprived atm though, so I am probably rambling.
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On May 21 2009 12:21 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:19 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 12:15 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:13 MTF wrote:
And with Caller's switch we have Ver & Ace tied at 11 each.
Wonder why Caller voted for me in the first place, after all. eh you were fishy along with some other people. I figured that this incredibly poor excuse for a lynching was getting pretty stupid and just randomly picked somebody I thought was fishy ^^ Why switch at all, then? What changed between then and now, ignoring the obvious changes of the time before the vote ends and the arrival of several previously quiet Ver supporters? I'd rather not disclose the reason at this time.
That's a laughable argument to use. Really.
It's even moreso in that the only information that you could be wanting to innocently hide, namely that you were a DT and rolechecked either Ace or Ver, is impossible at this point in the game.
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On May 21 2009 12:24 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:23 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:19 Ace wrote:
yea you just "randomly" voted for someone after less than 10 hours ago you were having pretty coherent arguments with L.
Then you call out MTF for being fishy when he's been pretty sane in his arguments thus far.
Just dont be surprised you get to sit in the derp derp section with BC and dreamflower (Ver can't sit with you he'll be dead by then) I looked at the primary instigators of all this shit: it's mostly a back and forth between you and L. I asked you if you thought L was just retarded or traitor, and you said both, so clearly there's no need to lynch him atm. Naturally, if you flip green/blue it would've been a poor choice. To be honest though, I doubt either of you are mafia. which would mean you would have never voted for me if you didn't think I was mafia. Come on man, do better than that.
The very fact that you continue bringing up this controversy can lead me to only naturally assume that you are being scummy here. I don't understand why you don't simply just [i]drop it-it's a really, really stupid idea to get caught up on.[/s]
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On May 21 2009 12:25 MTF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:21 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:19 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 12:15 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:13 MTF wrote:
And with Caller's switch we have Ver & Ace tied at 11 each.
Wonder why Caller voted for me in the first place, after all. eh you were fishy along with some other people. I figured that this incredibly poor excuse for a lynching was getting pretty stupid and just randomly picked somebody I thought was fishy ^^ Why switch at all, then? What changed between then and now, ignoring the obvious changes of the time before the vote ends and the arrival of several previously quiet Ver supporters? I'd rather not disclose the reason at this time. That's a laughable argument to use. Really. It's even moreso in that the only information that you could be wanting to innocently hide, namely that you were a DT and rolechecked either Ace or Ver, is impossible at this point in the game.
Check PM, I think I can trust you with that much.
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On May 21 2009 12:04 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:02 L wrote:On May 21 2009 11:56 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:49 dreamflower wrote:
All right. I wasn't sure I wanted to post this, but I'd like to mention my own reason for believing Ver is innocent. Why do I think this way? Because I'm still alive.
Normally, these two things wouldn't be connected in the least. However, well before Day Two occurred, Ver contacted me through PM to say he believed I had a blue role. Specifically, he said he thought I was probably medic/DT. This alone made me think that he wasn't Mafia, because he wouldn't have bothered to PM me at all if he were; he would have just killed me. Why leave a potential victim the possibility of getting protection? Being tired and surprised, I worded my response rather regrettably in a way that probably wouldn't convince him otherwise. When Day Two dawned, I knew that if he were Mafia, I would be dead.
The fact that I didn't die, even though he had figured me out as a blue, persuaded me that Ver is innocent. Why leave a blue role alone, especially if you suspect them to be a medic or detective? Both are potentially far more valuable and devastating for the town to lose than two bodyguards, because of their inherent abilities. I'd have made a far better target than poor LucasWoJ or mikeymoo. Instead, I didn't die, even though he had figured me out as blue.
Thus, logically, he can't be Mafia. Which means he's innocent and has the town's best interests in mind, more so than the likes of Ace and L bickering and quarrelling with each other.
Here are the PMs we exchanged, if anyone wants concrete proof about the conversation.
To: Ver
Subject: Re: your mafia role
Date: 5/18/09 12:25
Ironically, I just wrote to you not thirty seconds ago. And no, no one has contacted me. The confusion over nemY has pretty much occupied everyone's minds, and I don't think I would have come to anyone's attention anyway.
What makes you think I'm a medic or DT? Or even a blue role?
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Original Message:
I think you're a medic or DT.
What do you think of the current situation? Has anyone else contacted you that's playing?
Let me get this straight (holding in laughter) Ver sends you a PM, fishing for info. He claims medic or DT (even though you have no clue about what other blues he could have known) and you think because he kept you alive - he must be innocent? ... ... So...you come with this "evidence" near the lynch deadline. Showing up with Ver and his magical pixie buddies. However - there IS one thing you just did - you just fucked Ver over. Lets read between the lines. Ver asks you if your a medic or a DT right? He didn't ask about Bodyguard?! Which would kinda mean he'd know who the Bodyguards were. And you said this occured well before Day 2 which means it happened BEFORE the bodyguards died. Good going smart guy - you just proved that Ver indeed had to know who the Bodyguards were.
BOOM! Lol, what. there's no proof of that at all. Ver could have been uninterested in finding bodyguards or already Pm'd by mikey and didn't want to hit both. More than that, look at the content of the fucking post: how would he analyse dreamflower's role if bodyguard is given after the election. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL That said, i disagree with other portions of dreamflower's post and dont' doubt there's a mafia there. That's why chopping block + day 3 already has her guillotine ready A better question is how could he possibly analyze dreamflower's posts when she barely posted anything at that point. ^_^ But yea she just jumped on the train post so I guess she's gone Day 3.
Lack of posts and the profile thread indicates a town disposition that doesn't want to be discovered. A long term blue role: Dt or medic.
I don't really give a shit about Ver's suspicions because he's going to die and we can talk about them more later, but its pretty open and shut how he'd figure shit like that out. That's how he sniped the majority of blues last game.
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On May 21 2009 11:09 MTF wrote:
O, and seeing as you're looking for voting stuff, look at the current situation:
Ver's Mayoral Voter List:
BloodyC0bbler
Caller
Scaramanga
Mynock
0cz3c
dreamflower
RebirthOfLeGenD
Vivi57
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Incognito <-- from Showtime
Malongo <-- from Ace
LucasWoJ
Ace Current Lynching List:
L
nemY
dreamflower
Amber[Light]
Bockit <-- from Ver
Plexa
BloodyC0bbler <-- from Plexa
Scaramanga <-- from Ver
Italics are overlapped. Dreamflower has only ever posted in the thread to defend herself and Scaramanga has been even more inactive, yet they both voted in Ver and are both gunning for Ace.
If Ver is Mafia and some of those who voted for him also are, and now they want to switch over to Ace, they're doing a pretty poor job of it right now.
I am a couple of pages back, but for the record.
I voted Caller.
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On May 21 2009 12:05 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:03 L wrote:On May 21 2009 12:00 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:57 L wrote:On May 21 2009 11:50 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 21 2009 11:43 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 21 2009 11:32 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:27 Showtime! wrote:
So Plexa does have a voice after all. Why do you think Ace is mafia?
As for Ver's post, I really don't know what to make of it until after the lynch.
I'm really confused as to why you would withhold this information from us for this long. Wake up!
All of us are playing bad. Oh it's simple really - the time period for lynching ends very soon. Of course Plexa, Ver and BC all pop out of no where at the same time. Ver makes some sketchy tl;dr worthy post saying he knows something but UH UH! He ain't explaining how he came to those conclusions! And we won't be able to know his explanations till after I'm dead EVEN though he said he will get himself modkilled. Oh and just to be on the safe side he claimed himself to be a Vet so you guys would be even more hesitant to kill him. Laughable really. For someone who specializes in behavioural analysis ace, the fact you dont know where it came from is amusing. You have spent the last 2 days arguing with L trying to save your own skin when your incredibly shifty, and not offer any other leads except "lynch ver, or look at these people". Instead you argue and create chaos, and hense why you've been labeled as the traitor. As for him getting modkilled/killed tommorrow, IT validates the list he just gave as hey, hes blue (once again analyze his behaviour and thats the common ground you get). I'm a bloody clue analyzer and spotted him as blue during elections. IF i can do that, you should have every blue in the game so far, but instead, your creating chaos, seems rather laughable to me as well that as i read this post of yours i see you calling the "tl:dr" comment sketchy as hey, you pulled it last round and it was legitimate. Pull your head out of your ass and accept that you die either in lynch or to a vig. What chaos? Go ahead, point it out. What chaos have I started? Your BULLSHITTING. This whole time I've been arguing with L it's been pretty normal because it's easy to follow. There is nothing "chaotic" about it. Chaos would be false roleclaiming to the town and getting innocents killed and just creating a big fucked up situation - that hasn't happened. Get your shit straight and kill the fluff posts. You spotted Ver as blue during elections? Thats nice. Really. But I'd never believe any of you are good at behavior analyzing that well because Ver has told me he's correctly analyzed me (LOL) and can't get it right this game. Sure buddy, I believe your "coalition" has things straight - RIGHT! I don't play this game to pick out the blues - I go for the reds homie. I don't need to PM a ton of people to do it either - get ya skillz up yo. I've yet to see anything out of you other than random pointing, and arguing, if your so 1337, why don't you provide some magic list of reds youve found. As for finding blues yo? You need to find either greens/blues to get a circle going but hey you know that as you typically do it everygame, except rather than work with people this game, your barking like a dog and hoping we'll listen. I've just highlighted the part of your post that will send you to the chopping block. Don't think we forgot about how you were linked to a clue before either. See you on hmm...Day 3 on that double lynch block? Yea, sounds about right. You just fucked up REALLY hard. Go check your statement and your vote today : ). I voted for Ver. Which statement are you talking about? Talking about double lynch day 3 when 1) we currently aren't going to get one by the current vote count. 2) you aren't voting for it. wtf I thought I voted for it my bad yo v_v
wtf, you fucked up again ^_^.
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On May 21 2009 12:24 Incognito wrote:
Hmm...just read Ver's post...and was about to post my list of suspects here.
Malongo
Tricode
BloodyC0bbler
Ace
L
MBH
Maybe scaramanga.
Reasons:
Malongo: Been too quiet. Usually acts more stupid.
Tricode: Way too active last game when he was green. Has said like nothing this game.
BloodyC0bbler: Has some weird logic. This one's lower on my list though.
Ace: Possibly traitor. Dunno.
L: This L vs. Ace thing makes me think L is probably something....
MBH: too quiet. Also three blue deaths doesn't make him look any better. Ofc there are a lot of other potential behavior analysts out there, but MBH hasn't said too much. At all.
Finishing reading the post now...hopefully before voting ends.
I was very active in the beginning this game. well not the first day but after that. (First day i couldn't find thread and i think i had school) My classes tues. and thursday are from 1-7:30 pm and I need to leave an hour early for school.
yesterday i wasn't feeling good. when i came back from class. i watched redwings game and went straight to sleep. Today i been playing catch up.
As far as what's being commented so far there were people i agree with and disagree with but at those times they were past posts for you guys.
Right now, i am just reading and debating on who to vote for.
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On May 21 2009 12:27 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 11:09 MTF wrote:
O, and seeing as you're looking for voting stuff, look at the current situation:
Ver's Mayoral Voter List:
BloodyC0bbler
Caller
Scaramanga
Mynock
0cz3c
dreamflower
RebirthOfLeGenD
Vivi57
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Incognito <-- from Showtime
Malongo <-- from Ace
LucasWoJ
Ace Current Lynching List:
L
nemY
dreamflower
Amber[Light]
Bockit <-- from Ver
Plexa
BloodyC0bbler <-- from Plexa
Scaramanga <-- from Ver
Italics are overlapped. Dreamflower has only ever posted in the thread to defend herself and Scaramanga has been even more inactive, yet they both voted in Ver and are both gunning for Ace.
If Ver is Mafia and some of those who voted for him also are, and now they want to switch over to Ace, they're doing a pretty poor job of it right now. I am a couple of pages back, but for the record. I voted Caller.
good man
wait this isn't for mayor
wtf
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On May 21 2009 12:26 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:24 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:23 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:19 Ace wrote:
yea you just "randomly" voted for someone after less than 10 hours ago you were having pretty coherent arguments with L.
Then you call out MTF for being fishy when he's been pretty sane in his arguments thus far.
Just dont be surprised you get to sit in the derp derp section with BC and dreamflower (Ver can't sit with you he'll be dead by then) I looked at the primary instigators of all this shit: it's mostly a back and forth between you and L. I asked you if you thought L was just retarded or traitor, and you said both, so clearly there's no need to lynch him atm. Naturally, if you flip green/blue it would've been a poor choice. To be honest though, I doubt either of you are mafia. which would mean you would have never voted for me if you didn't think I was mafia. Come on man, do better than that. The very fact that you continue bringing up this controversy can lead me to only naturally assume that you are being scummy here. I don't understand why you don't simply just [i]drop it-it's a really, really stupid idea to get caught up on. [/s]
actually no, it's going to be the post I keep bringing up because you just repeated the same nonsense Ver and BC did. You say L and myself caused chaos when there was no chaos. You show up at the end of voting to cast a vote on me, but then say you randomly chose one of us.
And now you use the excuse that you're sleepy so you don't know whats going on. Ok sure.
People that deserve to die tomorrow
Ver
BC
dreamflower
Caller
People that need to be investigated tomorrow
amber[light]
I know I'm forgetting a few other names, I gotta go through my notes and put it together.
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On May 21 2009 12:27 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:05 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:03 L wrote:On May 21 2009 12:00 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:57 L wrote:On May 21 2009 11:50 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 21 2009 11:43 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 21 2009 11:32 Ace wrote:
[quote]
Oh it's simple really - the time period for lynching ends very soon.
Of course Plexa, Ver and BC all pop out of no where at the same time.
Ver makes some sketchy tl;dr worthy post saying he knows something but UH UH! He ain't explaining how he came to those conclusions! And we won't be able to know his explanations till after I'm dead EVEN though he said he will get himself modkilled. Oh and just to be on the safe side he claimed himself to be a Vet so you guys would be even more hesitant to kill him.
Laughable really. For someone who specializes in behavioural analysis ace, the fact you dont know where it came from is amusing. You have spent the last 2 days arguing with L trying to save your own skin when your incredibly shifty, and not offer any other leads except "lynch ver, or look at these people". Instead you argue and create chaos, and hense why you've been labeled as the traitor. As for him getting modkilled/killed tommorrow, IT validates the list he just gave as hey, hes blue (once again analyze his behaviour and thats the common ground you get). I'm a bloody clue analyzer and spotted him as blue during elections. IF i can do that, you should have every blue in the game so far, but instead, your creating chaos, seems rather laughable to me as well that as i read this post of yours i see you calling the "tl:dr" comment sketchy as hey, you pulled it last round and it was legitimate. Pull your head out of your ass and accept that you die either in lynch or to a vig. What chaos? Go ahead, point it out. What chaos have I started? Your BULLSHITTING. This whole time I've been arguing with L it's been pretty normal because it's easy to follow. There is nothing "chaotic" about it. Chaos would be false roleclaiming to the town and getting innocents killed and just creating a big fucked up situation - that hasn't happened. Get your shit straight and kill the fluff posts. You spotted Ver as blue during elections? Thats nice. Really. But I'd never believe any of you are good at behavior analyzing that well because Ver has told me he's correctly analyzed me (LOL) and can't get it right this game. Sure buddy, I believe your "coalition" has things straight - RIGHT! I don't play this game to pick out the blues - I go for the reds homie. I don't need to PM a ton of people to do it either - get ya skillz up yo. I've yet to see anything out of you other than random pointing, and arguing, if your so 1337, why don't you provide some magic list of reds youve found. As for finding blues yo? You need to find either greens/blues to get a circle going but hey you know that as you typically do it everygame, except rather than work with people this game, your barking like a dog and hoping we'll listen. I've just highlighted the part of your post that will send you to the chopping block. Don't think we forgot about how you were linked to a clue before either. See you on hmm...Day 3 on that double lynch block? Yea, sounds about right. You just fucked up REALLY hard. Go check your statement and your vote today : ). I voted for Ver. Which statement are you talking about? Talking about double lynch day 3 when 1) we currently aren't going to get one by the current vote count. 2) you aren't voting for it. wtf I thought I voted for it my bad yo v_v wtf, you fucked up again ^_^.
wtf you talkin bout ^_^
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On May 21 2009 12:25 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:22 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 12:18 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:16 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:15 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:13 MTF wrote:
And with Caller's switch we have Ver & Ace tied at 11 each.
Wonder why Caller voted for me in the first place, after all. eh you were fishy along with some other people. I figured that this incredibly poor excuse for a lynching was getting pretty stupid and just randomly picked somebody I thought was fishy ^^ MTF fishy? ... This is a Veteran's game at least make your bullshit interesting (this goes for you too BC) consider: out of nowhere he comes out with a clue analysis that I quite frankly think is a little bit too directed. Rather than let the clues find somebody, he's finding somebody with the clues-this is always a good way to hide clues as mafia-by impaling townies as red herrings. Especially when these people are considered suspicious already by the general town. The only person I went into the analysis thinking were suspicious out of those I listed as being possible matches was Ver, and I like to believe I can separate my bias from my analysis. Dreamflower and Infundibulum just came up. That's the issue though: why is dreamflower being so accepting of your clue analysis? Doesn't it just seem weird that DF is kind of willing to take the lynch up the butt? And more importantly, if this analysis is so strong, then why isn't Infundibulum on the lynch bench? I'm half sleep-deprived atm though, so I am probably rambling.
She isn't accepting of it. She just took it gracefully while saying it's totally possible that I'm wrong. Which is completely possible, as I said in my analysis post. I'm not directing who others view as strong matches or not.
However, I believe the reasoning for some isn't just based on the analysis, but also on the general inactivity that she's shown and the ties to Ver.
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On May 21 2009 12:27 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:04 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:02 L wrote:On May 21 2009 11:56 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:49 dreamflower wrote:
All right. I wasn't sure I wanted to post this, but I'd like to mention my own reason for believing Ver is innocent. Why do I think this way? Because I'm still alive.
Normally, these two things wouldn't be connected in the least. However, well before Day Two occurred, Ver contacted me through PM to say he believed I had a blue role. Specifically, he said he thought I was probably medic/DT. This alone made me think that he wasn't Mafia, because he wouldn't have bothered to PM me at all if he were; he would have just killed me. Why leave a potential victim the possibility of getting protection? Being tired and surprised, I worded my response rather regrettably in a way that probably wouldn't convince him otherwise. When Day Two dawned, I knew that if he were Mafia, I would be dead.
The fact that I didn't die, even though he had figured me out as a blue, persuaded me that Ver is innocent. Why leave a blue role alone, especially if you suspect them to be a medic or detective? Both are potentially far more valuable and devastating for the town to lose than two bodyguards, because of their inherent abilities. I'd have made a far better target than poor LucasWoJ or mikeymoo. Instead, I didn't die, even though he had figured me out as blue.
Thus, logically, he can't be Mafia. Which means he's innocent and has the town's best interests in mind, more so than the likes of Ace and L bickering and quarrelling with each other.
Here are the PMs we exchanged, if anyone wants concrete proof about the conversation.
To: Ver
Subject: Re: your mafia role
Date: 5/18/09 12:25
Ironically, I just wrote to you not thirty seconds ago. And no, no one has contacted me. The confusion over nemY has pretty much occupied everyone's minds, and I don't think I would have come to anyone's attention anyway.
What makes you think I'm a medic or DT? Or even a blue role?
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Original Message:
I think you're a medic or DT.
What do you think of the current situation? Has anyone else contacted you that's playing?
Let me get this straight (holding in laughter) Ver sends you a PM, fishing for info. He claims medic or DT (even though you have no clue about what other blues he could have known) and you think because he kept you alive - he must be innocent? ... ... So...you come with this "evidence" near the lynch deadline. Showing up with Ver and his magical pixie buddies. However - there IS one thing you just did - you just fucked Ver over. Lets read between the lines. Ver asks you if your a medic or a DT right? He didn't ask about Bodyguard?! Which would kinda mean he'd know who the Bodyguards were. And you said this occured well before Day 2 which means it happened BEFORE the bodyguards died. Good going smart guy - you just proved that Ver indeed had to know who the Bodyguards were.
BOOM! Lol, what. there's no proof of that at all. Ver could have been uninterested in finding bodyguards or already Pm'd by mikey and didn't want to hit both. More than that, look at the content of the fucking post: how would he analyse dreamflower's role if bodyguard is given after the election. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL That said, i disagree with other portions of dreamflower's post and dont' doubt there's a mafia there. That's why chopping block + day 3 already has her guillotine ready A better question is how could he possibly analyze dreamflower's posts when she barely posted anything at that point. ^_^ But yea she just jumped on the train post so I guess she's gone Day 3. Lack of posts and the profile thread indicates a town disposition that doesn't want to be discovered. A long term blue role: Dt or medic. I don't really give a shit about Ver's suspicions because he's going to die and we can talk about them more later, but its pretty open and shut how he'd figure shit like that out. That's how he sniped the majority of blues last game.
come on, people can't literally be thinking "shit I'm a Dt better act shifty" - actually nevermind. I just remembered how last game went.
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